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With Israel?s operation in Rafah underway, the Benjamin Netanyahu continues to be at odds with the Biden administration. But what does the withholding of US bombs really mean for the souring relationship between the US and Israel? Noga Tarnopolsky, Alon Pinkas, and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to assess the current state of Israeli politics, and how Netanyahu continues to hold on to power. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On our Wednesday episode of the DSR daily, we cover a Russian plot to kill President Zelensky, the US pausing a weapons shipment to Israel over Rafah concerns, a grim milestone in the Myanmar conflict, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene is deciding whether to call a snap vote to oust Mike Johnson as House Speaker. She has a list of demands, and if they aren?t met, she will pull the trigger. If so, Democrats seem prepared to save Johnson. Which raises some questions: Can Democrats leverage anything in exchange for protecting Johnson? Are Greene and MAGA losing power inside the House GOP? We talked to Representative Ted Lieu, the Number 4 in the House Democratic leadership, about how Democrats should proceed?and where all this is heading next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over the past year, there have been a startling amount of misconceptions spread about artificial intelligence and its potential impacts on all corners of society. Rob Atkinson, author of the new book ?Technology Fears and Scapegoats? joins David Rothkopf to cut through the noise of AI discourse and provide a clear look at what this rapidly developing technology really means for all of us. This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Tuesday edition of the DSR Daily, we cover Israel?s seizure of a key border crossing in Rafah, Vladimir Putin?s fifth inauguration, election updates in India, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump?s hush-money trial in Manhattan has already served up some extraordinary moments. On Friday, former Trump aide Hope Hicks?s tearful testimony undermined the defense that Trump?s legal team will attempt to mount. On Monday, new evidence tied the payments to mistress Stormy Daniels tightly to Trump, and he was again held in contempt for attacking jurors, this time threatened with jail. We talked to Kim Wehle, a professor of law and former assistant U.S. attorney, about why these developments signal still more damning revelations ahead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When we think of intelligence, we most often think of state organizations like the CIA. Yet the private sector has a robust intelligence community that keeps on growing. Lewis Sage-Passant joins Marc to shine a light on the overlooked world of private intelligence, and why it has become more critical than ever. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Monday edition of the DSR daily, we discuss the Israeli military ordering an evacuation of Rafah, meetings between Emmanuel Macron and Xi Jinping in Paris, severe flooding in Kenya, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In his much-discussed Time interview, Donald Trump threatened to use the military to carry out mass deportations in a second term. The proposals he offered are appalling on their face. But beyond that, by regularly using vicious tropes about undocumented immigrants and other domestic enemies within, Trump is trying to acclimate voters to the ugliest forms of authoritarian, dehumanizing language. We talked to Maria Teresa Kumar, the president of Voto Latino, about a new effort she?s launching with other Hispanic leaders to alert voters to the grave threat Trump poses?before it?s too late. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: May 18, 2023 In a special two part series of pods, we turn to some of our favorite observers and analysts of America today to ask why we have ended up where we are, divided, with corrupted institutions, half the country seemingly committed to a path of ignorance and hate. On the first part, we discuss these issues with two of the most distinguished columnists in America, EJ Dionne and Jennifer Rubin, both of the Washington Post. It's a great, incisive, and vitally important discussion. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: May 19, 2023 In a special two part series of pods, we turn to some of our favorite observers and analysts of America today to ask why we have ended up where we are, divided, with corrupted institutions, half the country seemingly committed to a path of ignorance and hate. On this, the second in the series, we discuss these issues with one of the country's wisest and often wryest commentators, author and host of the Democracy-ish podcast, Wajahat Ali. It's a great, incisive, and vitally important discussion. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Friday edition of the DSR Daily, we discuss Turkey halting trade with Israel, UK Conservatives suffering a big defeat in local elections, China?s new lunar probe, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Unexpectedly, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been making a huge number of appearances all over right wing media of late. Trump advisers are loudly warning that this threatens to take voters from him, helping President Biden. But we?re skeptical: It?s still more likely that in the end RFK hurts Biden more than Trump. And there are cynical reasons why right wing media sources might be boosting RFK Jr. right now. We chatted with Matt Bennett, a co-founder of the Democratic group Third Way and a shrewd observer of U.S. party politics, about the true RFK effect, how RFK is functioning as a stalking horse for Trump, and what MAGA media might be doing to help along the scam. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Campus protesters have been vilified, accused of being terrorists, and attacked. But why has there been such a strong and polarized reaction to current demonstrations taking place at universities across the country? Emily Tamkin and Wajahat Ali join David Rothkopf to consider what makes this issue so divisive, and why campus protests have been a cornerstone of US politics for decades.