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Sometimes the very strategies meant to help children have the opposite effect. Join AEI’s Naomi Schaefer Riley and Ian Rowe as they look behind the headlines at the public policies and cultural agendas driving child welfare and education. Rowe and Riley bring to light practices that will make you ask, “Are you kidding me?”
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What will a new administration in Washington mean for American children, particularly the most vulnerable?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Lynn Johnson, founder of All In Fostering Futures and former Assistant Secretary of the Administration for Children and Families (ACF) during the first Trump administration. Lynn explores the federal government's role in influencing child welfare at the state level and highlights how reducing regulations and compliance burdens can enable child welfare workers to focus more on serving children and families directly.
She reflects on ACF’s focus during the first Trump administration, particularly its efforts to prioritize permanency in order to improve long-term outcomes for children in foster care. Lynn also discusses the need to revisit certain policies around kinship care introduced during the Biden administration. She also argues that some of the Biden administration’s rules limited state governments’ ability to collaborate with faith-based organizations to support foster children. Finally, she underscores the importance of interagency efforts to promote stable families and prevent children from entering the foster system altogether.
Resources
• How Churches Can Make a Difference in the Lives of Children Who Need Foster Care | Naomi Schaefer Riley
• New White House Proposal to Further Alienate Religious Foster Parents | Naomi Schaefer Riley
• The Privilege Hiding in Plain Sight | Ian Rowe
Show Notes
• 00:47 | What were the child welfare priorities of the first Trump administration, and how much influence does the federal government have over policies regarding children and families?
• 02:20 | Is there a parallel between the Administration for Children and Families and the Department of Education, in terms of their ability to influence state and local policy?
• 04:40 | What steps did you take in your role during the first Trump administration, and what steps should be taken now that will get us closer to positive impact?
• 10:00 | What can the federal government do that states cannot do to support a child who has experienced extreme instability and a high number of placements in the foster system?
• 11:59 | What have the last four years looked like for child welfare under the Biden administration?
• 19:31 | The Biden administration worked to implement certain requirements for foster care organizations regarding LGBTQ+ children, which could have negative impact on faith-based agencies. How should the next administration approach this issue?
• 24:47 | How much should the federal government focus on prevention when it comes to child welfare issues?
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, in her dissent on the Supreme Court’s ruling on affirmative action in 2023, cited a study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) concluding that black infants are more likely to survive if they are cared for by black doctors than white doctors. But a recent study using the same data suggests that race was not the real factor.
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by George J. Borjas, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School, to discuss his recent paper co-authored with Robert VerBruggen, “Do Black Newborns Fare Better with Black Doctors? The Limits of Measuring Racial Concordance.” Originally part of a project analyzing the fragility of empirical findings in social science, George’s study reanalyzes the same data used in the PNAS study to see whether the same result emerged. He and VerBruggen found that if the data is adjusted for low birthweight, the correlation between race of the doctor and infant survival disappeared. Their research has now been published by the National Academy of Sciences. George discusses how the narrative about the original study persists even when new data has called it into question.
Resources
● Do Black Newborns Fare Better with Black Doctors? The Limits of Measuring Racial Concordance | George J. Borjas and Robert VerBruggen
● Are Black Newborns More Likely to Survive with Black Doctors? | George J. Borjas and Robert VerBruggen
Show Notes
● 00:47 | How did you become interested in the topic of mortality rates among black newborns? What did you find in your study?
● 05:50 | Why did your study find different results using the same data as the earlier one?
● 07:57 | Why did the original authors not include low birthweight as a factor in their study?
● 08:48 | What did you find about the distribution of doctors to women whose infants had low birthweight?
● 11:01 | Have you shared this new finding with the original authors of the study?
● 13:35 | Given that low birthweight is a universally accepted factor in infant mortality, are you surprised that the original result that black infants do better when they are matched with black doctors was so widely accepted?
● 17:17 | Has your study received the same kind of attention as the original study?
● 18:40 | Can we empirically answer the question of whether the specialties of doctors and their respective races is the driver of better results for black infants, rather than just the race itself?
How do we combat historically low fertility rates? While having fewer children has been correlated with higher rates of education among women, a significant group of highly educated women are still choosing to have big families. What is different about these women, and what can they teach us about the nature of parenthood and the importance of children?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Catherine Pakaluk, economist and associate professor at The Catholic University of America, to discuss her recent book, Hannah’s Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth. In researching her book, Dr. Pakaluk interviewed women with a college education who also have five or more children with their current spouse. The vast majority of mothers she spoke with viewed raising children as their first priority. This was true of their husbands as well. Work and career were the secondary goals that supported their ability to be parents. These mothers also viewed motherhood through the lens of their faith, whether Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, or Jewish. They shared the belief that children are blessings from God. Dr. Pakaluk discusses the number of unintended, “spillover” benefits she observed among these families, such as increased independence in their children and a less materialistic approach to life, as well as what the implications of her research could be for public policy.
Resources
-Hannah’s Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth | Catherine Pakaluk
-What Happens When Every Aspect of Parenting Is a Choice? | Naomi Schaefer Riley
Time Stamps
-00:37 | Why did you decide to begin this research?
-02:30 | What were the criteria for the women included in your study?
-04:44 | What were these women like, and what was the motive behind their choices to have large families?
-09:20 | How do we shift the conversation around the declining birth rate from technical interventions to the deeper themes you are talking about?
-13:13 | How do these women think about their choices with regard to their career? Did they make the choice from a very early age, and how did their decisions fit in with their husbands’ decisions?
-17:57 | How do you reconcile the strong role religion plays in the lives of these women with the rising secularism of young people we are seeing today?
-20:50 | How does the religious atmosphere in these families affect their view on material things? What are the other unintended benefits of having large families?
Much like other governmental agencies, child welfare systems are long overdue for a digital upgrade. But how can we ensure the technological tools implemented truly equip caseworkers and supervisors to meet the needs of children and families?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Sixto Cancel, the founder and CEO of Think of Us, a tech nonprofit working to reform the child welfare system in the US. Inspired by his own story in foster care, where one, outdated sentence in his case file determined the trajectory of his time in the system, Sixto founded Think of Us to improve the tech landscape of the foster care system. From the need to incorporate assistive AI into case management to improving federal incentives to encourage innovation, Sixto discusses the key areas in need of reform.
Resources
• Taking Child Welfare into the 21st Century | Naomi Schaefer Riley, Ian Rowe, and Greg McKay
• Big Data Can Save Kids | Naomi Schaefer Riley
• Think of Us | Sixto Cancel
Show Notes
• 00:52 | What is the technology landscape of child welfare, and are the systems being used up to date?
• 03:07 | What is the origin of your name, Sixto Cancel?
• 04:06 | What about your story led you down this path to work toward better experiences for youth in foster care?
• 06:38 | What could systems be doing differently to take into account all of the options for foster youth?
• 09:28 | How are you now using virtual support services for youth getting ready to age out of the system?
• 12:15 | Many child welfare agencies contract with different providers to meet their needs. How is this currently working, and could it be more efficient?
• 15:32 | Why was the federal funding you secured ineffective to upgrade the technology systems within child welfare agencies?
• 17:08 | What would be the better approach? Should the federal government still be involved, or would that run the same risk of having just one large entity dominating the space and discouraging innovation?
• 20:05 | Are you planning to expand the direct service component of your organization?
• 21:22 | Thinking about the data you’ve collected so far, what would say is the biggest mismatch between what people need and what is being offered to them?
Because of the Family First Prevention Services Act passed in 2017, residential care facilities, or “group homes,” for foster youth have lost significant funding—leading to the closure of many residential treatment options. Many advocates of the policy believe that placement with families are always the best option for kids. But what about the numerous foster youth who report immense benefits from their time in residential care?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Bruce Henderson, a former professor of psychology at Western Carolina University for over 40 years. Drawing on his background in child psychology, Bruce conducted a comprehensive review of the research on residential care facilities to understand how time spent in these homes affects foster youth. This research led to the publishing of his recent book, Challenging the Conventional Wisdom about Residential Care for Children and Youth. In this episode, Bruce explains the findings of his research and why he believes residential care must continue to be supported as an option for foster youth. Lastly, he shares a way to support The Black Mountain Home for Children and Families, a very impactful residential care home for foster youth in Black Mountain, North Carolina, that has suffered significant damage from Hurricane Helene. We encourage our listeners to give as they are able.
Resources
• Challenging the Conventional Wisdom about Residential Care for Children and Youth | Bruce B. Henderson
• A Critical Dialogue on Residential Care for Children and Youth: What We Really Know and Questions of Quality | Bruce B. Henderson and James P. Anglin
• Why Foster Children Are Sleeping in Offices and What We Can Do About It | Naomi Schaefer Riley et al.
Show Notes
• 00:54 | What motivated your interest in this research topic?
• 02:32 | What is the Family First Prevention Services Act?
• 05:44 | Why does residential care carry so much stigma today?
• 07:09 | What were your findings when you looked at residential care facilities in other countries?
• 09:06 | Is there a version of Family First that you would have supported?
• 10:51 | What are the circumstances that make it possible for residential care to have a positive impact on a child’s life?
• 13:17 | Do attitudes around race play a role in the policy conversation around residential care?
• 13:51 | How do you make appropriate comparisons when you look at this research and what studies have you found helpful when evaluating the effects of residential care on foster youth?
• 17:14 | Does research show if the type of organization plays a role in the success of the residential home (i.e., faith-based, etc.)?
• 18:21 | Do you envision a situation where we start to rethink whether we can really do without residential care? Can we go back?
• 21:06 | Where does the financing come from for these facilities and programs?
• 24:10 | How to Help The Black Mountain Home for Children and Families
Technological innovations are often sold to the public as ways to make life easier. But what if the increasing prevalence of technology in our lives is actually crowding out human experiences that are integral to children’s development and well-being?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by AEI Senior Fellow Christine Rosen to discuss her new book, The Extinction of Experience. Christine argues that the unmitigated push to integrate technology into all areas of life can be particularly harmful for children, who could be missing out on fundamental human experiences that help them grow. She highlights how even simple practices like learning cursive, or more significant milestones like dating—without the medium of screens—play a fundamental role in shaping who children become as adults. Contrary to tech moguls like Elon Musk who want to form new human communities on other planets, Christine believes we have a responsibility to find solutions that make life on earth a good one for children. Making the active choice to cut out technology from certain areas of our lives could be a good place to start.
Resources
• The Extinction of Experience: Being Human in a Disembodied World | Christine Rosen
• The Lost Art of Waiting | Christine Rosen
• Katharine Birbalsingh on Banning Smartphones from Schools | Naomi Schaefer Riley, Ian Rowe, and Katharine Birbalsingh
Show Notes:
• 01:13 | When did you first start noticing the negative impacts screens were having on kids?
• 03:11 | Does it bring you some comfort that there is a growing movement to remove cell phones from schools?
• 05:14 | What are some of the individual experiences we are losing because of technology? Are there some experiences that are alright to replace?
• 08:00 | How has technology affected dating and the romantic lives of young people?
• 10:03 | Can we recapture the tradition of having ‘forced’ human interaction in spaces like churches, schools, and homes?
• 12:36 | What can you tell us about the individuals and companies who are making these technologies?
• 15:19 | Figures like Elon Musk have resorted to colonizing new planets as a solution to some of our human problems. Is this the right response? How would you respond?
• 18:08 | What are the chances that a child who has been raised with so much technology will be able to dig themselves out of this?
• 20:55 | Is there a role for faith and religious institutions in all of this?
When parents perpetuate abuse against their children, it is all too likely that they themselves were also victims of abuse. Children who have experienced maltreatment face significant barriers to flourishing when they reach adulthood, but with support and the right tools, it is possible for individuals to make different choices and break the cycle of abuse in their family.
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Savannah Nelson, an undergraduate student at BYU-Idaho and recent author of an op-ed for the Institute for Family Studies, “Ending the Cycle of Intergenerational Child Abuse.” Savannah discusses her personal connection to the topic, sharing how her mother overcame the abuse she endured from her parents and was able to make a different choice when starting her own family. She also shares what she has learned from her research, including how forming strong marriages is associated with lower risk of abuse, and how marriage and family education can be an effective tool for equipping parents to create healthy relationships with each other and with their children.
Resources
-Ending the Cycle of Intergenerational Child Abuse | Savannah Nelson and Timothy Rarick
-Married Fatherhood | Ian Rowe
Show Notes
-00:52 | How did you come to write about this topic?
-03:03 | What does it mean to be a “transitional character”?
-04:24 | What kind of process must an individual go through in order to become a transitional character?
-05:57 | How must a child make the choice to make a change even when the change hasn’t been modeled for them?
-07:17 | How can we help children who have experienced abuse feel confident that they are able to form healthier relationships in their own life?
-09:37 | What role does marriage play in breaking the cycle of abuse, and what do you think of the fact that more and more young people are not considering marriage or children within marriage as part of their future?
-12:26 | What resources are available through churches and religious communities to educate individuals on ending the cycle of abuse? Is this topic incorporated into family and marriage education in the context of the LDS church?
Concerns about a mental health crisis among young people have produced broad initiatives to improve overall mental well-being or “prevent” mental illness. But what evidence do we have that these programs are producing desirable outcomes?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Carolyn Gorman, the Paulson Policy Analyst at the Manhattan Institute. In a new report to be released on September 12, Carolyn examines whether school-based mental health initiatives are useful for combatting mental health issues among kids. She explains that, in many cases, the continued effort to broadly incorporate mental health treatment, awareness, and “prevention” programs into school systems do more harm than good. In light of the recent Georgia school shooting, the current conversation around mental health continues to be a pressing one. However, as Carolyn notes, policies targeted specifically toward individuals with severe mental health disorders are more likely to affect change than broad funding for mental health awareness and prevention.
Resources
-A Better Youth Mental Health Policy | Carolyn D. Gorman and Scott Dziengelski
-Senate Gun Bill Includes Solid Mental Health Policies—But Must Focus on Serious Mental
Illness | Carolyn D. Gorman
Show Notes
Policymakers, researchers, and activists in the child welfare field frequently point to racial disparities within the system, as evidence of the systemic bias. But what are the true causes of these disparities? And how should governmental bodies tasked with protecting civil rights understand this issue?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Rafael Mangual, Nick Ohnell Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, to discuss his recent resignation from the New York State Advisory Committee to the US Commission on Civil Rights after it conducted an investigation of racial disparities in the child welfare system. Rafael discusses the report published by the committee, which includes recommendations that would significantly diminish the power of the child welfare system. He includes data from his own research that challenges the findings of the committee and expresses concern that other state committees are going to engage in the same kind of work that is thin on evidence and heavy on ideology.
Resources
-Kids In Jeopardy | Rafael Mangual
-The Radical Push to Dismantle Child Protective Services | Naomi Schaefer Riley and Rafael Mangual
-Advisory Committees | US Commission on Civil Rights
Show Notes
04:00 What are the disparities in the child welfare system, and what are the potential explanations for them? How did the committee go about gathering information to answer that question?
11:30 How do committee members respond when alternative data is presented that suggests other causes for disparities besides systemic racism?
20:48 How would you respond to the claim that cash payments to families involved in child welfare will effectively address issues of abuse or neglect, and what do activists believe will be accomplished by this idea?
In 1996, Rev. W.C. Martin and his wife partnered with 22 families in their 100-person congregation to adopt 77 of the most difficult-to-place children in the Texas foster care system. A recent film, Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot, tells the stories of these families and the inspiring results of their efforts.
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Joe Knittig, CEO of Care Portal and executive producer of Possum Trot. As leader of an organization designed to connect caretakers and resources in local communities to children in need, Joe was already well-versed in bringing communities together to support vulnerable kids. As executive producer of Possum Trot he hopes to broaden these efforts, encouraging faith communities across the nation to step up for kids in foster care.
Resources
-Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot | Angel Studios
-How Churches Can Make a Difference in the Lives of Children Who Need Foster Care | Naomi Schaefer Riley
Show Notes
-00:40 | Tell us about your background and how it led to your involvement in the film?
-02:15 | How does Care Portal connect caretakers with children in need?
-05:49 | What is the story behind the Possum Trot? What are you hoping to accomplish through the film?
-08:03 | When the Martin family approached the state about adopting the most difficult-to-place children, what was the initial response?
-10:20 | The story of Possum Trot takes place in a historically black church community. How does this story contribute to the conversation around race in the child welfare system?
-13:55 | How could the film catalyze churches and faith-based organizations to become more involved in child welfare and the foster care system?
-16:17 | The film highlights the real struggles of fostering children. Is that part of the story resonating with audiences?
