Pop Apologists

Lauren and Chan are so excited to bring you the first Pop Apologists Profile on the legend and icon Demi Moore. She’s had the kind of career that is truly one in a million, but the true story behind her life is a mix of triumph, resilience, and heartbreak. From childhood struggles to public relationships that made headlines, Demi’s journey has been anything but ordinary. Hear all about Demi’s tumultuous childhood (3:22), Demi’s shocking earliest relationships (18:55), her big break into acting (22:22), Demi meeting a hot new actor named Bruce Willis, plus all about their 13 year marriage (31:46), Demi’s iconic moments that shaped our culture (40:42), the ending of Bruce and Demi’s marriage (51:02), her relationship with Ashton Kutcher and the difficulties that followed (53:20), and finally, Demi’s stunning second act. (1:11:36)

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Lauren and Chan are back with part 6 of the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni battle. They are chatting the final portion of the timeline as well as the newest developments on the case:

Ryan and Blake trying to sabotage Justin’s career with WME (2:00), the statement of contrition that Ryan and Blake wanted Justin and Wayfarer to release (4:52), Blake’s collusion with the New York Times (13:39), Blake’s request for a gag order against Justin’s legal team as well as her unique request to the court (15:50), a second lawsuit being dropped on Blake (17:13), an update on Taylor’s feelings about her friendship with Blake and her involvement with the movie (18:31), Blake and Ryan’s team allegedly trying to silence a TikTok creator (24:24), Lauren’s husband gives his fascinating perspective on what actually happened (31:04), Ryan’s fake paparazzi moment (34:26), thoughts on the only way Blake can get out of this mess (38:04), and the real reason Justin wants to go ahead with the lawsuit (43:56)

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Lauren and Chan are joined by DeuxMoi to dive into part 4 of Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni. During their chat, they mention it all:

Where Blake and Justin’s working relationship went wrong (4:43) , The popular theory of Ryan Reynolds being the real villain (7:38), Where Deux feels everything went wrong between Justin and Blake (14:15), Justin Baldoni’s 7 minute voice memo to Blake (18:46), Were Blake and Colleen scheming to get the movie rights back (24:27), Blake’s list of demands (29:46), Why aren’t the other actors speaking out? (32:22), What people say about Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, and Ryan Reynolds (35:32), How Taylor feels about being brought into the narrative (43:17), Ryan Reynolds’ messages to Justin Baldoni (48:58), Lauren’s Roman Empire: the truth about Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn (57:55)
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Lauren and Chan are joined by Kelli and Troy from Beyond the Blinds to chat about all things Diddy + more.

-Diddy’s troubling childhood (2:06)

- Diddy’s arrest with J.Lo being tip of the iceberg with his crimes (16:34)

-How they think Diddy’s freak off’s actually happened (20:37)

-Kim Porter and Cassie’s relationships with Diddy (26:53)

-Celebrities who were complicit with Diddy’s crimes + the tragedy of child stars (34:54)

-Will there ever be a reckoning where the true monsters fall? (42:19)

-The relationship between Diddy and Jay-Z (49:27)

-Thoughts on the upcoming Diddy trial (53:10)

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 Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Casey to discuss some of the biggest conspiracies to hit Hollywood, the British royals, and more. The gals dive into the rumors that Kris Jenner orchestrated the sale of Kim’s sex tape (1:52) and the difference in the sale of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee’s sex tape (6:12). They chat about the rumours surrounding January Jones and director Matthew Vaughn (8:30). They revisit the rumours about Justin Bieber and Kourtney Kardashian (14:26). Lauren, Chan, and Kate touch on the mysterious death of Tafari Campbell, the Obama family’s chef (19:23). The gals chat about  the Chappaquiddick incident involving Ted Kennedy (22:23). They take a look at the death of JonBenét Ramsey and some of the theories regarding her death (24:00). Lauren, Chan, and Kate revisit some of the mysteries surrounding the death of Princess Diana (36:03). The gals give their take on the reality of William and Kate’s marriage (46:39). They talk about celebrity clones and body doubles (49:32) and thoughts on  Meghan and Harry’s holiday card (53:47). The gals give a quick moment for a reality tv round up (57:32). Finally, they chat about the conspiracy that Teresa Graves is actually Whitney Houston’s mother (1:00:27).

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Lauren and Chan are sharing a deep dive on everything we know about the battle between Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni so far. The gals bring everyone up to speed on the drama that surrounded It Ends With Us when the movie was released in August 2024 and the tide of public opinion turning on Blake Lively (1:48). They discuss Blake’s bombshell legal complaint against Justin that dropped just before Christmas 2024, including the specifics of each complaint (6:19). Lauren and Chan dive into the It Ends With Us premier, where Justin and the Wayfarer Studios team were segregated from the rest of the cast (28:42). The gals get into Justin’s hiring of a PR crisis team following the IEWU premier, the massive public backlash against Blake (30:26), and the effects of the smear campaign (33:19). They dive into Justin’s lawsuit against the New York Times(41:23), as well as the allegations that involve Blake (48:57) Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the points in both Justin and Blake's filings where two things can be true (53:31). 