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Thursday edition of the DSR Daily, we cover US allegations that Russia is using chemical weapons in Ukraine, the Arizona Senate striking down the 1864 abortion law, giant pandas returning to the San Diego Zoo, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new consensus is settling in among political analysts: Donald Trump?s poll numbers look unexpectedly formidable in states like Arizona and Georgia, which means President Biden?s most likely path to victory requires winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. And yet Trump will almost certainly lose if he can?t win one of those three. That?s why Democrats can stop Trump if they beat him in Wisconsin. We talked to Ben Wikler, the chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, who explains how years of painstaking organizing is laying the groundwork to defeat Trump by thwarting his designs, first and foremost, in the Badger State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is the US in a new Cold War with Russia and China? The answer is more complicated than you may think, but David Sanger?s book ?New Cold Wars? looks to provide an answer. Sanger joins David Rothkopf to explain how we got to this point in US relations with China and Russia and what makes these conflicts so new. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Siliconsciousness, a DSR Network podcast! Every week, Siliconsciousness will dive into the AI revolution, looking at key issues and politics. Executive Vice President and Director of Studies at CNAS Paul Scharre joins David Rothkopf for our inaugural episode and shares his insight into AI-powered weapons systems, frontier AI, and more.  This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Wednesday edition of the DSR Daily, we discuss the House Democrat plan to protect Speaker Johnson from being ousted, protesters clashing on UCLA?s campus, the latest on Secretary Blinken?s ceasefire negotiations, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a new interview, Donald Trump gave away the game: If he wins the White House, he?d be fine with anti-choice crackdowns in red states going to horrific extremes. Trump vowed (unconvincingly) to leave abortion to the states, but when pressed, he suggested he?d be okay with prosecutions of women who get abortions and even with states monitoring their pregnancies. In addition to revealing what Roe v. Wade?s demise has wrought, that could give Democrats a boost in this fall?s state-level elections. We talked Arizona state senator Eva Burch about how the future of reproductive rights will raise the stakes in these contests?and about her own personal and emotional experiences with the issue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There?s much to unpack with the ceasefire protests at universities across the country. From students occupying a building at Columbia to the abysmal response by USC?s administration, it is clear that there is no easy way to address the issue. Norm and Kavita break down the latest news on this contentious topic, and why it may be even more impactful than we realize.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Tuesday edition of the DSR Daily, we discuss the latest from the Columbia University protests, the ongoing ceasefire efforts by the Biden administration, an election disinformation investigation into Meta, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recently Elon Musk triggered outrage by promoting a vicious speech by a Dutch activist that pushed virulent white nationalist ideologies. Musk added that Europe is threatened by ?population collapse? that could lead to ?dead civilizations.? What often gets lost amid such controversies is that Musk is pushing ideas that are part of a genuine political movement shaped around long term demographic anxieties. We chatted with reporter Gaby Del Valle, author of a great new Politico piece about the first ever ?Natal Conference,? in Austin, Tx., and the far-right movement to get (some) people to have more babies, who helped place Musk?s talk about low birth rates in a global political context. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The House Intelligence Committee recently released a report on the investigation into reports of sexual harassment at the CIA. The findings were not pretty. So what does the agency need to do to protect women at the agency, and why has this problem persisted for so long? Christina Hillsberg joins Marc Polymeropoulos to discuss this critical issue and why the intelligence community can and must do better.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Monday edition of the DSR Daily, we discuss potential arrest warrants from the ICC for Israeli officials, the Spanish PM refusing to step down after a turbulent week, deadly flooding in Kenya, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Over the weekend, a CNN interview with former attorney general Bill Barr went viral after Barr performed a spectacular on-air capitulation to Donald Trump. The former president had posted an unhinged rant that mercilessly belittled Barr, yet Barr affirmed his endorsement of Trump and downplayed the threat he poses, including a bizarre aside about Trump talking about ?executing? rivals. We chatted with Amanda Carpenter, the prominent Never Trumper and an editor at Protect Democracy, about what this whole saga says about today?s GOP and its broader capitulation to MAGA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: May 30, 2023 This week Zoe and Natalya are joined by CEO of Reality Defender Ben Colman, to discuss the power of synthetic media and the risks it poses to geopolitics and democracy. They discuss a recent deepfake of an attack at the Pentagon, as well as potential regulatory solutions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: May 3, 2023 In this rapid fire edition of America's most entertaining foreign policy and national security podcast, the Financial Times' Ed Luce and Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks join host David Rothkopf to discuss some of the week's stranger international stories--like whether Putin launched a drone attack against himself and why someone thought it would be a good idea to have all the UK pledge allegiance to their new king as they watched his coronation on television. They also, of course, examine more serious ones like recent and seeming looming developments in Ukraine, the US-China relationship and a landmark speech on international economics delivered recently by U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan (which riffs in part on a column our own Ed wrote the week before.) Don't miss it. Join us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The relationship between China and the US is the most important in the world, and cutting through the cacophony of commentary to the heart of the matter is no easy task. Thankfully, Jon and Heather are joined by one of the leading experts on China and national security, Graham Allison. Graham shares his decades of experience to reveal why China and the US may be on a collision course ? and why there are unprecedented opportunities for cooperation.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At the Supreme Court and college campuses, leaders aren?t leading. As the court weighs incredibly consequential decisions and colleges grapple with divisive protests, we need clear leadership more than ever. Norm and Kavita discuss this unique problem and where we go from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Friday edition of the DSR Daily, we discuss Harvey Weinstein?s conviction being overturned in NY, the Supreme Court?s deliberations on Trump?s immunity claims, Secretary Blinken?s trip to Beijing, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new Politico report has exposed deep tensions between The New York Times and the White House. President Biden?s team believes The Times isn?t adequately capturing the threat Donald Trump poses to democracy, while The Times responds that Team Biden is out to micromanage the paper of record?s coverage. We think this debate is badly muddled and in need of some major clarifications. So we chatted with Substacker Brian Beutler, a frequent media critic, about today?s flawed conventions of political reporting, why they aren?t meeting the challenge of this moment, and what?s needed to change them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Thursday edition of the DSR daily, we cover the Arizona House repealing an 1864 abortion ban, Ukraine using longer-range US missiles for the first time, Rudy Giuliani and others being indicted for 2020 election interference, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Now that the House has passed military aid to Ukraine, MAGA personalities like Donald Trump Jr. and Tucker Carlson have joined Marjorie Taylor Greene in attacking House Speaker Mike Johnson as a traitor to the cause. Yet this isn?t just typical right wing ranting. It reveals very specific expectations of what Donald Trump would do to our international alliances if he wins back the White House. We talked to A.B. Stoddard, columnist at The Bulwark and author of a new piece digging into these dynamics, about what this MAGA vision for the world really looks like?and why a second Trump term would be so dangerous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker Johnson has finally done the right thing for Ukraine. In passing Ukraine aid, the self-destructive Republican Party has inflamed the war with itself. Ed Luce and David Rothkopf break down what the aid package really means for Ukraine and how the GOP?s circular firing squad will impact the party?s chances in November and beyond. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The latest in our series of Bernard L. Schwartz PolicyForum events is here. In conjunction with the New Republic, we host Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg for an insightful conversation with DSR Network CEO David Rothkopf and The New Republic Editor Michael Tomasky. Don?t miss this fascinating conversation as Secretary Buttigieg gives his unique insight into some of the greatest challenges facing our country today.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New polls this week offered something of a surprise: They show Robert F. Kennedy?s presidential run pulling more support from Donald Trump than from President Biden. And even some Republicans are publicly insisting that they fear the same. One person who is deeply skeptical of this reading is veteran Democratic strategist and podcaster Joe Trippi. We chatted with Trippi about his grand theory of the election, why he thinks the only threat RFK poses is to Biden, and how Trump and Republicans are attempting to disguise all of it with a clever bait-and-switch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we discuss Israeli troops amassing near the Gaza Strip, new accusations from prosecutors in Trump?s hush money trial, mass arrests in US campus protests, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Now that Mike Johnson allowed Ukraine aid to pass the House on a broad bipartisan basis, an enraged Marjorie Taylor Greene is ramping up her threats to oust the Speaker. But a funny thing has happened: For many reasons, Greene?s efforts could end up accomplishing little for the MAGA right, even as they do more to endanger GOP control of the House. We chatted with Democratic Representative Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania, a shrewd observer of all these dynamics, about the possibilities of more coalition governing, the future of MAGA in the House, and the threat posed by the ticking time bomb otherwise known as MTG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With conflicts raging in Ukraine, Gaza, and beyond, the job of covering conflict and national security is more important than ever. But how do journalists provide accurate and reliable coverage? CNN national security correspondent Kylie Atwood joins Marc Polymeropoulos to discuss the unique challenges our current national security climate