-19:04 | How can listeners see the film?
-20:18 | You are showing screenings of the film in church communities—what impact are you seeing?
-21:48 | How are the original families doing?
As the school choice movement has gained momentum in recent years, parents have become a political force to be reckoned with.
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Corey DeAngelis, senior fellow at the American Federation for Children and a visiting fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, to discuss his recent book, The Parent Revolution: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining Our Schools. The book highlights the key contributors to school choice’s spread across the country, the wealth of research on ways educational freedom benefits all children, and what is required to continue to advance educational freedom in the US. In this episode, Corey explains the important role of parents in the fight for school choice—particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic—the benefits of school choice for low-income communities, and the ongoing political shift towards school choice at the local, state, and federal levels.
Resources
-The Parent Revolution: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining Our Schools | Corey DeAngelis
-Why We Must Eliminate Barriers to School Choice Nationwide | Ian Rowe
-‘The Death of Public School’ Review: Find a Place to Learn | Naomi Schaefer Riley
-When Parents Do Know Best: Darla Romfo on the Viability of School Choice Programs | Naomi Schaefer Riley and Ian Rowe
Show Notes
-0:00:45 | What was your purpose in writing the book?
-0:03:24 | How did school closures and parents’ awareness of course content during the COVID-19 pandemic accelerate the school choice movement?
-0:07:13 | What does research reveal about the impact of school choice on upward mobility, and are “school choice alliances” growing in low-income communities?
-0:10:10 | Should school choice waivers apply to all institutions, or should there be limitations?
-0:14:08 | Which states are the “next frontiers” for school choice?
-0:16:57 | How does school choice help ensure high quality education options?
-0:20:36 | Would abolishing the Department of Education benefit or harm school choice?
The country’s youth mental health crisis continues to increase demand for psychiatric beds. Yet, the availability of residential treatment facilities, reserved for youth with severe emotional disturbances, is on the decline. What impact does this have on youth—including those in foster care--with high levels of need, and how do we ensure access to treatment for the children who need it most?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Scott Dziengelski, a consultant at King and Spalding LLP and former director of policy and regulatory affairs at the National Association for Behavioral Healthcare, to discuss his recent report, “Deinstitutionalization Redux: The Decline in Residential Mental Health Treatment for Youth.” The report highlights the concerning shortage of residential treatment facilities and bed space for youth who need care. In this episode, Scott explains the current move toward deinstitutionalization, the effect of negative media messaging around residential treatment centers, and the crucial policy and cultural changes needed to ensure youth with severe challenges receive the care they need.
Resources
-Deinstitutionalization Redux: The Decline in Residential Mental Health Treatment for Youth | Scott Dziengelski
-How Foster Kids Are Being Damaged by a Lack of Home Care Facilities | Naomi Schaefer Riley
-Why Foster Children Are Sleeping in Offices and What We Can Do About It | Sean Hughes et al.
Show Notes
-00:58 | How did you get involved in children’s mental health policy?
-02:20 | What does the spectrum of need look like for children’s mental health, and which children are served by residential treatment facilities?
-05:26 | How do you interpret the data around the rise in children’s mental health challenges?
-07:34 | What led to the decrease in availability of residential treatment facilities?
-10:34 | Why are people advocating for the deinstitutionalization of residential treatment facilities?
-13:23 | Two congressional hearings on residential treatment recently took place. What impact will these have on the availability of residential treatment?
-16:55 | How does tying educational funds to children help when residential treatment is needed?
-21:18 | What is your recommendation on Medicaid dollars following children in care? How do we shift the narrative on residential treatment facilities?
-25:37 | Which states are doing the best in regard to residential treatment facilities?
The dramatic rise in substance use disorders over the past decade has altered—indeed, destroyed—many American lives, but how does this epidemic affect children? And who is ensuring their safety?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Sarah Font, child welfare researcher and associate professor of sociology and public policy at Penn State, to discuss a recent published statement Sarah wrote on behalf of AEI’s child welfare working group. “The US Is Failing Substance-Exposed Infants” critiques policies which limit Child Protective Services’ responsibility to aid substance-exposed infants, and how voluntary “Plans of Safe Care” put in place by some states are insufficient to address the dilemma. In this episode, Sarah details the effects of drug exposure in infants, whether and how positive toxicology screens in new mothers and infants are reported, and what practices in medicine and child protection need to change in order to prioritize the well-being of children.
Resources
-The US Is Failing Substance-Exposed Infants | Sarah Font et al.
-The US Is Failing Infants Exposed to Drugs and Alcohol | Naomi Schaefer Riley and Sarah Font
Show Notes
-0:01:00 | How should we understand drug exposure among infants?
-0:01:34 | What are the dangers to children of substance exposure in utero and when a child is under the supervision of parents who are addicted?
-0:03:28 | Why is there a reduction in foster care placements when there is an increase in reported abuse?
-0:04:44 | What are plans of safe care intended to accomplish?
-0:06:29 | What was the rationale behind Mass General Brigham’s new policy on substance abuse reporting?
-0:09:16 | How have we lost our focus regarding the effects of drug policy on children?
-0:11:44 | Is the normalization of drug use working as a gateway to children’s drug exposure?
-0:13:34 | What are some policy changes that should be considered by states and medical institutions?
-0:16:11 | What states or localities can we point to as models for others to follow?
-0:16:57 | What happens when hospitals contact CPS?
-0:19:00 | What prevention strategies exist?
How has the Supreme Court’s decision on Dobbs v. Jackson affected foster care and adoption in the United States during the past two years?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Herbie Newell, President & Executive Director of Lifeline Children’s Services, one of the largest adoption agencies in the United States. Herbie discusses how the recent limits on abortion access in some states have impacted adoption agencies. He highlights the cultural shifts that have emerged since the Dobbs decision, including the decreased stigma surrounding adoption. He also addresses the slight increase in foster care numbers following the ruling, and how to interpret it, as well as how we can create a more positive outlook on adoption as an option for mothers, fathers, and children in the United States.
Resources
-Doing Adoption the “Right” Way Can Work for Everyone Involved | Naomi Schaefer Riley
-Elizabeth Kirk on Adoption Post Dobbs | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Ian Rowe
-What is it Like to Place Your Child For Adoption | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Timothy P. Carney
Show Notes
-0:00:57 | How has the atmosphere around adoption changed post Dobbs?
-0:03:59 | How has the view of adoption shifted in the pro-life community?
-0:06:31 | Has there been an increase in foster care post-Dobbs?
-0:09:44 | How should we think about adoption as an option for mothers and how can we reduce the stigma women choosing adoption face?
-0:13:20 | What pressures might women feel in the adoption process? How do we address them?
-0:18:23 | Does adoption stigma drive single-mother households? How do we better involve men throughout the adoption process?
The steep increase in mental health challenges among young children is one of today’s most widely discussed issues. But why is so little attention paid to the role of family dynamics in creating or reducing stress for kids?
This week, Ian and Naomi are joined by Dr. Nicholas Zill, research psychologist and senior fellow at the Institute for Family Studies, to discuss his most recent report, “Families Matter to Kids’ Mental Health.” In the report, Dr. Zill analyzes data from the National Survey on Children’s Health to demonstrate how family structure affects not only the likelihood children will need mental health services, but also whether they will receive them. He points out a number of striking findings, including how foster children are the group most likely to be using medication to treat mental health problems. Dr. Zill emphasizes how understanding a child’s family structure is vital to treating their mental health, and how other methods of combatting mental illness beyond medication should be employed as well.
Resources
-Families Matter to Kids’ Mental Health | Nicholas Zill
-Why Foster Kids Aren’t Getting the Mental Health Care They Need | Naomi Schaefer Riley
Show Notes
-00:44 | Why does family structure get missed in the conversation about kids’ mental health?
-08:25 | Why does the gap between the need and receipt of mental health services come from? How can we close that gap?
-11:48 | How do we share this data without seeming like we are blaming families for their impact on a child’s mental health?
-13:08 | How do we make sure we are talking about the youth mental health crisis in an accurate, right-sized way?
-16:46 | Do younger generations having different attitudes toward marriage and forming families?
-18:29 | What is the good news on this issue?
-21:23 | How can we encourage reporting of data on family structure?
Conventional wisdom suggests that developing a child’s intellect is the job of schools, but parents spend far more time with their kids than teachers do. There is a lot that parents can and should do on this front.
This week, Naomi is joined by Eva Moskowitz, founder and CEO of Success Academy Charter Schools in New York City, and author of the recent book, A+ Parenting: The Surprisingly Fun Guide to Raising Surprisingly Smart Kids. Eva discusses how many parents feel an obligation to come down to their child’s level when it comes to speech or play, but in fact, their child may benefit more from being included in the complex or stimulating discussions and activities that parents are already enjoying. From movies, to games, to music played in the car, Eva has curated a list of materials and activities that are both age-appropriate and intellectually challenging for kids. What is important, Eva argues, is for parents to enjoy time with their kids, as this creates greater satisfaction for children, too.
Resources
-A+ Parenting: The Surprisingly Fun Guide to Raising Surprisingly Smart Kids | Eva Moskowitz
-Teach Your Children Well | Naomi Schaefer Riley
Show Notes
-00:55 | What inspired you to write this book?
-03:27 | How should parents work to develop their child’s intellect differently than schools?
-06:16 | How does this guidance translate across class divides? Are you hoping to bridge the gap between parents who are familiar with these cultural staples and those who aren’t?
-09:57 | Why does the specific book a child reads matter beyond just the fact that they are reading at all?
-11:59 | Can you give an example of the type of movie that is worthwhile for kids to watch, and why?
-15:46 | How do you know when these activities are appropriate, or if too much is going over the child’s head?
-18:08 | What are your thoughts on the impact of cellphones and social media on children’s intellectual development?
-21:08 | How can we engage in parenting in a way that helps us find more of the joy in the process?
Why do some members of the “elite class”—those who are educated, wealthy, and largely raised in stable, two-parent homes—publicly advocate for harmful beliefs while not subscribing to them in their private lives?
This week marks Are You Kidding Me?’s 100th episode! For this special episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Rob Henderson, psychologist and author of the recent book Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class. Having experienced an unstable childhood in the foster care system before then enlisting in the military and going on to complete a PhD in psychology, Rob observed a phenomenon among American elites he eventually coined as “luxury beliefs.” Luxury beliefs are held ideas that confer status to the wealthy while inflicting harm on the poor and working class. Rob discusses where he believes this phenomenon originated, the practical impact it has for low-income communities, and how he tries to reverse the trend through sharing data and encouraging people to think more deeply about the ideas they are espousing.
Resources
Show Notes
01:05 | Can you talk about your background with the foster care system, and what the biggest influence in your early years was on your thinking later in life?
02:59 | What was the pivot for you that allowed you to find success and eventually write your book?
09:56 | Why are members of the “elite class” so predisposed to express certain beliefs in public but not hold to them in their private lives?
15:04 | How does the act of holding luxury beliefs by the elite class impact members of the working class?
18:45 | Can you talk about the luxury belief dynamic as it plays out with drug use, and how is that dynamic playing out in families?
23:52 | Are you finding that some of the ideas you express in your book are being made by others into their own kinds of luxury beliefs?
26:57 | How do we confront luxury beliefs in such a way that we can reverse the impact they are having on low income communities?
The “Success Sequence” refers to a series of steps—graduating high school, working full-time, and marrying before having children—that are shown to dramatically decrease one’s likelihood of living in poverty. But what happens if, for a variety of reasons, these steps are completed out of order?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Angela Rachidi, a senior fellow at AEI focusing on poverty and the effects of federal safety-net programs on low-income individuals and families. Angela discusses her recent report, which examines how completing certain “success sequence” steps (namely, graduating high school, finding full-time work, and getting married) can impact poverty rates for unmarried mothers. Angela explains the immense economic burden and reduced odds of escaping poverty faced by those who have children before marriage or completing their education, especially when the mother is not working toward those critical life milestones. However, her findings indicate that for these young parents, education and marriage in particular have an immensely positive impact, even if these milestones are achieved after having a child. Naomi, Ian, and Angela conclude by discussing how policymakers and community leaders can better encourage and reinforce the value of the completing the steps of the “success sequence” among American youth and adults, even when life does not go exactly as planned.
Resources
-Dynamics of Families After a Nonmarital Birth | Angela Rachidi
-The Success Sequence for Unmarried Mothers | Angela Rachidi
Show Notes
-0:00:44 | Why did you decide to study this particular population?
-0:03:12 | Can you talk about the “Fragile Families” dataset that you used for this report?
-0:05:08 | What were your findings for these women?
-0:12:34 | Can you isolate marriage in correlation with reducing poverty?
-0:14:29 | Can you talk about the role of multi-partner fertility?
-0:16:48 | How should we share this information with young women in these situations?
0:18:53 | What role do you think personal faith commitment plays into all of this?
Why are Americans having fewer children? And why do younger Americans seem resistant to the idea of having children at all?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Tim Carney, a senior fellow at AEI focusing on family, religion, and civil society in America. Tim discusses his upcoming book, “Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder than It Needs to Be.” Tim unpacks all the ways parenting has become harder--from the expectation that parents must provide children with every extracurricular opportunity, to the collapse of marriage and the lack of neighborhoods where kids can walk places. He also argues for a return to the idea that children are inherently valuable—not just vehicles for accomplishments. To conclude, Tim makes recommendations for how coaches, local legislators, educators, and parents can encourage younger people to prioritize getting married and starting a family as they are building their lives.
Resources
Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be | Tim Carney
Civilizational Sadness: We Are Becoming Sad and Afraid, and So We Are Making Fewer Babies | Tim Carney
Show Notes
- 0:00:45 | What prompted you to write the book?
- 0:04:21 | Are there any ways we can make culture more family-friendly through public policy?
- 0:06:56 | What makes you different that allows you to see the problems here? What can we do to cultivate more individuals who value family and children?
- 0:09:35 | Do you need an underlying religious belief in order to see family differently?
- 0:13:52 | How is all of this affecting the trend of young people who are delaying marriage?
- 0:23:00 | How can we use research like Raj Chetty’s around upward mobility to strengthen the case for families?
New York City public schools have long struggled with abysmally low literacy rates among their students. Will adopting a more evidence-based reading curriculum be enough to create improvement?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Robert Pondiscio, Senior Fellow at AEI and scholar of K-12 education, to discuss the science of reading. A former 5th grade teacher himself, Robert recounts his experience with the whole language curriculum in New York City schools, memorably dubbed “vibes-based” literacy by the New York. It centers a student’s interest in reading over the building blocks of literacy themselves. Robert discusses a recent announcement that New York schools would be switching to one of three new scientifically-backed reading programs, explaining both the hope and potential challenges that come with adopting the new framework.
Resources
- Getting Reading Right | Robert Pondiscio
- What Do Parents Need to Know About the Science of Reading? | Robert Pondiscio
Show Notes
0:01:00 | What is the science of reading and why should we be glad education leaders are embracing it?
0:04:03 | What have teachers been taught about literacy in the past, and what is the truth being rediscovered now?
0:08:57 | How difficult will it be to re-train teachers on these new curricula?
0:11:30 | How can we help teachers understand that knowledge-building must be a part of teaching reading?
0:16:21 | Can anything be done for students who have already missed the early years of proper literacy teaching?
0:19:37 | How long will it take to start seeing improvement in test scores and performance?
0:28:59 | Do you have hopes for the introduction of AI into teaching and education?
How can we ensure young Americans understand civics? Our K-12 schools have seen a significant loss in the both the quality and quantity of history and civics requirements. Is there any way reverse this trend?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Chris Sinacola, director of communications and media relations at Pioneer Institute and co-editor of Restoring the City on a Hill: U.S. History & Civics in America’s Schools. Chris discusses his new book and outlines what is behind the steady decline of history and civics education, what testing standards and results indicate about the quality of civics education in schools, the importance of connecting students with the roots of the American nation, and what it will take to preserve American tradition and history. Chris also mentions that although some of the data looks bleak, there are upward trends and ways that parents have been mobilizing to protect and improve their children’s education.
Resources
Show Notes
(Note to listener: This episode contains mention of child abuse and child fatalities.)
When children who are already on the radar of their child protection agency die from abuse, it is essential to ask whether and how this death could have been avoided. In particular, could the agency have prevented the death by doing something differently?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Marie Cohen, a child welfare policy analyst, researcher, and former Washington, DC social worker. Marie authors a blog, Child Welfare Monitor, where she recently released a report analyzing the deaths of 16 children in Washington, DC in which the death was the result of child abuse, or in which child abuse could not be ruled out as a cause of death. Marie discusses her observations from working within DC’s Child and Family Services Agency and participating in a Child Fatality Review Panel in the district, noting the ways social workers were trained to focus on strengths in the families they were working with and the agency’s attempts to prevent a “savior” mentality. She also shares her experience trying to obtain data on these fatalities from the Child and Family Services Agency, noting that the lack of transparency and available data makes it difficult to determine how these deaths could be prevented in the future.
Resources:
Show Notes:
Discussions about the child welfare system are plagued by two false narratives. The first is that cases where children are neglected are simply instances of poverty and can be solved just by providing more material resources to the family. The second is that racial disparities in the system mean that it is plagued by systemic bias and that authorities should stop intervening so frequently in the lives of black families.
This episode features a conversation between Naomi and Ian that took place at FREE Forum Denver this past November, a conference hosted by Ian as part of the FREE (family, religion, education, entrepreneurship) Initiative. In the episode, Naomi shares an overview of the child welfare system, including misconceptions about child maltreatment, and analyzes different policy approaches. She and Ian then discuss the societal trends contributing to the problems, and what steps can be taken toward reform.
Resources
Show Notes
Even as many parents grow increasingly dissatisfied with their local public schools, finding another option for their children is not always easy – or affordable. Publicly-funded school choice programs aim to bridge this gap, but they have faced enormous political opposition. As the education system rebuilds itself post-pandemic, is there hope that school-choice programs will gain more traction?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Darla Romfo, president and CEO of the Children’s Scholarship Fund, a nonprofit dedicated to providing scholarships for low-income students to attend private schools. Darla discusses the opportunities that have opened up around school choice in recent years, the rise of homeschooling and church-based schooling, and how Education Savings Accounts (ESAs) can serve as a vehicle to help more parents gain access to educational options. She also points out that though school choice programs face opposition from some corners, support remains high among parents, Republicans, and even the majority of Democrats.
Resources
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New research shows students in 2023 are making less progress in reading and math than their counterparts were prior to the pandemic. Rather than catching up after the return to in-person schooling, students fell even further behind. How can this be and what can we do about it?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Michael J. Petrilli, president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute and visiting fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution. Mike identifies contributing factors to the issue, such as chronic absenteeism and the lowering or elimination of assessment benchmarks. He argues that along with the need to place high expectations on students, we must learn to hold teachers and parents accountable for ensuring students learn. Lastly, Mike discusses bipartisan efforts to get America’s students back on track.
Resources
Show Notes
Single-parent households are more common in the U.S. than in any other country. Can we afford to ignore this reality when discussing issues of poverty and economic mobility?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Melissa Kearney, Professor of Economics at the University of Maryland and author of the new book “The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind.” Melissa makes a data-driven case for why the decline of marriage is a major driving factor of unequal outcomes for kids, particularly since children in two-parent households are more likely to achieve higher levels of education.
She argues that while there are legitimate concerns about marriage in certain situations, the reluctance to acknowledge the importance of family structure by some scholars is counterproductive. Far from avoiding the subject, we should be collecting more data on family structure, along with race, income, and other highly studied factors, in order to more fully understand how to improve children’s outcomes. Even further, Melissa states we must re-establish the social norm of marriage, even as we seek out evidence-based policies that encourage two-parent households.
Resources
• The Two-Parent Privilege | Melissa Kearney
• A Driver of Inequality That Not Enough People Are Talking About | Melissa Kearney
• No Culture Wars, Please, We’re Academics | Naomi Schaefer Riley
• The Privilege Hiding in Plain Sight | Ian Rowe
Show Notes
• 0:00:38 | what inspired you to write this book, as an economist?
• 0:06:25 | why do you think results showing the importance of two-parent families often get buried?
• 0:16:10 | how do we elevate family structure as a discussion point when addressing child outcomes?
• 0:20:02 | what proposals do you have for encouraging two-parent families? How skeptical are you of the solutions that have already been put forward?
• 0:25:35 | is adoption a viable pathway to help build stable families?
• 0:27:46 | can public dollars drive solutions for an issue that is deeply rooted in the culture?
• 0:32:26 | how can your book be a catalyst for creating more unity on this issue?
Over the summer, the California State Board of Education proposed its new math framework, a nearly 1,000 page document that has generated considerable controversy. While some are criticizing the overt political content within the framework, the more important question is: Will the framework actually help students learn math?
This week, Naomi and Ian are joined by Brian Conrad, mathematics professor and the director of undergraduate mathematics studies at Stanford University, to discuss the new framework. Brian focuses on the framework’s pitch for schools to offer “data science” courses as an alternative to Algebra II. Brian explains that not only are these data science courses much lighter in math content, but they also have the potential to steer students off track from being able to study actual Data Science at the college level.
He argues that the framework’s proposals center on optics, or “fake equity,” as opposed to changes that would actually serve disadvantaged students. As other proposals emerge in other states, without any clarity on the long term consequences for students, Brian notes that parents and university professors need to push back.
Resources
California’s Math Misadventure Is About to Go National | Brian Conrad | The Atlantic
Public Comments on the CMF | Brian Conrad
Show Notes
1:04 | What about the proposed California Math Framework was so concerning to you?
3:34 | What is data science as a field of study at the college level, and how would you describe the content of data science courses being advocated for at the high school level?
6:54 | What is the best progression of math from 8th grade through high school to ensure that students are best prepared for college?
10:00 | What response did you receive when you released your public comment?
11:45 | What happened in the San Francisco experiment with the new CMF?
13:28 | What do you think about CalTech’s decision to create an alternative pathway to admission for students that don’t have access to upper level courses in math and science?
18:08 | Do you think the tide is turning against “fake equity” proposals or will more of the country follow California’s footsteps?
20:20 | Is the concern behind some of these new proposals that allowing certain students to excel will cause inequity? Is that concern valid?
24:28 | What happens now that the new framework has passed?
On October 2nd, England’s Department of Education announced it will back all head teachers who ban smartphone use in schools, even during break times. According to data from the National Center for Education Statistics, during the 2019-20 school year, 77% of public schools in the U.S. said they did not allow phone use during school hours, yet many schools still struggle to enforce such policies. What can educators do to ensure distraction-free environments where students can focus on learning?
Naomi and Ian are back after a few months’ hiatus and joined by Katharine Birbalsingh, founder and head teacher of Michael Community School, a free school established in 2014 in Wembley Park, London. Katharine explains Michaela’s “if we see it, if we hear it, we take it” policy on phone use in school, along with the remarkable results she has seen in student performance and behavior during the school day. Consistency in messaging and enforcement, she explains, is the key to creating a culture where teachers, parents, and even students, are in support of a phone-free environment.
Beyond just banning phones, Michaela seeks to instill in students the principles of personal responsibility, self-discipline, and resilience. Katharine outlines how she applies these principles to specific issues like assigning homework, encouraging all students to see themselves as “British,” not just members of a particular racial or ethnic group, and teaching children “knowledge” over “skills.”
Resources
Finally, We’re All Wising up About the Dangers of Screen Time for Kids – Naomi Schaefer Riley, The Los Angeles Times
The Power of Culture: The Michaela Way – book by Katharine Birbalsingh
Katharine Birbalsingh on Michaela – The Report Card with Nat Malkus
Show Notes
0:00:50 – What is Michaela’s approach to devices in school?
0:06:47 – How do you gain consistency among your team regarding phone use?
0:15:14 – How replicable are Michaela’s policies, and is anyone attempting to replicate them?
0:19:31 – How does a free school in England compare to a charter school in America?
0:24:42 – is the success of the Michaela model garnering attention from policymakers and leaders in education?
0:28:04 – how does E.D. Hirsch’s book, The Making of Americans, influence your educational philosophy and practice at Michaela?
75 percent of 10 year-old black children are not at grade-level proficiency in math or reading. How is this possible?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Robert Cherry, adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and author of the new book The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope. As an economist and journalist, Robert documents how unstable family structures are contributing to the problems plaguing black communities today, including gun violence and underperformance in the classroom.
Robert explains that marriage rates are significantly lower for blacks than whites, which means fewer black children are being born into two-parent families. Multi-partner fertility—having kids with multiple people—is also disproportionately high among black women.
Instead of government-based solutions that try to substitute for the family, such as universal preschool, Robert advocates for policies that focus on helping the family, like home visiting programs to increase caregiver capacity. To address racial gaps in education, Robert argues for establishing stackable certificate programs to compensate vocational workers for experience, along with extending Pell Grant eligibility for apprenticeships.
Resources
• The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope | Robert Cherry
• Distance to 100: An Alternative to Racial Achievement Gaps | Ian Rowe
Show Notes
• 02:20 | Dynamics in the black family
• 04:06 | The state of the black family 60 years ago
• 05:10 | Vulnerabilities in the black community
• 09:03 | Policy recommendations to support the family
• 16:50 | Renewed approach to vocational training
In Bernalillo County, New Mexico, 68 children under the age of one overdosed on fentanyl in 2022 alone. How did this happen? And how can we fix it?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Maralyn Beck, founder and executive director of the New Mexico Child First Network. Maralyn explains how New Mexico’s “public health approach” to babies born substance-exposed is leading more children be left in dangerous home environments with no supports or accountability.
Under (CARA), the federal government made states responsible for implementing ‘plans of care’ for mothers and children who test positive for drugs at birth. New Mexico took a non-punitive public health approach: A 2019 law that barred medical professionals from referring families to Child Protective Services (CPS) solely because of parental drug use or infant drug exposure.
Maralyn tells the story of a nurse whose report was ignored by CPS after ra baby’s parents were caught smoking fentanyl twice in the hospital. To address this crisis, Maralyn advocates universal screening of infants for substance exposure.. Drug use makes parenting harder, and now is the time for policymakers to provide parents with a path out of addiction and into family stability.
Resources:
• Parenting While High | Naomi Schaefer Riley | City Journal
• Child Welfare’s Ideological Enforcer | Naomi Schaefer Riley | City Journal
Show Notes:
• 03:50 | A failing public health approach to CARA
• 10:08 | Estimating the number of newborns in New Mexico born drug exposed
• 11:01 | Child Protective Services ignoring reports from hospitals
• 15:00 | Who is legally responsible for these drug-addicted infants?
• 16:07 | Comparing approaches to CARA
Are black children over-reported and over-represented in the child welfare system? Are their cases more likely to be substantiated than those of white children? Are black children placed in foster care at a higher rate?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Brett Drake, Professor of Data Science for the Social Good in Practice at the Washington University in St. Louis. Brett and a team of researchers recently published a paper examining these questions by analyzing reports of child maltreatment from 2005-2019. While it is impossible to know exactly how many children are maltreated each year, they found that black children are 2-3 times more likely to live in poverty and live in single parent households. Teen birth rates and low high school graduation rates are also 2-3 times higher in the black community. All of these factors are associated with maltreatment. Yet according to Drake’s analysis, black children are reported for maltreatment only about 1.8 times as often as white children.
Once children are in the system, they discovered that black children’s cases are less likely to be substantiated and they are less likely to be placed in foster care than white children.
These findings dispel the popular narrative in child welfare that racial disparities are merely the result of systemic bias. Policymakers cannot be afraid to say that black and white children often grow up in different circumstances in our society and that child protection must respond accordingly.
Resources:
• Racial/Ethnic Differences in Child Protective Services Reporting | Brett Drake
• Children Are Dead Because Activists Say It’s Racist for ACS to Act | Naomi Schaefer Riley | New York Post
Show notes:
• 01:29 | Does racism explain racial disparities?
• 04:51 | Estimating child maltreatment
• 08:33 | An equitable response to differential risk
• 16:50 | Blaming the problem is not blaming the victim
Can government child welfare agencies demand that foster parents adhere to certain ideological viewpoints, even if they are in opposition to those parents’ religious or personal beliefs? In Oregon, this remains to be seen.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Jonathan Scruggs, Senior Counsel and director of the Center for Conscience Initiatives with Alliance Defending Freedom. Jonathan is representing Jessica Bates, a single mother of five who filed a federal lawsuit against Oregon’s Department of Human Services after she was denied the opportunity to adopt a child out of foster care. Contrary to the department’s policy, she would not agree (hypothetically) to take a child to receive hormone shots. Jessica also would not agree to avoid religious services that did not support a (hypothetical, again) gender transition.
Jonathan explains that the state of Oregon requires every parent to agree to these conditions, and failure to do so makes you ineligible to adopt any child in need of a home.
Eliminating the ability for some parents to adopt because of their religious beliefs shrinks an already small pool of people who are willing and able to do this hard work.
Resources:
• Closing Young Minds | Naomi Schaefer Riley | City Journal
• Bureaucrats Are Ripping Foster Families Apart | Naomi Schaefer Riley | National Review
Why does it take so long for some states to find safe, permanent homes for foster children?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Sarah Font, Associate Professor of Sociology at Penn State University. Sarah recently published a report card for AEI, ranking states based on how long children wait in the foster care system to find a permanent home. The measures from the report card are taken from the Adoption and Safe Families Act (ASFA), which says that states should petition for a termination of parental rights if a child has been in foster care for 15 of the last 22 months.
Sarah explains that states regularly disregard these guidelines, in part out of sympathy for biological parents who lose custody of their children. But decades of research show that 20-40% of children who are reunified end up re-entering foster care due to repeated instances of abuse or neglect.
Utah is the top-ranked state in the report because its policies clearly indicate how caseworkers and courts are supposed to implement ASFA. In contrast, child welfare administrators in Illinois, which ranks last, admit that they do not consider ASFA as part of their decision-making when evaluating child protection cases.
States should look toward Utah as a model to make sure they are following federal guidelines and work to recruit more foster families to ensure children do not languish for years in foster care.
Resources:
• Timely Permanency Report Cards | Sarah Font | American Enterprise Institute
• Foster Kids Need Permanent Homes | Sarah Font and Naomi Schaefer Riley | Wall Street Journal
• The Government Is Uprooting Children From Loving Homes Because of Woke Views on Race | Sarah Font and Naomi Schaefer Riley | Newsweek
• How Long Do Children in Foster Care Wait for Permanent Families? | AEI Website
Show Notes:
• 01:00 | What does it mean for children in the foster care system to achieve permanency?
• 03:40 | What are the guidelines for the Adoption and Safe Families Act?
• 07:30 | Why are child welfare agencies and family courts reluctant to sever parental rights?
• 10:15 | What states are doing well and what are the patterns with racial disparities?
In the fall of 2020, the school board of Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology unanimously voted to eliminate its merit-based, race-blind admissions process. The school principal then went on record saying that she wanted more brown and black children despite minorities representing 80 percent of the school’s students.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Asra Nomani, author of Woke Army: The Red-Green Alliance That Is Destroying America’s Freedom. Asra created the Coalition for TJ—a group of Thomas Jefferson parents, students, and alumni—which filed a legal challenge against the new admissions process in 2021. In February 2022, a federal judge ruled it was unconstitutional because the process discriminates against Asian American applicants.
Asra describes how the movement of “racial balancing” at TJ has since infiltrated schools and workplaces around the country. The effort to prioritize equity over equality of opportunity has not only harmed children of underprivileged immigrant families, it also threatens to undermine the ability of American students to compete globally. Parents have rallied to preserve merit and individual achievement, and Asra believes that the next step is to galvanize the parents’ movement toward greater political engagement on the local and national level.
Resources:
• Woke Army: The Red-Green Alliance That Is Destroying America's Freedom | Asra Nomani
• Here’s Why All Students Need Agency Rather Than Equity | Ian Rowe | New York Post
Show Notes:
• 01:23 | What’s been happening at Thomas Jefferson High School?
• 07:10 | Where do things stand at TJ now?
• 09:45 | How do we fall short at communicating that we want to create and expand opportunities for children of all races?
• 12:42 | Where is public opinion on this nationwide?
• 24:00 | What should parents be looking out for next?
How has woke ideology transformed schools and other institutions for young children, and what can parents do about it?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Karol Markowicz, columnist at the New York Post and co-author of the new book, Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation. Karol compares the current progressive attempts at indoctrination of young people to education in the Soviet Union (where she was born and lived the early years of her life). There, she notes, forced conformity led to the end of merit and individual achievement. And she sees the same thing happening here. Wokeism has spread beyond just education however, and it differs from “old leftism” in that it does not allow for any deviation from orthodoxy. Professionals in once-trusted institutions are now afraid of public disagreement for fear of losing their jobs. Wokeism will not die out naturally. Karol suggests that parents should speak up about these matters, have honest discussions about politics with their children, and consider running for school board positions.
Resources:
• Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation | Karol Markowicz, Bethany Mandel | DW Books
• Here’s Why All Students Need Agency Rather Than Equity | Ian Rowe | New York Post
Show Notes:
• 02:55 | What are some examples of wokeism being imposed on children?
• 05:09 |Comparing wokiesm to the Soviet Union
• 11:06 | Equality vs. Equity
• 18:47 | Will wokeism die out on its own?
• 20:31 | This isn’t just a blue state problem
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Richard Gehrman, the executive director of Safe Passage for Children of Minnesota. A new report from Safe Passage examines 88 child maltreatment fatalities in Minnesota from 2014-2022. Racial disparities in the data were evident. Black children represented 28 percent of the fatalities, but they only make up 18 percent of children in the state. Substance abuse was also a factor in almost a third of the fatalities, and about half of the deaths were tied to a non-biological parent.
Richard explains that these deaths were preventable—child protection agencies, law enforcement, and mental health professionals had been alerted that these children were in danger. But little or no corrective action was taken because agencies were understaffed and workers are concerned that too much intervention will perpetuate what they see as structural bias in the system.
The report from Safe Passage has received attention from public policy researchers who seem interested in producing similar reports in other states. The challenge is to persuade elected officials to prioritize meaningful legislation in response to the report’s findings.
Resources:
• Minnesota Child Fatalities from Maltreatment: 2014-2022 | Safe Passage for Children of Minnesota
• Dangerous Illusions | Naomi Schaefer Riley | City Journal
Show Notes:
01:00 | What is Safe Passage for Children of Minnesota?
02:15 | How was Safe Passage able to put together this report?
05:20 | Breaking down the findings in the report
10:50 | Why do these cases get marked as low risk by the system?
14:15 | Racial disparities and substance abuse were prevalent
17:30 | The need for better communication between all professionals involved in domestic violence cases
The latest artificial intelligence chatbot, ChatGPT, is capable of writing entire essays in a matter of seconds. Just two months after its release, over 30% of college students admit to using it for some of their work. How will ChatGPT affect education, and what can educators do about it?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Rick Hess, a senior fellow and the director of education policy studies at AEI. Rick describes how ChatGPT can mimic human writing convincingly, making it easier for students to avoid completing generic high school papers. But he hopes that this could lead teachers to assign more in-class writing, and teach the students how to approach each step of the writing process. ChatGPT can provide valuable shortcuts to students and employees alike, but the challenge is to ensure that it does not replace the development of core skills.
Resources:
• Will ChatGPT Unflip the Classroom? | Rick Hess | Education Week
• AI, Your College Student, and the End of Individual Achievement | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Deseret News
Show Notes:
• 0:47 | How does ChatGPT threaten the flipped classroom?
• 4:31 | How to measure individual achievement?
• 8:40 | What about ethics?
• 10:08 | ChatGPT will force educators to teach students more effectively
• 20:50 | What are ChatGPT’s benefits to the workplace?
What is a teacher’s role in the classroom and how do students learn best?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Daniel Buck, teacher, Senior Visiting Fellow at the Fordham Institute, and author of the new book, “What Is Wrong with Our Schools?” Daniel describes the philosophy of education, beginning with the classical view that teachers are the authorities in the classroom and their primary role is to transmit knowledge to their students. Starting in the 1960s, though, progressive educators Henry Giroux and Paulo Freire popularized the idea that teachers are merely guides, helping students on a path of self-discovery.
Freire’s philosophy is dominant in K-12 education today, with teachers and administrators seeing teaching as a fundamentally oppressive task. This has led to innovations liked “project-based learning” or the “flipped classroom” where the student is encouraged to explore what already interests them. Not only do these strategies fail to impart important information to students, they also leave many students frustrated. Evidence suggests that students need structure, guidance, and a knowledge-based approach in order to succeed academically.
Resources:
• What Is Wrong With Our Schools? The ideology impoverishing education in America and how we can do better for our students | Daniel Buck | John Catt Educational
• Teach for America Needs to Focus on Teaching | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Deseret News
Show Notes:
• 01:30 | How was the flipped classroom supposed to help kids?
• 05:00 | What is wrong with our schools?
• 07:30 | Is educating someone an oppressive task?
• 15:30 | Student-centered learning advantages affluent children
• 17:10 | What are the empowering alternatives?
In the summer of 2020 in Kenosha, Wisconsin, a cell phone captured video of a white police officer shooting a black man. The viral clip sparked mass protests and violent riots, culminating in Kyle Rittenhouse, a white teenager, going to Kenosha to defend it against the protestors. The media portrayed these incidents as another example of racism in law enforcement and irresponsible gun ownership. But is there more to the story?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Rob Montz, CEO of Good Kid Productions and creator of the documentary “The Broken Boys of Kenosha: Jacob Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse, and the Lies We Still Live By.” Rob dispels some of the common myths surrounding the shooting and reveals how partisan media coverage failed to report the underlying cause of these events. Each main character in this story lacked a present and loving father in their lives. Having a fatherless childhood has profound negative effects on boys, and Rob explains that policymakers and society need to start seeing fatherlessness as a morally urgent issue that matters for the future of the country.
Resources:
• The Broken Boys of Kenosha: Jacob Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse, and the Lies We Still Live By | Rob Montz | Good Kid Productions
• The Power of Personal Agency | Ian Rowe | Wall Street Journal
Show Notes:
• 02:00 | Kenosha is an excellent case study of systemic corruption in the media environment
• 05:30 | Recapping the shooting of Jacob Blake and the aftermath
• 08:30 | Fatherlessness tied everyone together
• 17:55 | People in Kenosha understood the impact of fatherlessness
• 22:00 | Fatherlessness is a phenomenon that affects all races and can only be fixed by culture and individual agency
The last few decades have seen a huge growth in scientific research on early brain development, showing that the earliest years in a child’s life are pivotal in laying the foundation for long-term success. Funding for early childhood policy has mostly focused on non-parental care, in the form of daycare, universal pre-K, and Head Start. Are there alternative policy solutions to help parents with young children?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Katharine B. Stevens, former resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and founder and CEO of the new think tank, the Center on Child and Family Policy (CCFP). CCFP is prioritizing research on family and health, with a special focus on improving outcomes for children born to single parents.
With over 40 percent of babies born to parents who are on Medicaid, Katharine argues we should look to organizations like the Centering HealthCare Institute, which has created more affordable group pre-natal and post-natal care. Katharine also argues for subsidizing the wages of one parent while also allowing the other parent to take an advance on their child tax credit. This will help ensure that parents who want to have the ability to stay home and raise their new child.
Resources:
• Why I’m Founding CCFP | Katharine B. Stevens | Center on Child and Family Policy
• Improving Early Childhood Development by Allowing Advanced Child Tax Credits | Katharine B. Stevens and Matt Weidinger | Tax Notes Federal
Show Notes:
• 02:00 | Research shows the earliest years of brain development are the most critical
• 04:30 | Focusing exclusively on child care, universal pre-K, and head start excludes better policy interventions
• 12:35 | We should be ensuring quality access to pre-natal health and focusing on strengthening the family
• 21:00 | The success of the Centering Institute
• 26:30 | How can DC think tanks work to shape culture along with policy?
This fall, the US Supreme Court heard oral arguments challenging race-based admission policies at the University of North Carolina and Harvard. Despite previous rulings that have upheld constitutional preferences to achieve a racially diverse study body, the court is widely expected to rule against this form of affirmative action. How have American policies on children evolved politically and how has affirmative action come to reflect right versus left ideology today?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Matthew Continetti, Senior Fellow and inaugural Patrick and Charlene Neal Chair in American Prosperity at the American Enterprise Institute. Matt outlines how race-based quotas introduced under President Richard Nixon were initially designed to help the social and economic advancement of the descendants of American slaves. However, the classification expanded over time as the left began to embrace the idea of color consciousness, and the notion that the presence of a racial disparity means there must be racism at work.
Matt argues that the conservative movement has been most successful in education policy because it acknowledged everyday Americans who are dissatisfied with overreach by the Left and are looking for substantive policy responses. Advocating for school choice, charter schools, and greater accountability from public schools has received widespread support from the American public, and conservatives should continue in this vein.
Resources:
• The End of Affirmative Action? | Matthew Continetti | Commentary
• Is It Time to Replace Race with Class in Affirmative Action? | Ian Rowe | Eduwonk
Show Notes:
• 02:00 | How did affirmative action divide the left and the right?
• 06:00 | The unintended consequences of government action
• 10:00 | Most Americans view each other as individuals, not members of groups
• 11:30 | The negative effects of race-based ideologies
• 16:15 | What is the future of the conservative movement?
Two weeks after three-year-old Shaquan Butler was found dead at a homeless shelter in Queens, two more young children were fatally stabbed by their mother inside a family shelter in the Bronx. There were plenty of warning signs in both cases, and even worse the, Administration for Children’s Services (ACS) had already been investigating the families prior to the murders. What keeps social workers from rescuing children in unsafe homes and how can child welfare agencies start putting kids’ safety first?
In this episode, Ian interviews Naomi on the failures of the child welfare system today, driven by the misguided belief that the existence of racial disparities is proof that the system is racist. While black children are investigated by child welfare agencies and in foster and congregate care at a higher rate than represented in the population, they are also twice as likely to experience abuse and neglect and three times as likely to die from child maltreatment.
Instead of prioritizing racial equity, ACS should acknowledge the role of family structure, substance abuse, and mental illness in these tragedies, and train caseworkers to understand that their primary goal is to protect children.
Resources:
• No Way to Treat a Child: How the Foster Care System, Family Courts, and Racial Activists Are Wrecking Young Lives | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Bombardier Books
• The City Knew Three-Year-Old Beaten to Death Was Being Abused—What Does It Take for Agencies to Act? | Naomi Schaefer Riley | New York Post
Show Notes:
• 01:20 | What is going on with ACS?
• 04:35 | Debunking the narrative that child welfare systems are racist because racial disparities exist
• 08:30 | Family structure is not distributed evenly in this country
• 09:35 | The tragedies of Shaquan, DeSean, and Octavius
• 21:00 | Child welfare agencies’ main equity is protecting children from harm, not racial equity
A century after the Supreme Court’s infamous ruling that children are “not mere creatures of the state,” there is a rising belief today that government is better suited than parents to decide what’s best for children. Increasingly, teachers and school administrators are making critical decisions about students’ upbringing without parental consent or even knowledge. How will this ideology affect the relationship between parents and teachers and how should parents respond?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Robert Pondiscio, a former teacher and Senior Fellow in education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. Robert outlines the current legal lines that have been drawn between parents and schools. He expresses concern over states like New Jersey that are wrongfully using FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) as a legal basis for not notifying parents when children change their pronouns or gender. While these guidelines are intended to protect children, Robert argues that they only erode trust between parents and teachers.
With the latest NAEP (National Assessment of Educational Progress) report showing that a majority of students nationwide still cannot read and do math at grade level, parents should get involved in their local school districts to ensure that schools are focusing on academic performance above all else.
Resources:
• Schoolchildren Are Not ‘Mere Creatures of the State’ | Robert Pondiscio | American Enterprise Institute
• How to Educate an American | Ian Rowe, Naomi Schaefer Riley | Templeton Press
Show Notes:
• 00:40 | What does it mean that schoolchildren are not mere creatures of the state?
• 03:25 | Public education is assuming powers it doesn’t have
• 08:00 | Keeping secrets from parents violates FERPA
• 11:10 | There’s a cultural problem in education where we tend to distrust parents
• 15:55 | What are the political ramifications of this belief?
The Biden administration recently announced its decision to forgive $10,000 in student loans for borrowers making less than $125,000 per year and up to $20,000 for Pell Grant recipients. Is this policy the best way to help kids? Is it even legal?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by David French, senior editor at The Dispatch and columnist for The Atlantic. David explains that this $400 billion proposal is effectively financial relief given to one of society’s most privileged populations. Most of the taxpayers footing this bill aren’t college graduates, and it’s unreasonable to ask them to subsidize the education debt of people who stand to earn more money over the course of their lifetimes.
David also breaks down why this idea is on shaky legal ground, in part because the administration has to demonstrate that this relief is tied to an actual emergency. After Biden declared, “the pandemic is over,” that argument is harder to make.
Resources:
• Why Biden’s Debt-Relief Plan ‘Pings Our Sense of Unfairness’ | David French | The Atlantic
• Biden’s Student Loan Announcement Is a Regressive, Expensive Mistake | The Washington Post Editorial Board
Show Notes:
• 01:21 | How the relief program benefits the most economically advantaged classes of people
• 06:37 | A discouraging message to frugal and hardworking students
• 08:30 | Legal landscape: the concept of standing
• 13:06 | Legal landscape: the program's unconstitutionality
• 17:35 | What is the political calculus behind student debt relief?
• 21:15 | Prioritizing policies that support young people on finding the right career path
Following the Dobbs decision, how can policymakers and adoption agencies ensure that adoption is one of the options women consider when they find themselves with an unplanned pregnancy?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Elizabeth Kirk, director of the Center for Law and the Human Person at Catholic University’s Columbus School of Law. Elizabeth explains that adoption is not often considered by mothers because many are unaware of how much control they have in the adoption process, choosing the family they want their child to be raised in. Many people also confuse private infant adoption with adoption out of the foster care system.
In order to prioritize adoption as a meaningful choice for women, Elizabeth recommends that states require schools to teach about adoption in sex education classes, using programs like Option Hope in Louisiana. While she praises the adoption tax credit, the kinds of policies that would result in women considering adoption come from improving options counseling and giving birth mothers post-placement counseling.
Resources:
Countering the ‘Soft Stigma’ Against Adoption | Elizabeth Kirk | Institute for Family Studies
The Role of Adoption in Dobbs-Era Pro-Life Policy | Elizabeth Kirk | Charlotte Lozier Institute
Adoption After Dobbs | American Enterprise Institute Event
Show Notes:
• 01:11 | Misbeliefs and reasons why adoption is still not considered a meaningful option
• 06:37 | Best-practices on how states can create a welcoming debate about adoption
• 12:14 | A legal landscape that promotes informed consent counseling
• 14:06 | How faith-based institutions model radical hospitality in child welfare
• 16:22 | Prioritizing adequate language and understanding women’s needs
What lessons can policymakers and child welfare workers learn from those with personal experience in the foster care system in order to best support vulnerable children?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Tori Hope Petersen, former foster youth, current foster mom, and author of the gripping memoir Fostered. Tori describes how she navigated her way to a life of college graduation, athletic success, and a loving family despite living in twelve different foster homes. She recounts the positive influence of her Court Appointed Special Advocate and explains the need for more accountability with caseworkers. Tori believes we should be doing more to promote kinship care, detailing her powerful relationship with her track coach and mentor who ultimately served as her father figure.
Resources:
• Fostered: One Woman’s Powerful Story of Finding Faith and Family Through Foster Care | Tori Hope Petersen | B&H Books
• We’re Still Failing Kids in Foster Care | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Deseret News
Show Notes:
• 01:06 | Tori’s childhood and first experience with the child welfare system
• 05:49 | The conflict of interests of caseworkers and the role of Court Appointed Special Advocates
• 09:45 | The importance and neglect in the foster system of kinship care
• 17:04 | How Tori found guidance and healing in faith
• 21:41 | Broadening the horizon for other people's stories in college
Public policy often looks at race, social class, and gender when analyzing educational inequality. But what impact could religion have on academic performance?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Ilana Horwitz, Assistant Professor in the Department of Jewish Studies at Tulane University and the author of God, Grades, and Graduation. Ilana breaks down the findings from a nationally representative study out of Notre Dame, which showed that students raised in Christian backgrounds get better grades in middle and high school regardless of their socioeconomic status. However, middle and upper-class students tend to choose less selective colleges, in part because college selection for religious students is more of a social decision than an economic one.
Ilana explains that children who grow up religious tend to be conscientious, kind to others, and more self-disciplined, all qualities useful for performing well in school. Yet she does not argue that the country needs to be more religious. Instead, she advocates for identifying other institutions that offer the same kind of social capital as religion in order to instill a greater sense of purpose and hope among youth.
Resources:
• ‘God, Grades, and Graduation’ Review: A Faithful Way to Learn | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Wall Street Journal
• I Followed the Lives of 3,290 Teenagers. This Is What I Learned About Religion and Education. | Ilana Horwitz | New York Times
Show Notes:
• 01:15 | Describing some results from the National Study on Youth and Religion
• 04:30 | Religious students get better grades in middle and high school
• 06:30 | How do religious students choose colleges?
• 17:45 | Religion provides a sense of purpose
• 21:25 | Is this a call to action to be more religious?
Are college professors allowed to write about the differences between men and women? Can they speak out about the importance of strong families in creating strong societies? The short answer is no.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Scott Yenor, Professor of Political Science at Boise State University and the author of The Recovery of Family Life. Scott was recently investigated by his employer after sharing his thoughts on these matters. After fifty years during which conservatives have tried to accommodate the basic principles of feminism, Scott explains that we need to celebrate the natural differences between men and women instead of socially engineering gender roles based on political ideology. Scott objects to gender equity programs in professional development and believes that K-12 schools should focus more on teaching students how they can build a solid marriage and happy family.
Resources:
• Inside the Title IX Tribunal | Scott Yenor | Law & Liberty
• The Recovery of Family Life: Exposing the Limits of Modern Ideologies | Scott Yenor | Baylor University Press
Show Notes:
• 00:50 | What is behind Scott’s Title IX investigation?
• 05:55 | Strong countries need strong families
• 08:11 | The problem with gender equity programs
• 15:05 | Feminism only works under a certain policy environment
• 23:40 | The impact of cancel culture
A new AEI report found that the COVID-19 pandemic caused the largest enrollment declines in the history of American public Schools. 85 percent of school districts across the country had enrollment losses the year after the pandemic started, and almost half of districts saw declines of 3 percent, a seven-fold increase from the prior year. Why are Americans fleeing public schools?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Betsy DeVos, former secretary of education and author of the new book Hostages No More. Over the last two years, parents have witnessed school closures, mask mandates, and seen the impact of a curriculum focused more on social justice than preparing students for high levels of academic achievement. Secretary DeVos explains the flaws in the public school system that pre-date the pandemic and believes broadening school choice will return a standard of excellence to the classroom. Despite efforts in some states to return to remote learning or require masks in schools, Secretary DeVos is optimistic the public’s opposition to these measures will force politicians to put the interests of families and children first.
Resources:
• Hostages No More: The Fight for Education Freedom and the Future of the American Child | Betsy DeVos
• Pandemic Enrollment Fallout: School District Enrollment Changes Across COVID-19 Response | Nat Malkus | American Enterprise Institute
Show Notes:
• 01:20 | Why are Americans fleeing public schools?
• 06:30 | Why is it difficult to address the failings of public school?
• 11:10 | The problems with the Department of Education
• 16:00 | Should we have a national referendum on what topics should be taught in public school?
• 17:30 | The way we run K-12 education is very outdated
Following the Dobbs decision, pregnant women uncertain about their future should be informed of all the options available to them, including adoption. For many, though, encouraging adoption is seen as coercive. Is this accurate?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Kate Trambitskaya, CEO of Spence-Chapin Services to Families and Children. For over 125 years, Spence-Chapin has supported women in crisis through comprehensive counseling. Kate explains Spence Chapin’s recent efforts to explain the differences between private adoption and public adoption out of the foster care system. The former does not involve government intrusion. Rather, private adoption is an alternative to parenting. Every expectant parent deserves to know that at adoption agencies nationwide, there is a waiting list filled with stable families who are ready, willing, and able to adopt children.
Resources:
• Adoption After Dobbs | Naomi Schaefer Riley | City Journal
• Birth Parent Support: The Spence-Chapin Way | Leslie Nobel | Spence-Chapin Services to Families & Children
Show Notes:
• 1:40 | What has changed after Dobbs
• 2:40 | Adoption as an empowering option
• 5:37 | Comparing adoption at birth with adoption from foster care system
• 9:45 | What does Legal Defense look like in the Foster Care System?
• 10:35 | The benefits of Open Adoption
• 14:55 | Is adoption an alternative to abortion?
• 21:45 | Who chooses adoption?
• 24:10 | Race and Adoption
What should kids be reading in school? A movement has swept through K-12 classrooms to cancel classic texts and replace them with more racially diverse voices. Yet the very authors these activists are seeking to eliminate from school curricula influenced prominent African-American thinkers like Martin Luther King Jr. and James Baldwin.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Dr. Anika Prather, professor in the Classics department at Howard University and founder of The Living Water School. To “decolonize” the curriculum, eliminating works by Shakespeare and Socrates, explained Dr. Prather, is to create holes in our understanding of black authors and the interconnected history of people today. While these educators might mean well, their decision to stop reading the classics in the name of social justice will only prevent our children from forming a broader worldview.
For a better understanding of how to teach the classics, educators should draw inspiration from Dr. Prather’s own classically inspired school based on the Sudbury model.
Resources:
• Living in the Constellation of the Canon: The Lived Experiences of African-American Students Reading Great Books Literature | Dr. Anika Prather
Show Notes:
• 1:45 | Background of the fight over literature education
• 3:10 | Using literature to understand the Civil Rights Movement
• 5:20 | Accessibility in Literature Education
• 7:20 | The Harlem Renaissance and Classical Education
• 9:30 | Decolonization Literary Movement
• 13:20 | Background of the Living Waters School
• 20:25 | Recommended Reading
• 24:30 | Responding to Pushback
• 29:15 | Chinua Achebe and the classics
The push for gender-affirming therapy for young people is driven by the empirical claim that if this type of healthcare is not made widely and readily available, kids who are questioning their identity are in danger of committing suicide. This emotional extortion has caused adults to see this care as the only solution to help these children. What does the data really tell us?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Jay Greene, a Senior Research Fellow for the Center for Education Policy at the Heritage Foundation. Jay explains that previous studies making this claim fail to capture a representative sample of young people with gender dysphoria. In his new paper, Jay finds a 14 percent increase in annual suicide rates in states where minors are able to access gender-affirming care compared to states that prevent minors from undergoing this care without parental consent. Jay also suggests that the effort by guidance counselors, teachers, and school administrators to automatically affirm a child’s gender identity undermines parents and fails to address any underlying mental health conditions that would help everyone work together to determine what is in the best interest of each child.
Resources:
• Puberty Blockers, Cross-Sex Hormones, and Youth Suicide | Jay Greene | Heritage Foundation
• When the State Comes for Your Kids | Abigail Shrier | City Journal
Show Notes:
• 2:28 | Claims regarding gender-affirming therapy
• 6:37 | Problems with prior studies on gender-affirming drugs
• 8:28 | Relation to severe mental health issues
• 14:30 | Background of Dr. Greene’s study
• 16:55 | Discussing Dr. Greene’s study and his findings
• 20:40 | Comparing suicide rates across generations
• 24:10 | Title IX and new Biden Regulations
Since research suggests that past maltreatment of a child is the best predictor of future child abuse or neglect, several states have enacted a program called “birth match.” This program compares the names of parents of newborns with lists of individuals who have previously killed or seriously injured a child or had their parental rights terminated. Are these programs worthwhile? Should other states follow suit?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Marie Cohen, a child welfare policy analyst, researcher, and former Washington, DC social worker. Marie describes the birth match systems as they have been adopted by five states and explains the challenges she faced when gathering research for her latest report. Despite opposition to birth match from both civil liberties advocates and progressive activists, Marie says that the goal of the program is non-partisan— protecting children—and hopes that it will become more widely adopted.
Resources:
• Learning from the Past: Using Child Welfare Data to Protect Infants Through Birth Match Policies | Marie Cohen | American Enterprise Institute
• Would a broader birth match have saved Antoine Flemons? | Marie Cohen | Child Welfare Monitor
Show Notes:
• 01:30 | What is birth match?
• 05:25 | A name matches, what’s next?
• 09:07 | Unofficial work-arounds seeking the welfare of the child
• 11:25 | Birth match and civil liberties
• 14:10 | The trouble with data
• 16:50 | Opposition to child welfare services due to supposed racism
• 20:06 | Potential for future federal action
Classroom instruction in the field of “Social and Emotional Learning” (SEL) has recently come under fire, particularly from conservatives. Critics see SEL as a mechanism for the government to indoctrinate students on controversial social issues. But should teachers abandon social and emotional learning altogether?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Nathaniel Grossman, a research intern at the Fordham Institute and former elementary school teacher. Nathaniel explains how Social and Emotional Learning has always been a critical component of a child’s education. He highlights the importance of creating a comfortable environment in the classroom for children to express their concerns and to teach them how to function well and collaborate with others. He worries that some forms of SEL will run contrary to values students are learning at home. And he is also concerned that in the name of improving students’ mental health, districts are eliminating testing and other assessments. Lowering expectations for students, which in turn lowers students’ expectations of themselves, is SEL done poorly.
Resources:
• Schools have no choice but to teach social and emotional skills | Nathaniel Grossman | Fordham Institute
• What It Will Take for Social and Emotional Learning to Succeed | Frederick M. Hess and RJ Martin | American Enterprise Institute
• A Dubious Consensus on ‘Social and Emotional’ Learning | Frederick M. Hess | American Enterprise Institute
Show Notes:
• 02:50 | What is Social and Emotional Learning?
• 04:18 | Children will pick up social and emotional cues whether or not they are intentionally taught
• 07:23 | Handling hot topics like gender identity and school shootings in the classroom
• 11:30 | On sheltering students from potentially triggering standardized testing
• 15:10 | The harm of lowering standards in the name of SEL
• 18:45 | Evaluating students’ social and emotional skills
Every child in America deserves to know that a path to a successful life exists and they have the power to follow it. But instead, kids today are besieged by two incomplete, harmful narratives. The “blame the system” narrative teaches kids they are powerless against societal forces while the “blame the victim” narrative tells them that any undesirable outcome in life is a product of their own shortcomings, regardless of whether they have received any meaningful support along the way. There is a third way that keeps the individual at its center while relying on mediating institutions to guide and support young people.
In this special episode, Ian discusses his new book, “Agency.” At each juncture of Ian’s career, he noticed that young people, in addition to absorbing a cultural narrative that devastated their chances of success, were growing up in communities with high concentrations of fragile families, lack of school choice, declines in religiosity, and significant unemployment.
Rowe fully acknowledges the reality of societal barriers in disadvantaged communities. That’s why, in addition to a personal conviction in their own potential, kids need to embrace four building blocks that will lead to a life of human flourishing: Family, Religion, Education, and Entrepreneurship (F.R.E.E.).
Resources
• Agency | Ian Rowe | Templeton Press
• Agency: A Book Event with Ian Rowe and Yuval Levin | American Enterprise Institute
• Critical Race Theory Distracts from Widespread Academic Underachievement | Ian Rowe | Newsweek
Show Notes
• 02:55 | July 11, 2016: The moment Ian realized schools were not enough
• 08:55 | Young people are trapped between two harmful narratives
• 11:30 | Agency: The force of your free will guided by moral discernment
• 13:25 | Breaking down the F.R.E.E. framework
• 25:50 | F.R.E.E. is universal and timeless
• 28:30 | This book is for anybody who has the ability to shape the moral character of young people
In public schools across the country, “circle conversations“—where teachers ask personal questions of their students—is just the latest example of American classrooms focusing on everything but academic instruction. Should American teachers remain purely educators or evolve into something akin to therapists?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Daniel Buck, a Senior Visiting Fellow at the Fordham Institute, teacher, and author of an upcoming book on the philosophy of education. Daniel explains how teacher training now focuses on restorative justice ostensibly as a way to create more “safe spaces” for students. Instead, these practices have led to an uptick in bullying, classroom disruption, and more time in suspension, as well as less time devoted to reading and doing math. Daniel is encouraged by the recent surge in local activism among parents who want schools to prioritize teaching. But he worries that some critics may overplay their hand by accusing teachers of “grooming.”
Resources:
• ‘Community Circle’ Classroom Fad is Likely to Do More Harm Than Good | Daniel Buck | New York Post
• In Defense of Suspensions | Daniel Buck | Fordham Institute
• Not Everyone’s on Board with Turning Schooling into Therapy | Robert Pondiscio | Fordham Institute
• The Pedagogy of the Depressed | Robert Pondiscio | Fordham Institute
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Suicide rates in adolescents have tripled since the start of the pandemic, and 1 in 5 kids will not make it out of their childhood without a severe mental disorder. How should we address this mental health crisis to better prepare children for adolescence?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Erica Komisar, a clinical social worker, psychoanalyst, and author of Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the Age of Anxiety. Erica explains how children experienced intense losses and periods of neglect and sometimes abuse during the pandemic, on top of the typical challenges already associated with growing up. While parents should ideally play a primary role in their child’s wellbeing, Erica believes K-12 schools are not doing enough to help children. She advocates for each child to receive thirty minutes of therapy per week from social workers in order to provide the foundation of emotional security that kids need for future independence and self-sufficiency.
Resources:
• Five Steps Schools Can Take Now to Boost Youth Mental Health | Erica Komisar | Institute for Family Studies
• Many Teens Report Emotional and Physical Abuse by Parents During Lockdown | Ellen Barry | New York Times
Show notes:
• 01:35 | Covid-19 has amplified preexisting youth mental health issues
• 05:45 | How do we draw the line between the role that parents and schools have in children’s lives?
• 08:00 | Schools should have armies of social workers
• 16:45 | Kids are going into adolescence more neurologically fragile
• 19:10 | We treat young children as if they’re older and a project a sense of independence that they’re not prepared for
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Starting in the late 20th century, Scandinavian countries began opening up parental leave for fathers, with Norway eventually establishing at least four weeks of parental leave for fathers alone. This approach has now caught on throughout the post-industrialized world. How have these policies affected family bonding and the well-being of children?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Kay Hymowitz, the William E. Simon Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor of City Journal. Kay explains that the goal of these policies was to create more gender equality by allowing women a quicker return to the workforce. In reality, mothers remained taking care of the children, and the attempt to re-order gender relations has only confirmed the existence of the natural differences between mothers and fathers.
Resources:
• What we know about paternity leave | Kay Hymowitz | Institute for Family Studies
• Mom genes: Inside the new science of our ancient maternal instinct | Abigail Tucker | Gallery Books
Show notes:
• 00:45 | The history of paternity leave
• 02:40 | The “use it or lose it” approach
• 10:20 | Who pays for these expansive paternity leave policies?
• 13:55 | Acknowledging that women have a unique bond with their child
• 18:25 | Bureaucratic efforts to redefine gender roles
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Controversial ideologies about race and gender are making their way into K-12 classrooms. This kind of watered-down Marxism—in which everyone is designated either oppressed or oppressor—is at odds with the longstanding American principles of equality. How should school choice advocates respond to these harmful developments?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Jay P. Greene, senior research fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Education Policy. He describes the history of the education reform movement, including the point at which he believes the leaders lost the chance at having more support among the American public. He outlines why a focus on equity and social justice has prevented a bipartisan coalition for education reform from forming. Now, he argues we should focus on a new education reform movement, one that appeals to all families who are displeased with current trends in K-12 schools.
Resources:
• Time for the school choice movement to embrace the culture war | Jay P. Greene | The Heritage Foundation
• Does school choice need bipartisan support? An empirical analysis of the legislative record | Jay P. Greene and James D. Paul | American Enterprise Institute
• How responsive are researchers to the education policy agenda? Trends in education research from 2005 to 2019 | Jay P. Greene and Frederick M. Hess | American Enterprise Institute
Show notes:
• 02:05 | Education reform is doing great but the movement is dead
• 05:05 | What was the turning point for the education reform movement?
• 17:30 | Charter schools are reliant on others to open, which has led to an education system favored by progressive elites
• 20:00 | How do we broaden the appeal of school choice?
• 24:10 | The new watered-down Marxism that is infiltrating our institutions
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Changing the names of schools, instituting race-based affinity groups, and eliminating standardized tests are just a few of the actions that woke boards of education across the country are taking in pursuit of equity. The result is that schools are now focused on everything but academic instruction.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Nicole Neily, president and founder of Parents Defending Education (PDE). She says that lawsuits in places like northern Virginia and the suburbs of Boston, not to mention the school board recall in San Francisco, signify that even liberal progressives are fed up with performative wokeness that favors optics over outcomes. Nicole believes this movement of parental power is just getting started, and she encourages parents to continue pushing for transparency when it comes to their child’s education.
Resources:
• Judge calls Thomas Jefferson High admissions changes illegal | Hannah Natanson | Washington Post
• Parents prevail over K-12 ‘bias incidents’ | The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board
• In landslide, San Francisco forces out 3 board of education members | Thomas Fuller | The New York Times
• Power to parents | Deseret News | Ian Rowe
• Parents Defending Education resources
Show notes:
• 02:26 | What is PDE and what recent lawsuits have they been involved with?
• 08:20 | Elite programs aren’t helpful if students are not properly prepared to succeed
• 12:15 | The San Francisco school board recall reflect the sentiments of parents across the county?
• 15:30 | Breaking down the PDE’s lawsuit against Wellesley Public Schools
• 18:40 | Can the parental power movement sustain over time?
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The recently stalled Build Back Better legislation contains $110 billion for universal pre-school for three and four-year-olds. Is a large investment in early childhood education universal pre-k necessary or beneficial for the academic and social development of American children?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Katharine B. Stevens, founder and acting CEO of the Center on Child and Family Policy and former director of AEI’s early childhood program. Katharine breaks down new data from a randomized controlled trial studying 3,000 children from pre-k to sixth grade in Tennessee. The study revealed that students who did not attend pre-k displayed higher academic performance and were less likely to have disciplinary infractions than their peers who went to pre-k. Research on child development tells us that young kids need consistent, loving, one on one or small group relationships—factors that are often absent from public school pre-k programs. Katharine explains the need to support other ways of nurturing the development of these children, including family stability.
Resources:
• Effects of a statewide pre-kindergarten program on children’s achievement and behavior through sixth grade | Kevin Durkin et al | American Psychological Association
• Universal Child Care: A Bad Deal For Kids? | Jenet Erickson and Katharine B. Stevens | Institute for Family Studies
• Improving early childhood development by allowing advanced child tax credits | Katharine B. Stevens and Matt Weidinger | Tax Notes Federal
Show Notes:
• 01:00 | What is the Tennessee Voluntary Pre-K research project?
• 08:55 | How should policymakers respond to the results from the study?
• 13:30 | Thinking of school as an antipoverty program doesn’t benefit everyone
• 17:20 | Human development really comes from strong and stable families
• 30:00 | How do we encourage more people to follow the success sequence?
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Twenty years ago, education reformers on the right and left agreed that promoting charter schools and school choice were appropriate steps to close the achievement gap and improve kids’ educational outcomes. Today, feelings among the reformers about school choice are a lot more polarized. Moreover, the recent shutdowns of many schools during the pandemic may have jeopardized Americans’ decades-long relationship with public schools and shown that education is smack in the middle of the political fray.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Robert Pondiscio, a Senior Fellow in education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. Robert argues that we may not need bipartisan support for school choice and if the left-wing reformers have abandoned important ideas about accountability and meritocracy in our schools, they may do more to harm than help the movement. Encouraging private school choice and vouchers fits better in red-state politics and Republicans should not wait around trying to save a previously bipartisan coalition that may have outlived its usefulness.
Resources:
Does school choice need bipartisan support? An empirical analysis of the legislative record | Jay P. Green | James D. Paul | American Enterprise Institute
The Left doesn’t like school choice. The Right doesn’t need them to | Robert Pondiscio | RealClearPolicy
Demystifying Goliath: An Examination of the Political Compass of Education Reform | Ian Kingsbury | Journal of School Choice
Show notes:
• 01:05 | What is the landscape of education reform two years into the pandemic?
• 05:40 | Do everyday parents share the same ideology as progressive ‘elites’ when it comes to school choice?
• 07:20 | How has the left changed its stance on education reform specifically regarding the school choice movement?
• 15:00 | Has the personal connection between parents and school systems become broken?
• 17:50 | What is the impact of groups like Parents Defending Education when it comes to stopping ideologies they don’t share?
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There are over 70,000 adoptions of children in the United States every year, with a majority coming from foster care. Despite adoptions being more diverse and 75% of adoptive parents having a positive relationship with the birth parents, some are calling for adoption to end because it is too traumatic for children.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Ryan Hanlon, the acting CEO and President of the National Council for Adoption. Ryan explains that many children have experienced abuse and neglect prior to their adoption and adoption itself can actually be a necessary intervention in their lives. Research from the National Council for Adoption also suggests that adoptive parents are focused on ensuring their adoptive children receive the supportive services they need. With higher rates of children in foster care, Ryan believes we need to do a better job of educating both expectant parents on what their options are and the public on what being an adoptive parent looks like.
Resources:
Adoption: By the Numbers | National Council for Adoption
The Multiethnic Placement Act and Transracial Adoption 25 Years Later | Department of Health and Human Services
Let’s restart the adoption movement | Arthur C. Brooks | The New York Times
Show notes:
01:30 | What does adoption look like in the United States?
05:50 | Effects of adoption on children
09:30 | What explains the increased age of adoptive children?
13:40 | Evidence shows that transracial adoption is not a factor in determining the well-being of an adopted child
18:35 | Are there enough families out there to meet the needs of children in foster care?
26:25 | What can policymakers do to encourage foster care among middle-class Americans?
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Young people who graduate from high school, get a job, and get married before they have children are less likely to live in poverty later in life. Given the importance of this information, some have suggested that this ordering of milestones—known as “the success sequence”—be taught in K-12 schools.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Nat Malkus, a senior fellow and deputy director of education policy at AEI. Using data from the August 2021 American Perspectives Survey, which asked over 2,500 American adults about a range of opinions on education, Nat finds overwhelming support among the public for teaching the success sequence. He argues that schools should not only teach students the success sequence but also how to “think statistically” so students can understand the relationship between their actions and their life outcomes.
Resources:
Uncommonly popular: Public support for teaching the success sequence in school | Nat Malkus | American Enterprise Institute
Creating an Opportunity Society | Ron Haskins and Isabel V. Sawhill | Brookings Institution Press
How can the success sequence help kids beat any obstacle? | Ian Rowe and Chris Stewart | Education is Power podcast
Show notes:
01:10 | What is the success sequence and what does this new survey ask?
04:00 | Survey samples include the general public and parents of school-aged children
06:40 | Even the most opposed group were in support of teaching the success sequence by a two to one margin
09:25 | Prescriptive vs. descriptive messaging
14:15 | Non-adherents to the success sequence still support teaching it
Description:
In March 2021, the California Department of Education approved the final version of the ethnic Studies Model Curriculum. In October 2021, Governor Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill No. 101 into law, making California the first state to require an ethnic studies class for graduation.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Dr. Wenyuan Wu, executive director of the Californians for Equal Rights Foundation. Dr. Wu explains that, while seemingly benign, the objective of ethnic studies is to train K-12 students to recognize which of them are natural oppressors and victims. Students are required to recite Aztec chants in class, including some by tribes who practice human sacrifice.
This ideology has also infiltrated mathematics. The new math instruction is to teach it in a way that avoids finding the right answer and having to show one’s work, as those are signs of white supremacy. We discuss the recent letter signed by prominent mathematicians and scientists across the country objecting to this change.
Resources:
California Ethnic Studies curriculum
California Assembly Bill No. 101
California Mathematics framework
Open letter to California Gov. Gavin Newsom
California leftists try to cancel math class | Williamson M. Evers | The Wall Street Journal
Show notes:
• 02:05 | What is the California Ethnic Studies curriculum and AB 101?
• 04:40 | What are students learning under this curriculum?
• 06:35 | Ethnic studies has previously ignored various groups’ contributions to America
• 09:00 | Are Californians aware of what is going on in their schools?
• 13:35 | The new math framework focuses more on equity than learning algebra
• 19:40 | The compelling alternative that will actually help students
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A student in Boston public schools recently knocked her principal unconscious during school hours. A girl was recently sexually assaulted in a Loudon County, Virginia, school, and administrators falsely denied knowledge of its occurrence. What is causing an increase in school violence and how can administrators use their resources to improve school safety and students’ lives?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Max Eden, a research fellow in education policy at the American Enterprise Institute. Max explains that the push for restorative justice in schools—trying to even out disparate rates of discipline by race or disability—has actually led to school administrators not disciplining students at all. They ignore important factors like family structure, poverty, and neighborhood crime, which are highly correlated with different rates of behavioral infractions in school. Max believes that we are at the beginning of a broader public recognition of the dangerous impact of restorative justice policies and the need for parents to exercise more oversight over their kids’ school environments.
Resources:
Boston Public Schools principal unconscious for ‘at least’ 4 minutes after beating: police report | Sean Phillip Cotter | Boston Herald
Restorative justice cannot combat the tide of school violence | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Deseret News
Youngkin makes the GOP the parents’ party | Max Eden | The Wall Street Journal
Show Notes:
• 03:15 | Are parents noticing the lack of school discipline?
• 05:30 | The limits of public policy when only viewing the world through race
• 10:10 | The importance of parental involvement in schools
• 13:35 | How do you have a productive conversation with school administrators and those on the ground who disagree with you on this issue?
• 16:35 | Is there a way to elevate student’s voices who now feel they are in a more dangerous learning environment?
• 18:50 | How can we rehabilitate kids using a different approach?
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The child tax credit (CTC) in the United States has always required its recipients to work. Yet the recent proposal from the Biden administration eliminates the work requirement in the CTC. Ensuring that parents earn a small amount of money benefits kids and helps lift families out of poverty. How can we ensure our policies align with what’s best for kids?
In this special episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Robert Doar, President and Morgridge scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. Robert explains that from 1995 until 2020, our country made strides to bring more people into the labor force, increase positive educational outcomes, and improve children’s relationship with the criminal justice system. But our child welfare and public school systems need to be reformed to ensure that they are focused on helping children.
Resources:
The bad science behind the child tax credit expansion | Robert Doar | The Wall Street Journal
The antipoverty, targeting, and labor supply effects of the proposed child tax credit expansion | Bruce D. Meyer and Kevin Corinth | Becker Friedman Institute
Census Bureau’s household pulse survey shows significant increase in homeschooling rates in fall 2020 | Casey Eggleston and Jason Fields | United States Census Bureau
Enrollment in N.Y.C. public schools declined by 50,000 since the start of the pandemic | Eliza Shapiro | The New York Times
Show Notes
• 01:45 | The history of child tax credits (CTC) and the new CTC proposal
• 03:35 | The National Academy of Sciences made an important error
• 07:30 | Why are we forcing single parents to work at all?
• 10:45 | Are we getting better at caring for low-income children?
• 16:35 | People don’t want to hear viewpoints they disagree with
• 18:00 | Is it possible to create a system for children where everyone is satisfied?
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For decades, women have increasingly outnumbered men in higher education and the problem is getting worse. Men—generally speaking—prefer to work rather than go to school. Yet more traditional, blue-collar jobs now require advanced degrees.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Kay Hymowitz, the William E. Simon Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor of City Journal. Kay explains how this trend has not been considered problematic because society is used to thinking about furthering the progress of girls in higher education. She outlines how “degree inflation” is turning into a big problem for young men. To encourage more boys to stay in school and get the skills they need, she suggests that K-12 education should provide career pathways for those not wanting to attend college, and that they build in more time for recess.
Resources:
Dr. Biden’s lesson | Kay Hymowitz | City Journal
A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’ | Douglas Belkin | The Wall Street Journal
Higher education just isn’t built for men right now | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Deseret News
Show Notes:
• 02:20 | Since 1980, women have moved ahead of men in higher education enrollment
• 06:25 | What are the men doing if they are not in school?
• 08:30 | Traditional blue collar jobs are now requiring four-year degrees
• 12:55 | What can be done in K-12 education?
• 16:20 | Going to college is now synonymous with middle-class life
• 20:35 | What will the impact be on future family structure?
Description:
Educational institutions are supposed to serve the interests of children and their families. Yet parents are increasingly finding themselves coming up against a system that is turned against them. In some instances, they are even labeled by the National School Board Association as "domestic terrorists" for simply voicing their opinion.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Christine Rosen, a senior writer at Commentary magazine and chair of the Colloquy on Knowledge, Technology and Culture at the Institute for Advanced Studies and Culture at the University of Virginia. Christine explains that school boards passing emergency use restrictions combined with an ideological push to teach critical race theory in schools has led many parents—conservative and liberal—to come together in an effort to change school policies.
Resources:
Will parents become activists? | Christine Rosen | Commentary
Academic transparency is gaining traction in the states | Max Eden | AEIdeas
Description:
The American child welfare system is bent toward protecting adults, not children. Kids in danger are treated instrumentally to promote the rehabilitation of their parents, the welfare of their communities, and the social justice of their race and tribe—all with the inevitable result that their most precious developmental years are lost in bureaucratic and judicial red tape.
In this special episode, Naomi discusses her new book, “No Way to Treat a Child.” She explains how the driving policy of the child welfare system today is family preservation, even when remaining with biological parents poses a risk to their safety. She advocates for civil society to play a greater role in child welfare and emphasizes the need for increased support for foster families. And she encourages states to do a better job recruiting and training caseworkers and utilizing data analytics to better understand which kids are most at-risk.
Resources:
No Way to Treat a Child | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Bombardier Books
How the woke takeover of child services endangers abused kids | Naomi Schaefer Riley | New York Post
Description:
Oregon Governor Kate Brown recently signed a law eliminating the requirement that high school graduates be able to demonstrate an ability to read, do math, and write at a high school level. Proponents of the law claim it would promote “equitable graduation standards” that will benefit Oregon’s students of color.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Rick Hess, a Senior Fellow and director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. Rick explains that schools across the country have an obligation to ensure that all of our children—no matter their socioeconomic background or race and ethnicity—have the basic skills for successful citizenship. He also observes that just two decades ago, policymakers on both sides believed that we were not doing low-income or minority students any favors by ignoring educational deficiencies.
Resources:
When educational equity descends into educational nihilism | Rick Hess | Education Week
Aim high: How can we prepare students of all races to achieve greatness? | Ian Rowe | Eduwonk
Show notes:
00:55 | What is Senate Bill 744 in Oregon?
03:30 | There used to be a bipartisan consensus in education
04:35 | How would Governor Brown explain this policy?
06:45 | Mediocrity in education is painless in the short-term but devastating in the long-term
12:45 | Which educational institutions are upholding legitimate academic standards?
15:05 | School boards still have a voice in shaping curriculums
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Prior to 1972, putting up a child for adoption did not require the consent of an unmarried father. Despite a Supreme Court case changing the law, many birth fathers are still unaware that they must register on a putative father registry in order to have input in their child’s future.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Ericka Andersen, a freelance writer, digital marketing professional, and host of the podcast Worth Your Time. Ericka explains that the historical background prior to 1972 combined with the unfair stereotype associated with birth fathers often results in the birth mother alone making the decisions for her child. Ericka notes that most people are just as curious about and in need of a relationship with their birth father as they are their birth mother, but they rarely have access to the necessary information to make those connections.
Resources:
Bringing birth fathers back into adoption narratives | Ericka Andersen | Christianity Today
Sorry, Harvard, fathers still matter—including Black fathers | Ian Rowe and Brad Wilcox | USA
Show notes:
01:25 | Why are birth fathers typically not involved in the adoption story?
03:20 | How do we make sure birth fathers are involved in the adoption process?
06:15 | Giving birth fathers a voice would be better for everyone
08:55 | Keeping the best interests of the child in mind when the birth father shouldn’t be involved
10:50 | Why does the putative father registry differ by state?
14:45 | The role of religious institutions in the adoption process
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Every year, 23,000 children will age out of the foster care system without a loving family to take care of them. How can child welfare agencies, government, and public policy help these kids achieve upward mobility and ensure that they learn the important skills needed to have a successful life?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Tim Keller, Senior Vice President and Legal Director at Gen Justice, an organization based in Arizona dedicated to fighting for foster care children at the federal and state level. Tim shares Gen Justice’s proposal to establish fostering independence accounts—a state-funded initiative that provides financial support to kids if they are willing to stay in the foster care system and accept guidance on everything from education and job training to housing and financial literacy courses. Finally, Tim also speaks to the importance of prioritizing the needs of the child when thinking about child welfare.
Resources:
Cash accounts can help youth aging out of foster care succeed | Gen Justice
Foster care agencies take thousands of dollars owed to kids. Most children have no idea | Eli Hager | The Marshall Project and NPR
Show Notes:
01:50 | What is the average profile for a kid who ages out of foster care?
05:00 | What are fostering independence accounts and how do they work?
08:35 | The risks associated with the new California Universal Basic Income law
12:00 | Should the focus be on supplying cash assistance or life skills to kids who age out of foster care?
18:45 | Thinking about a child-centric view of child welfare
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The way we frame conversations about race has significant implications for future education policies. Talking about “achievement gaps” draws attention solely to the differences between white and black students, which can perpetuate racial stereotypes. Maybe framing the issue as an “opportunity gap” instead would encourage us to consider policies that promote equity and excellence for all.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by David Quinn, Assistant Professor of Education at the Rossier School of Education at the University of Southern California. Professor Quinn discusses the value of focusing on opportunity gaps instead of achievement gaps. He also notes the importance of recognizing historical injustices while at the same time understanding the importance of agency in the advancement of learning.
Resources:
Experimental effects of “achievement gap” news reporting on viewers’ racial stereotypes, inequality explanations, and inequality prioritization | David Quinn |Journal of Educational and Behavioral Statistics
Distance to 100 for everyone vs. closing racial or achievement gaps | Ian Rowe | Eduwonk
Show notes:
00:45 | Problems with the “achievement gap discourse”
06:00 | Framing the issue as an “opportunity gap”
13:20 | Reports on racial test score gaps magnified racial stereotypes
14:50 | Thinking about racial equity in terms of justice
28:30 | The importance of agency for the advancement of learning
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Families are increasingly finding themselves trapped in a whirlwind of competition for their kids. From rigorous sports clubs to the college admissions process, parents are forced to concentrate more on what everyone else is doing as opposed to what is best for their family. This unhealthy dynamic has led to a decline in civic associations and other institutions that are critical for community and human development. How can parents better adapt to these changing times and attempt to rewrite the social contract?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Matt Feeney, author of "Little Platoons: A Defense of Family in a Competitive Age." Matt discusses how a harmful culture of competition is causing children to miss out on key developmental milestones and skills needed for a successful life. Matt notes the importance of school counselors and parents working together to combat unhealthy incentives.
Resources:
Sports Families: The Hungry System of Club Sports | Matt Feeney | Institute for Family Studies
Bread and circuses: The replacement of American community life | Lyman Stone | American Enterprise Institute
Show Notes:
00:35 | What are “Little Platoons” and how does this concept shape our understanding of the family?
06:55 | Why parents are reluctant participants in a hyper-competitive environment
09:20 | What is lost in the lives of kids by our cultural obsession over sports and extracurriculars?
11:45 | Why the college admissions process is interfering in the moral autonomy of the family
15:20 | How can parents push back against these harmful incentives?
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The New York legislature has just passed a law that could bring $350 million of tax revenues to the state each year from marijuana sales. While the short-term benefits may be appealing, it Governor Cuomo and his lawmakers have not considered the far-reaching ramifications of such a law. The passage of this and other similar laws across the nation call into question several items: What has happened to bourgeois virtues such as honesty, integrity, temperance, and delayed gratification in our nation? What role does the government have in maintaining those values? If that is not their role, what is?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Howard Husock, an adjunct fellow alongside them at American Enterprise Institute studying local government, civil society, and urban housing policy. Referencing one of his recent columns, Howard discusses how the passage of laws that enable and even encourage drug use undermines the bourgeois values that contribute to a productive and healthy society. Howard notes that, far too often, government officials are followers of public trends rather than leaders who advocate for proven, constructive values.
Resources:
Government against bourgeois values | Howard Husock | City Journal
Albany’s shameless weed bribe will hurt the poor | Howard Husock | New York Daily News
Show notes:
01:00 | What are the bourgeois virtues?
02:50 | The unintended consequences of collecting revenue from marijuana taxes
07:15 | Will marijuana laws create new “dry” and “wet” towns?
10:10 | Why do legislators continue to enable drug use?
13:20 | Government as peoples’ problem solver
17:00 | With the widespread decline of religious institutions, how can seemingly lost virtues be reinforced going forward?
A good education is a ticket to a good life, and high-quality mathematics instruction is growing rapidly in importance. However, an increasingly loud line of rhetoric threatens to weaken our public schools’ standards for high-quality mathematics programs. For example, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has supported a math curriculum taking the position that white supremacy is furthered by objectivity in mathematics. Will this divisive and demoralizing new approach offer any improvements to children’s learning?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Ben Chavis, the former principal of the American Indian Public Charter School in Oakland, California. There, he transformed a school on the brink of closure into one of the top schools in the country. Ben credits this incredible turnaround to an undying focus on what really matters: academic rigor. He confronts the ideas and policies that may be detracting from the quality of learning in our nation’s schools and offers an alternate view on how we can revitalize math education in the US.
Resources:
Math Camp in a Barn: Intensive Instruction, No-Nonsense Discipline | Naomi Schaefer Riley | The Wall Street Journal
Show notes:
02:28 | How can white supremacy show up in math classes that are focused on objectivity?
04:38 | Math as a key for upward mobility for students from disadvantaged backgrounds
09:50 | Confronting the idea that objectivity of math is racist, and so are the people teaching it
12:25 | Why the importance of math to professional success is ignored
16:28 | How to diversify schools without a quota system
22:03 | The role that math camps and extracurricular activities play in students’ success
25:47 | How to improve math programs in the public school system
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In the 1978, the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) became law — institutionalizing a sweeping set of race-based restrictions over how child welfare systems can treat Indian children. While the law was passed with the noble intent of protecting Native American cultures, its effects have been devastating, halting the protection of children in countless dangerous situations. Why is ICWA so harmful to children? How can lawmakers address the shortcomings of this law while supporting the preservation of Native American cultures? What is the likelihood the courts will strike down ICWA as unconstitutional for discriminating on the basis of race?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Timothy Sandefur, vice president for litigation at the Goldwater Institute and an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute. Timothy discusses the history of ICWA, the current crisis of unaddressed maltreatment among Indian children, and recent court decisions that give him hope that leaders are beginning to recognize the unconstitutionality of many provisions in this law.
Resources:
The Indian Child Welfare Act: A law that paved the way for a 5-year-old’s death | Naomi Schaefer Riley | USA Today
Native American foster children suffer under a law originally meant to help them | Elizabeth Stuart | Phoenix New Times
Show notes:
01:08 | Why the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) was passed in the 1970s and how it has shaped the child welfare system
07:00 | Is ICWA constitutional given its basis on race?
10:00 | The recent decision of the Fifth Circuit of Appeals to strike down the “active efforts” provision of ICWA
12:35 | The crisis of abuse among Indian children and the real-life implications of ICWA for these kids
17:20 How we can protect Indian children and also preserve the integrity of Native American culture
20:45 | Will the Supreme Court review ICWA in the near future?
24:05 | Does ICWA deter foster and adoptive families from trying to take care of Indian children?
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Conversations about polyamory, same-sex parenting, and other alternative family arrangements have received increased national attention in recent years. But so often, these discussions focus primarily on the interests and desires of adults and pay very little attention to the wellbeing of children. What factors should serve as the impetus for change in policy and culture around child welfare? How should we balance the desires of adults with the needs of children when making decisions about the type of family a child will be raised in?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Katy Faust, author of “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement,” and founder of an advocacy organization with the same title. Katy discusses why her organization is advancing a child-centered approach to parenting, adoption, and child welfare. She outlines her conclusions from quantitative research and the stories of children and adults looking back on their childhood about the type of family arrangement that is best suited to help kids flourish, and the implications that has for public policy.
Show notes:
01:15 | The child-centered approach to child welfare and adoption Katy Faust is advocating
05:50 | What does it mean for children to have natural rights, independent of the desires and interests of adults?
10:20 | Why, in the world of children’s rights, adults must do hard things
12:40 | The importance of storytelling in the fight for children’s rights
14:05 | The data show that any family structure other than a child living with their two biological parents leads to worse outcomes for children
21:50 | Why “Them Before Us” seeks to change both hearts and laws
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A professor at Georgetown Law School was recently fired for remarks she made during a private zoom call about the academic performance of black students at Georgetown — raising several questions about the nature of and potential solutions to racial disparities in higher education. What are the root causes of racial disparities in schools? How much freedom should professors and administrators be given to explore explanations of disparities that move beyond institutional racism? Should objective measurements of performance — such as standardized tests — be abolished?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by University of Pennsylvania law professor Amy Wax to discuss these issues and more. Professor Wax offers her defense of academic standards, arguing that movements seeking to deny the root causes of disparities and attribute all differences to structural racism are threatening the integrity of higher education institutions.
Resources:
Pursuing Diversity: From Education to Employment | Amy L. Wax | The University of Chicago Law Review
Georgetown professor fired for statements about black students | Elizabeth Redden | Inside Higher Ed
Show notes:
00:45 | How one Georgetown professor was fired for private comments made over a zoom call, and Professor Wax’s own experience with cancel culture in higher education
03:45 | Should objective measures of performance be treated as suspect?
13:00 | The unavoidably comparative nature of law school
15:40 | Which early interventions can policymakers make to reduce racial disparities in academic achievement?
20:00 | How the crisis of family breakdown cuts across racial and ethnic lines today
26:00 | How the narrowing "Overton window" of acceptable beliefs on the cause of racial disparities today threatens the quality of our educational institutions
Description:
Foster youth today face incredible challenges building a stable life when they age out of the child welfare system. Fewer than ten percent ever graduate college, and tragic reports have outlined crises of homelessness and poverty among these young adults. But some foster youth have found healing and restoration through caring foster parents, a deeply embedded sense of personal agency, and connections to strong networks of support. We can learn a lot from the stories of these individuals about how to better serve young adults in foster care as they approach adulthood.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Justin and Alexis Black — Authors and founders of “Redefining Normal.” Alexis and Justin share their story of transformation as they escaped a past of abuse, neglect, and trauma and began to build a future together, with the help of amazing foster parents, a strong faith, and a web of critical supports. Alexis and Justin defied the odds — graduating from college and becoming authors, public speakers, and serial entrepreneurs. Today, they have dedicated their career to building awareness around the challenges foster youth face and advocating for practices and policies that will help foster youth escape the cycle of trauma and find healing.
Resources:
Not safe for kids: Fixing our broken child welfare system | Naomi Schaefer Riley | American Enterprise Institute
Show notes:
03:10 | Justin and Alexis’s story growing up in foster care and the challenges they faced
08:10 | What does “normal” look like for a youth in foster care?
13:10 | How to support foster youth in healthy relationship formation and educational pursuits
16:55 | How giving foster youth a consistent and supportive place to call “home” empowers agency
18:20 | Reforming child welfare systems to help foster youth transition to adulthood
26:25 | Justin’s Rising Over Societal Expectations (ROSE) model for empowerment
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The tragic death of George Floyd has sparked many important conversations about how Americans can pursue a future characterized by unity and equality around race. Yet, amid this national reckoning on race, a divisive and disempowering philosophy of “antiracism” has risen to the forefront of American culture. Is the solution to America’s racial disparities continuously reifying race in rhetoric and public policy? What are the potential consequences of training our children to see race as the most important part of a human’s identity?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Thomas Chatterton Williams — AEI visiting fellow, contributing writer for the New York Times, and prolific author and cultural critic. Thomas shares why he believes Americans must work toward unlearning race — restoring a person’s character, interests, and beliefs at the core of their identity rather than the color of their skin. Later, Thomas discusses why the core tenets of “antiracist” ideologies inadvertently reinforce ideas of white superiority and black inferiority.
Resources:
Beyond Black History Month| Thomas Chatterton Williams | The Wall Street Journal
Moving from persecution to prosperity: Demystifying Black excellence | Ian Rowe, Thomas Chatterton Williams, and Glenn Loury | HBS African-American Alumni Association
Show notes:
01:15 | Thomas Chatterton Williams’ philosophy of “unlearning” race
05:40 | Why critical race theory inadvertently reinforces ideas of white superiority and black inferiority
08:17 | The importance of desegregating American life, and why “safetyism” threatens progress on this front
14:50 | Controversy around the capitalization of color descriptors and the problem with “performative” justice
17:40 | How to channel the collective “moral panic” of this moment for good
24:35 | How the Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism (FAIR) is helping parents stand up to schools that are segregating students and violating their rights
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Many child welfare systems have abdicated their duties in the wake of the pandemic — failing to identify and protect children who have fallen victim to maltreatment. How can child welfare officials inspire a different approach that increases touchpoints with children, uses the resources of caseworkers and foster families more effectively, and offers faster, better care coordination for vulnerable children? What role should technology companies play in collaborating with states to improve care coordination?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Greg McKay — the Director of Worldwide Health and Human Services for Microsoft and the former director of the Arizona Department of Child Safety — to discuss these questions and more. Greg talks about how his unique background in law enforcement, investigation, and foster parenting helped him take Arizona’s child welfare system from “worst” to “first” on several measures. Later, Greg discusses the importance of updating state care coordination and record-keeping technology to allow case workers to spend more time in the field with vulnerable children and less time entering data into antiquated systems.
Resources:
What lessons can the child welfare system take from the COVID-19 pandemic?| Naomi Schaefer Riley et Al. | American Enterprise Institute
Child welfare in the midst of the pandemic | Naomi Schaefer Riley et Al. | American Enterprise Institute
Show notes:
01:20 | Greg McKay’s background in law enforcement, investigation, foster parenting, child welfare administration, and technology
02:35 | Taking Arizona’s child welfare system from “worst” to “first”
07:16 | How antiquated technology is limiting case workers’ ability to protect children during the pandemic
08:58 | How the pandemic is reducing the number of abuse and maltreatment cases that get reported, and what that means for children
10:25 | Why children need to return to in-person learning
16:50 | The most effective intervention technology companies can offer child welfare officials
19:25 | Increasing partnership and care coordination between government systems
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Specialized high schools for gifted students are receiving a lot of criticism these days because many tend to admit a disproportionate number of white and Asian students. But for many of these schools, admissions is based primarily on an unbiased entrance exam. If black and Hispanic students are performing less successfully on these entrance exams, does that mean the exams themselves are racist or does it point to a deeper problem? What is the role of specialized high schools in American education today? How can these schools offer talented students from all backgrounds a fair shot at success? In this episode, Naomi and Ian take up these questions and more. They discuss how disparate admissions rates point to a fundamental failure of neighborhood schools to offer disadvantaged kids the chance at a good education. And they explain why school choice can help to address this root problem.
Resources:
Exam-school admissions come under pressure amid pandemic | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Education Next
Show notes:
00:30 | Why are specialized schools are coming under pressure?
01:30 | Are school admission tests equitable?
04:00 | Why neighborhood schools are failing to prepare disadvantaged students for success
09:20 | Can complicated admissions formulas actually create ‘affirmative action’ for white kids?
10:25 | What are the implications for school choice?
15:20 | How should school leaders move forward?
Over the past month, US family policy has captivated the attention of policymakers across the ideological spectrum. At the forefront of the family policy conversation: a universal child allowance. In early February 2021, Senator Mitt Romney proposed a sweeping plan to combine several tax credits and the major US cash welfare program into a universal child allowance, paid in cash to families on a monthly basis. Democrats responded with a plan of their own that would introduce a slightly smaller child allowance, but keep other federal benefits intact. How would a universal child allowance affect child poverty in the US? Does this policy hold fast to the conservative tradition of pursuing “temporary, targeted, and timely” federal supports?
Joining Naomi and Ian in this episode is AEI Rowe Scholar in poverty studies Angela Rachidi. She discusses the history of poverty alleviation programs in the US, the potential unintended consequences of a child allowance, and the policy agenda of a new “pro-natalist” movement on the right focused on removing barriers that prevent Americans from having the number of children they desire. Later, Ian, Naomi, and Angela explore means-tested “baby bonds” as a potential alternative to the child allowance.
Show Notes:
03:50 | Child allowance proposals on the Left and Right
04:40 | Key differences between Romney proposal and Democrat’s policy
06:45 | A return to pre-1996 welfare
10:30 | Why send cash to high income families?
14:05 | Pro-natalist case for a child allowance
16:30 | Ideal fertility vs. actual fertility rates; what are the tradeoffs?
19:05 | What about means-tested “baby bonds?”
22:20 | Will a child allowance proposal become law in the near future?
Resources :
Fix family poverty with free markets, for once | Naomi Schaefer Riley and Angela Rachidi | Reason
How would a child allowance affect employment? | Angela Rachidi | AEIdeas
Romney’s child allowance proposal would eliminate decades of anti-poverty progress | Angela Rachidi | RealClearPolicy
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Title IX was first implemented in the 1960s to rectify discrimination against women on the basis of sex in institutions receiving federal funding. In what can only be described as one of the quickest shifts in American culture, women began to outperform men in both enrollment and success in higher education. What role should Title IX play in promoting equal opportunity today? Are woke colleges and universities misconstruing the original intent of this rule and unlawfully discriminating against men? How does Title VI — a counterpart to Title IX that prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, and national origin — fit into the picture?
In this episode, Mark Perry, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, joins Naomi and Ian to discuss the history of Title IX and Title VI and to highlight concerning trends that now threaten the original intent of these rules to ensure equal opportunity. Mark has filed 300 Title IX complaints with the office for civil rights, resulting in 144 federal investigations for violations of civil rights laws and more than 30 resolutions in his favor.
Resources:
Do our woke universities live up to their own values? | Mark J. Perry | Carpe Diem
The year in review: An update on my efforts to challenge Title IX violations in higher education and advance civil rights for all | Mark J. Perry | Carpe Diem
Show Notes:
01:05 | What are Title IX and Title VI, and how are they supposed to function?
03:40 | Women outperforming men in higher education
08:30 | Can you use disparities to justify discrimination at an institutional level?
10:10 | How will the new Biden-Harris administration respond to Title IX discrimination?
12:00 | How does Title IX impact single-sex programs?
19:15 | Is discrimination leaving boys behind in education and job preparedness?
For decades, the NCAA’s Academic Performance Program has sought to hold colleges across the country accountable to provide a quality education to their student-athletes. Yet, today, this program has come under fire for the way it treats historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). Is it racist to hold HBCUs to the same academic standards as other colleges? What role should institutions of higher education play in serving the long-term interests of their athletes? In this episode, Johnny Taylor Jr.—president and CEO of the Society for Human Resource Management—joins Naomi and Ian to discuss this issue and more. Johnny is an expert on issues pertaining to HBCUs. He used to lead the Thurgood Marshall College Fund—a non-profit organization supporting more than 300,000 students at HBCUs. Johnny notes that a vast majority of student athletes—even those from top-tier athletic schools—never go on to play professional sports, and academic standards are an essential method of holding colleges accountable to prepare their student-athletes for career success.
Later, Naomi, Ian and Johnny discuss why HBCUs continue to provide critical pathways to upward mobility for young black men and women who might otherwise miss out on opportunities for higher education. They also examine recent unsolicited donations from Mackenzie Scott and discuss why it will be important for additional support of these institutions to hold colleges accountable to allocate funding toward value-adding improvements.
Time stamps:
00:58 | What is the Academic Performance Program and why is it coming under fire?
06:22 | How do we understand claims of systemic racism in the NCAA?
08:55 | Should we be investing more resources into HBCU’s?
11:00 | What is the ‘Value Proposition’ of HBCU Institutions?
17:35 | The recent renaissance of HBCUs with notable graduates like Stacey Abrams, Raphael Warnock and Kamala Harris.
Schools across the country have begun to adopt practices around teaching and enforcing “woke” principles that raise concerns about the rights and wellbeing of children. In some instances, students are required to publically declare their support or opposition to certain ideologies and “corrected” later if their answers are not satisfactory. Are schools overstepping their bounds and infringing on students’ rights? How can educators generate healthy and productive conversations on race?
Joining Naomi and Ian in this episode is Bonnie Snyder, the High School Outreach Fellow at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). Bonnie shares her efforts with FIRE to produce a manuscript called “Undoctrinate,” which seeks to provide educators the necessary tools to promote free and constructive conversations in schools. Later, they share encouraging news about the success of the “1776 Unites” project’s high school curriculum, which presents a more complete and authentic approach to American history, recognizing both America’s legacy of slavery and the remarkable accomplishments of black Americans in the face of oppression.
Resources:
My kids and their elite education in racism | Naomi Schaefer Riley | Commentary
1776 Unites Curriculum | “1776 Unites”
Elite Private School In L.A. Rolls Out New ‘Anti-Racism’ Policies — Some Students, Parents, And Alumni Aren’t Thrilled | Jon Brown | The Daily Wire
Show notes:
00:45 | What is happening in high schools around free speech and the “woke” sensibility?
02:00 | Concerning incidents of public humiliation
05:35 | What is FIRE doing to help parents and their students stand up to school overreach?
09:51 | How these efforts threaten the future of high school students
13:28 | Why the “1776 Unites” curriculum ican help schools promote free and constructive conservations about race and opportunity in America
17:40 | Crediting the “1619 Project” for raising an important discussion on the gaps in school curricula on American history
19:15 | How the legacy of the “Rosenwald schools” can inform an approach to build a brighter future for black Americans
In October 2020, the San Diego Unified School District board unanimously approved sweeping changes to the district’s grading system in an effort to become “anti-racist.” Among these changes: removing the requirement for all students to turn in their homework on time. Does altering the way students are graded really address the root problem of the achievement gap? How do “anti-racist” policies shape the way minority children view themselves? How will parents respond to this policy decision, given that California voters just struck down a state-wide referendum to allow affirmative action policies?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Nat Malkus, AEI Resident Scholar and Deputy Director of Education Policy Studies, to discuss the potential effects of San Diego’s new policy. Nat notes that schools are not just vehicles for transferring academic knowledge from teachers to students — they are supposed to prepare children to flourish in all areas of life. Accordingly, schools and teachers should encourage and reward hard work, consistent effort, and self-confidence, among other important character traits.
Resources:
The soft bigotry of anti-racist expectations is damaging to Black and white kids alike | Ian Rowe | USA Today
Time stamps:
01:25 | San Diego’s grading overhaul and growing “anti-racist” efforts in schools across the US.
03:30 | The importance of rewarding both mastery and character formation in schools.
06:45 | Studying students’ successes rather than their failures in order to identify ways to reduce disparities.
07:45 | Will changing a grading system really address the root causes of the achievement gap?
11:25 | School is about more than just learning academic material and earning a test score.
12:30 | How do “anti-racist” school policies affect the self-perception of minority students?
17:00 | California’s referendum on affirmative action and parents’ reaction to “anti-racist” policies.
James and Gail Blais were barred from fostering their one-year-old great-granddaughter due to their religious beliefs. During the foster parent application process, the Washington state government led the Blaises through hypothetical questions assessing how they would respond if their great-granddaughter were to identify as homosexual or transgender at some point in the future. As Seventh-Day Adventists, the Blaises said they would certainly continue to love the child, but they could not support the child’s decision in that circumstance. This raises an important question: can state governments deny foster applications due to the religious beliefs of potential foster parents?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Eugene Volokh, an expert in first amendment law and professor of law at UCLA, to explore how state adoption authorities can ensure the well-being of foster children while respecting the religious beliefs of prospective foster parents. Volokh notes that because the Blaises were applying to care for a relative, and the decision to deny their application was based on responses to hypothetical scenarios, this case signals a particularly concerning overreach by the Washington state government.
Resources:
Couple Barred from Fostering Their 1-Year-Old Great-Granddaughter Because of They Oppose Homosexuality and Gender Transitioning | Eugene Volokh | Reason
Show notes:
01:05 | Why did Washington's child welfare department deny the Blais’ foster application?
04:05 | How should we think about the boundaries the government places around foster parenting?
07:10 | Should foster agencies incorporate speculative scenarios in the decision-making process?
09:20 | Do people with non-religious conscientious objections have rights as well?
12:40 | How can foster agencies recruit the greatest volume of high-quality foster parents possible?
18:25 | Should the perspective of children’s biological parents be taken into account?
21:39 | Regardless of legality, is it prudent for the government to place its “hand on the scale” and emphasize one factor over all others when determining the fit of a foster family?
Much research demonstrates the academic benefits of school choice. But schools don’t just convey academic knowledge to children — they also play a critical role in developing a child’s social and moral life.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Patrick Wolf, professor of education policy at the University of Arkansas. They discuss a recent paper Wolf co-authored with AEI visiting scholar and UVA professor Brad Wilcox, exploring how enrollment in public, Catholic, Protestant, and secular private schools shapes children’s family outcomes later in life. The results suggest the moral ecologies of these different school types are powerfully linked to the family lives students will ultimately lead as they grow into adulthood. In other words, private schools — especially Protestant ones — may offer a clear advantage to children when it comes to family life.
Resources:
The Protestant family ethic | American Enterprise Institute
Private schools outpace public schools in putting kids on the path to marriage | NationalReview.com
Time stamps:
02:00 | Why did Wolf partner with Brad Wilcox to study the intersection of education and family life?
03:10 | Which schools put children at an advantage when it comes to family life?
06:45 | What are “moral ecologies” and why are they important?
10:35 | How do the moral messages Protestant and Catholic schools send to their students differ?
14:20 | What are the implications of these findings for public schools?
The Opioid epidemic has received a great deal of attention in the national media, but little has focused on how this tragic crisis is affecting children. New research suggests the drug crisis has torn at least 1.5 million children away from a parent since the mid-nineties. Such large disruptions to children’s living arrangements will have long-reaching impacts.
In this episode, Ian and Naomi are joined by Kasey Buckles, a professor of economics at the University of Notre Dame. She recently co-authored an important new study on the drug crisis and its effects on children. Dr. Buckles and her co-authors reveal that laws favoring OxyContin advertisement and prescriptions likely contributed to a rise in the number of children separated from their parents. As we continue to grapple with the drug crisis in this country, the evidence from this study suggests that our policies can have a strong impact on children’s well-being.
Resources:
The drug crisis and the living arrangements of children | National Bureau for Economic Research
Time Stamps:
01:05 | Key findings of the study
04:08 | How do the authors isolate the effects of the drug crisis, versus other causes?
09:55 | How did the drug crisis impact children of different races?
13:30 | Most important interventions to uplift child-wellbeing
14:15 | How the effects of this crisis extend beyond the foster care system
Startling pictures of starving, neglected, naked children were the first images seen by American parents after Ceaușescu’s communist dictatorship in Romania fell in the late 80s. But a well-intentioned rush to adopt these children led to difficulties for many Romanian children and their American parents, because families and adoption agencies did not fully understand the brain damage these children had incurred under squalor conditions in Romanian orphanages. How does a lack of personal affection shape a child’s development? Why are strong familial bonds so important?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Melissa Fay Greene, Kirk Distinguished Writer in Residence at Agnes Scott College, to discuss her recent Atlantic article on the wave of Romanian adoptees brought to the US in the 1980s. The lack of personal attachment experienced by these children caused severe impairments to their development, speaking to the critical importance of love for healthy child development.
Resources:
30 Years Ago, Romania Deprived Thousands of Babies of Human Contact | The Atlantic
Time stamps:
01:10 | Greene’s personal connection to adoption in Romania
03:50 | Discovering brain damage in the Romanian children due to lack of nurture in orphanages
05:15 | What happened when the adoptees went from scarcity to abundance in an American home?
10:45 | Importance of love and stability for child development
16:45 | How long can a child be without a nurturer?
It is good to fight against racism in schools and in the workplace. But a new wave of “anti-bias” trainings in public and private organizations are pushing a divisive and disempowering narrative surrounding race. Organizations ranging from local school districts to the Seattle government and the Treasury Department have singled out white employees for “anti-racism” trainings and engaged in humiliating practices that studies have shown to be ineffective.
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Christopher Rufo, director of the Discovery Institute’s Center on Wealth & Poverty, to discuss the impacts of critical race theory, a growing philosophy that seeks to distill a person’s identity to his or her race.
Resources:
The truth about critical race theory | The Wall Street Journal
Summary of critical race theory investigations | Christopherrufo.com
Time Stamps:
01:25 | How a public request led to uncovering divisive training sessions sponsored by the FBI, Treasury Department, NASA, and other core federal agencies
04:19 | The “weaponization” of anti-bias trainings
07:40 | Harvard study finds critical race theory anti-bias trainings are ineffective
10:35 | How do non-white employees respond to these trainings?
13:10 | What are children being taught in school about their race?
Loving homes are important for adoptive children, regardless of the race of the adoptee. But recent articles from the Brookings Institution and America Magazine have called into question whether race is a more important factor when matching a child with their adoptive parents. Particularly, they suggest that white parents adopting black children can be damaging. Should adoption be determined by race or by merit? What are the consequences of limiting adoption to only racial matches?
In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by Malka Groden, adoptive mother of two young children and deputy director of development at the Manhattan Institute, to discuss the importance of transracial adoption. As Malka, Naomi and Ian reveal, science and scholarship suggest that love wins out over racial differences when offering any child a stable home where he or she can flourish.
Resources:
Abby Johnson’s comments about her adopted Black son are problematic. Here’s why. | Brookings Institution
White parents adopting Black kids raises hard questions. We can all learn from them | America Magazine
Show Notes:
01:05 | Is it problematic for a white family to adopt a black child?
03:10 | Loving adoption over the foster system
06:55 | Building genuine relationships with diverse communities
08:25 | Multiethnic Placement Act of 1994 prioritizes loving placement over race-based placement
12:05 | Science affirms need for attachment, regardless of skin color
15:30 | Traumas felt by all adoptees and biological children, due to imperfect parents
By nearly all measures, remote learning fell short for a majority of students in the spring of 2020. With most schools opting to forego in-person teaching this fall, educators desperately need an effective virtual learning model to guide their teaching efforts. How can teachers engage students in their coursework, even as they tune in from […]
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With a large majority of public schools opting to continue remote learning this fall in lieu of reopening, parents face a unique set of challenges as home-based education becomes a more permanent fixture of life. How will life change for the millions of working parents whose children will now be at home for the fall? […]
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A member of the Los Angeles County Commission for Children and Families recently issued a call to abolish foster care. Is the foster care system inherently racist? Are children being removed from their homes simply because their families are experiencing poverty? How can we ensure that disadvantaged children can have a brighter, more prosperous future? […]
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The Children’s Scholarship Fund (CSF) recently surveyed parents who receive need-based scholarships from their organization to send their children to inner-city private schools. How has the coronavirus affected the lives of low-income children attending these private schools? Were private schools in the CSF network prepared to meet the needs of vulnerable students this past spring […]
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Young people in Detroit are suing the state of Michigan over deplorable learning conditions in many of their city’s public schools. This begs the question: Why do students need to take such extreme measures to fight for the right to learn how to read? Are these poor learning conditions caused by a lack of school […]
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Ian and Naomi talk to Jason Riley, a Manhattan Institute fellow and WSJ columnist, about racial bias in standardized testing and law enforcement
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Penn State's Sarah Font joins to discuss the child abuse risks caused by lockdown orders, child welfare during COVID, and how officials can keep kids safe.
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In a time of uncertainty, Ian and Naomi share uplifting news about foster care adoption rates and how to protect children from adverse experiences
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Nobel laureate James Heckman recently made waves among early childhood advocates when he said he is not, and never was, a supporter of universal pre-K. In this episode, Katharine Stevens — a resident scholar at AEI specializing in early childhood development — joins Ian and Naomi for a riveting discussion on James Heckman’s research and […]
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How do we promote educational opportunities for low-income children even before they start going to school? Does investing in young children really reap big benefits? Does the provision of center-based child care for families encourage low parental engagement in a child’s life? On this episode, Ian and Naomi are joined by Sarah Walzer, the CEO […]
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Ian and Naomi talk with two educational reform giants on ways to salvage the learning time lost to COVID-19 and keep kids engaged through summer learning
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Before the Great Depression, charitable and religious organizations almost exclusively ran the child welfare system in the US. What is the appropriate role of private institutions in the child welfare system today? How can policy redress the perverse incentives currently built into the funding model of public child welfare agencies? In this episode, Ian and […]
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Ian and Naomi delve into varied parenting-related topics in this episode, including the role of fatherhood, prison nurseries, and rising black teen suicides
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How does family structure impact the social, educational, and economic outcomes of kids? Is the nuclear family really just a myth constructed in the 1950s? Can stable families advance the cause of social justice? On this episode of “Are You Kidding Me?” Ian and Naomi are joined by AEI Visiting Scholar and UVA sociologist W. […]
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Ian and Naomi discuss how parents can balance caretaking with teleworking and how teachers can ensure that students' living rooms are productive classrooms.
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Child pornography is both illegal and immoral, yet it continues to proliferate throughout cyberspace. Ian and Naomi discuss what, if anything, the government and private tech companies can do to stop it. Later, they discuss the potential of predictive analytics to avoid tragedies like the murder of 6-year-old Zymere Perkins. Show Notes: – Explosion of […]
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Spence-Chapin CEO Kate Trambitskaya joins Ian and Naomi to discuss routes to adoption, attitudes to birth-family contact, and ways to promote fostering kids
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Children entering the foster care system have often experienced serious trauma, but there is nothing inevitable about their life’s trajectories. In this episode, Naomi and Ian discuss what happens to youth aging out of foster care, how the child welfare system can increase the recruitment and retention of foster parents, and the difference between child […]
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Ian and Naomi discuss the impact of family structure on black children's outcomes and how the Indian Child Welfare Act made a "separate but unequal" system
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Ian Rowe and Naomi Schaefer Riley discuss debates over the Federal Charter Schools Program, as well as the tense relationships between communities and Child Protective Services.
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Hosts Ian and Naomi discuss chronic absenteeism in foster children, one judge's view on the disparate impact theory, and how IWCA aided in a child's death
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Join Naomi Schaefer Riley and Ian Rowe as they introduce AEI's newest podcast on child welfare and education: "Are You Kidding Me?"
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