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Lauren and Chan are so excited to be chatting with Heather Dubrow from Real Housewives of Orange County! They dive into the double standards of plastic surgery, and what constitutes a sexy upgrade vs. a taboo procedure (1:26). Heather shares her wisdom on becoming the best version of yourself (3:46), getting through tough parenting stages (8:55), and raising children who are grateful instead of entitled (13:19). Heather talks about her marriage and her advice on nurturing a long-term relationship(20:23). She gives the exclusive scoop on her and Terry’s living situation and what is next for their home (30:04). Heather mentions it all, down to opening up about the tweaks and procedures she has had done and which practitioners she would recommend (36:07). Heather dishes on her diet and exercise regiment, including what has been the biggest game changer in her life (40:30). Finally, Heather answers some rapid-fire questions, including her thoughts on Tamra’s RHOC antics, a behind the scenes peek at Housewives production, and what she is working on next (44:37). 

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This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's!

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds 

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Lauren and Chan share updates and happenings that are both very New York in nature. The gals share their sadness over the end of the Eras Tour and what they think is coming next for Taylor. (10:37) They dive into the story that has gripped the nation, the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the arrest of Luigi Mangione, including the lesser-known manifesto that gives additional insight to his alleged motive. (15:52) Finally, they discuss recent news of Jay-Z being named in the Diddy lawsuit, Jay-Z’s response, and thoughts on associating with the morally bankrupt. (40:49)

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Lauren and Chan are joined by their dad, family law attorney John Bledsoe, where they chat about some of Hollywood’s most contentious and unique divorces:

The discuss Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s divorce and whether parental alienation took place (3:12), Gossip Girl’s Kelly Rutherford and Daniel Giersch’s trans-continental divorce and alleged child abduction (26:45), and Kevin Costner and Christine Baumgartner’s contentious divorce, where the argument of “luxury is in their DNA” didn’t fall on sympathetic ears (40:23).

Plus, John answers some rapid-fire Q&A about pre-nups, filing for divorce, children of divorce, and the secret to staying married.  

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Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer's marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David's five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man's bad behavior, complete with the gals' take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David's love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won't want to miss. 

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Sammi Cohen, a rising star in the world of financial and business content creation who bridges the gap between Wall Street and pop culture. She is known for her deep dives where she breaks down and demystifies complex financial concepts and uncovers what's really happening with today's biggest brands.

Together they discuss:

What happened to Outdoor Voices (4:16)

The fall of the female founded “girl boss” brands (19:49)

Venture Capitalist roles in building a brand (26:58)

The rise and struggles of Glossier (32:11)

Kourtney Kardashian’s problematic brand, Lemme (41:18)

The death and resuscitation of mall brands (50:02)

Find Sammi Cohen on Instagram and TikTok at @sammicohentalks, as well as her weekly newsletter “Social Currency”. 

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Lauren, Chan, and returning guest Joe Peacock are diving in to chat about the biggest misconceptions and unrealistic expectations that romantic comedies have given them, from jobs and apartments to the way a partner should be expressing their love. Lauren, Chan, and Joe take a look at some of the rom coms that have lied to them the most: You’ve Got Mail, Runaway Bride, Pretty Woman, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, and more. They also chat about the rom com male archetypes and why rom com writers have set women and men up for disappointment. Finally, Chan shares where she was looking for her perfect meet-cute to happen, Lauren recalls a time where she tried to create a rom com moment in her life, and Joe shares his dream of dating someone adjacent to a certain celebrity. 

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Lauren and Chan are joined by holistic dating coach Amy Nobile Messing, a holistic dating coach and best selling co author of four books, all designed to empower and inspire women at various stages of their lives. Love Amy is her coaching business that marries the technology of modern dating with a holistic view of human to human energy and connection. Together, the gals are discussing some of the ways women are missing the opportunities to connect with their future partners and what easy adjustments women can make to their dating profiles and personal mindsets to have both their profile as well as energy be ready for emotional connection and lasting love. They also answer listener questions:

Why won’t men commit?

Can long distance relationships actually work?

Does Amy’s advice change based on a woman’s age?

How to keep the spark alive after 10 years together?

How to date as a single mom?

How long should we wait to hear “I love you” from a partner?

Find Amy at @love.amy.nyc on Instagram where you can send her a DM and receive a list of questions to ask on dates. You can also visit her website at loveamy.co

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