and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the Monday edition of the DSR Daily, we cover the House finally passing an aid bill for Ukraine, the head of the IDF?s intelligence department?s resignation, the Supreme Court reviewing anti-camping laws, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, arguments begin in Donald Trump?s hush money trial in Manhattan, and he?s raging over the unfairness of it all. Amazingly, some are rushing to insist the trial won?t pose a serious problem for his presidential chances. But progressive political strategist Anat Shenker-Osorio disagrees: She writes in a new piece for Slate that due to some hidden public opinion dynamics, the case is already damaging him. So we chatted with Shenker-Osorio about why the trial and Trump?s impulsive conduct at it is so alienating to voters outside the MAGA bubble?and why this dynamic will only get worse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: June 16, 2023 The lies and deflections from Republicans defending Trump have spun up the ire of "Words Matter" co-host Norm Ornstein. So in this episode he not only explains why but guest co-host David Rothkopf tries unsuccessfully to defuse his anger. Instead, both recount the facts surrounding the case for which Trump was arraigned this week and the likely cases to come and frankly, the outrage only grows. Join them to understand why it is fully justified. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Original Air Date: March 15, 2023 There is never a dull period for the Middle East. David and Rosa are joined by Alon Pinkas of Haaretz to discuss Iran and Saudi Arabia resuming diplomatic ties and the ongoing crisis in Israel. Do we anticipate big changes in the Middle East following this announcement? What does this say about America's role in the region? Is Israel in an (unwritten) constitutional crisis? All of this and more during this thoughtful discussion. Members get a bonus segment where David and Kim Ghattas, author of Black Wave, continue the conversation about the Saudi-Iran relationship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In launching over 300 drones and missiles at Israel, Iran has revealed a lot about not only its own arsenal, but the effectiveness of missile defense. So what can the international and defense communities learn? Experts Ankit Panda and Tom Karako join Jon to share the key takeaways from the attack and what it means for the future of defense.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The House is its own special kind of crazy, but the Senate is no slouch either. Tom Cotton?s recent comments calling for Americans to ?take matters into their own hands? in response to protests reminds us that Senators can seemingly call for acts of violence and get away with it. Norm and Kavita break down the fall of accountability in the Senate and why some Senators continue to embarrass the institution.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At a fundraiser with oil and gas industry executives last week, Donald Trump reportedly ranted angrily about, of all things, wind power. ?I hate wind,? Trump told the executives. That may seem like a joke, but it gets at a deadly serious topic: If Trump wins this fall, he?d very likely try to repeal President Biden?s climate policies. We chatted with David Roberts, author of a great energy Substack called ?Volts,? about Trump?s prospects for success at that project, about its potential consequences for the world, and about an intriguing concept known as ?petro-masculinity.? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the tumult in Israel and Ukraine to widespread challenges across Africa, the world is at a turning point. Senator Chris Coons, a leading voice in the US Senate on international affairs, joins David Rothkopf on a special episode of DSR to share his perspective on the most critical foreign policy issues today.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our Sources for Today's Episode: 1:02: AP News: House?s Ukraine, Israel aid package gains Biden?s support as Speaker Johnson fights to keep his job President Joe Biden expressed strong support for House Speaker Mike Johnson's proposal to approve $95 billion in aid for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, highlighting a bipartisan push amid political tensions. 2:01: Washington Post: Red states threaten librarians with prison ? as blue states work to protect them Sam Lee, a leader of the Connecticut Library Association, finds herself conflicted as she heads to work amidst a nationwide increase in book challenges. 3:24: Al Jazeera: Hezbollah launches missiles and drones at northern Israel Hezbollah has claimed responsibility for an attack on a new military reconnaissance command center in Arab al-Aramshe, Israel, which wounded at least 14 Israeli soldiers, in retaliation for Israeli strikes that killed Hezbollah members. 4:24: BBC: Ukraine warns of WW3 ahead of long-stalled Congress aid vote Ukraine's Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, in an interview with the BBC in Washington DC, expressed cautious optimism about the U.S. Congress passing a crucial foreign aid bill that includes $61 billion earmarked for Ukraine. 5:20: Straits Times: Thousands evacuated as Indonesia volcano erupts, causes tsunami threat and airport closure Indonesian rescuers urgently evacuated thousands of people on April 18 after Mount Ruang erupted five times in two days, prompting authorities to raise its alert level to the highest and shut down the nearest international airport in Manado city. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kari Lake, a diehard MAGA Republican who?s running for Senate in Arizona, told a rally this week that it?s time for supporters of her and Donald Trump to ?put on the armor of God and maybe strap on a Glock just in case.? There you have it: God and Glock, side by side. We talked to Elizabeth Neumann, a Homeland Security counterterrorism official during Trump?s presidency and author of a new book about Christian extremism, about how MAGA rhetoric normalizes political violence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices