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Every Friday, Recode?s Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no other. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. Produced by Recode and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Pivot LIVE! From the 2019 Code Conference

This week's Pivot is live from the Code Conference in Arizona. Kara and Scott talk regulations for the tech industry and why we need more female CEOs so we don't feel bad about firing the bad ones. Also, our hosts review some of their old predictions and see just how spot on they were about Lyft, Snap, and more.
2019-06-14
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The FTC and DOJ are Stayin' Alive, and YouTube backtracks on bigotry

This week, Kara and Scott talk breaking down the big boys (Facebook, Google, etc) and YouTube kicking out the bad boys ("free speech" haters). Wins and fails this week include the revival of the FTC and DOJ, and some Bernie Sanders grandstanding.
2019-06-07
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Deepfake takedowns, white supremacy on Twitter, and the companies boycotting anti-abortion states

Pivot takes up the internet-age-old question of Facebook's responsibilities as a media company. And, should businesses be boycotting states that are passing harsh anti-abortion laws? Also, Kara and Scott discover that both their dads were in the Navy.
2019-05-31
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Medium's "Shampoo Effect," and Tesla, coming undone?

The hosts opine on Medium, L'Oreal, and Quora. Scott critiques WeWork's EBITDA reporting, as well as the final GoT plot. Kara's back from Canada and her interview with Ev Williams, and now gearing up for the Code conference in Arizona.
2019-05-24
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Alabama's big fail, Uber's disastrous IPO, and the Facebook breakup debate

Recode's Kara Swisher and NYU's Scott Galloway discuss Chris Hughes' Facebook breakup proposal, Away Travel's big funding, how southern states are trying to ban abortion and more.
2019-05-17
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Chris Hughes' Case Against Facebook, Strikes on IPO Week, GoT vs Avengers

"Union Scott" shows up to discuss the work stoppages at Uber and Lyft. Kara asks whether tech money for candidates is tainted. And the hosts analyze Game of Thrones (Facebook edition).
2019-05-10
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Facebook's privacy fakeout, WeWork's reckless IPO, and Reagan the welfare queen

Kara and Scott discuss Facebook's new focus on privacy; what comes after the Web 3.0 era; and what Oprah has to say about Scott's new book. Enjoy more of Kara and Scott on Recode Decode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or in your favorite podcast app.
2019-05-03
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The FTC & the "Algebra of Deterrence"

Kara and Scott talk about the FTC's fine on Facebook -- it's basically a "parking ticket". They also talk about the bombings in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday and their social media ban. In wins and fails they talk about the shake-ups at The MarkUp, the Tesla board and Scott's love big Broadway musicals. 
2019-04-26
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Uber's IPO and, more importantly, Game of Thrones

Kara and Scott talk about Disney breaking into the content streaming business, the Uber IPO and, yes, Game of Thrones. Facebook actually gets a win this week for bringing on their first African American woman as a board member (but will she hold Zuckerberg to account?). YouTube very failed at getting accurate information on the burning of the Notre Dame cathedral. Prediction: the unicorn-class is the big loser of this year...
2019-04-19
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Mr. Zuckerberg goes to Washington ... again

Kara and Scott talk about Congressional hearings on tech platforms responsibility for spreading white nationalism and other hate speech. New Zealand, Australia and the EU are so far ahead of the US in regulations ... when will we catch up? They also discuss the Pinterest IPO and AirBnB reversing their decision to pull out of the West Bank. MacKenzie Bezos becoming the 3rd richest woman in the world is a win. And Scott has some predictions for 2020. 
2019-04-12
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"It's not a meritocracy, it's a mirror-tocracy"

Kara and Scott talk about the avalanche of recent Facebook news -- including Zuckerberg's new professed want for regulations. They also talk about YouTube and how the company actively seems to be overlooking all the toxic things that end up on the platform. We reached out to Managing Editor of AfroTech, John Ketchum, to talk about the late-Nipsey Hussle's contributions to tech and entrepreneurship as a way to uplift his community. It's part of a broader trend of affluent black celebrities putting their money into tech entrepreneurship. Speaking of rap/entrepreneurship (eye-roll implied), Elon Musk dropped a rap about Harambe on SoundCloud. Meanwhile, Patagonia is refusing to sell tech-bros vests and we are here for it. And finally, Scott revisits predictions about Lyft and Amazon.
2019-04-05
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Will the rising tide of ride sharing Lyft all boats?

Scott and Kara are skeptical of Lyft's IPO. What exactly is the network effect of ride shares? Also, Facebook says it's banning white nationalist posts. Cool, it's about time. Will anyone follow? Scott and Kara also talk about what Apple TV even is, the EU hitting Google with more antitrust fines and AOC continuing to win the heart of the internet.
2019-03-29
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Does social media cause terrorism?

Kara and Scott talk about terrorism against the Muslim community in New Zealand and how social media may be exacerbating this type of violence. They talk about admissions scandal and how colleges are harming the middle class with their exclusivity. Of course, Scott shouts out his man-crush Beto. His prediction is a white man becomes the 2020 Democratic nominee for president. 
2019-03-22
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LIVE! From SXSW it's Kara and Scott

Kara and Scott are live in Austin, Texas for SXSW. They talk antitrust, the breakdown of big tech and take audience questions and predictions. 
2019-03-15
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Facebook says it?s all about privacy now. OK, sure.

Kara and Scott are back! They talk about Zuckerberg's supposed shift towards more privacy on Facebook and, well, we'll believe it when we see it. Meanwhile Congress is ramping up its efforts on shaking up how we think of antitrust and big tech companies. They get into what they expect to talk and hear about at South by Southwest this week.

If you're looking to learn more about all things Facebook check out our friend Casey Newton's newsletter The Interface.
2019-03-08
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News flash: Facebook?s contractors are people

Kara brings on her former co-host, Wired senior staff writer and Gadget Lab co-host, Lauren Goode. They talk about the moderating content on Facebook -- and the working conditions of the people who are tasked with looking at the gruesome videos. 
2019-03-01
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DC is old news. ?The universe revolves around Silicon Valley?

Kara brings on co-host, legendary NYTimes journalist, Maureen Dowd. They talk about how Silicon Valley has eclipsed Washington, DC as the country's true seat of power. 
2019-02-22
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Hot Take: Amazon HQ2 breaks up with NYC

Kara and Scott pop back into the studio to give their hot takes on Amazon pulling out of their HQ2 deal with New York City. 
2019-02-15
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Is this the year big tech gets regulated? (Probably not.)

Scott blusters in from his breakfast with Congress on how to regulate big tech ? so Kara and Scott get into whether Congress will ever be regulating tech (seems not so likely). Kara sums up her twitter showdown with Jack Dorsey. Also more shade thrown on media outlets doing a bad job ? like Esquire Magazine featuring a cover story about being a white boy in America and more generally Tucker Carlson,
2019-02-15
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Hot Take: Scott Galloway on Bezos vs. AMI [BOOM!]

BONUS episode: Scott couldn't wait to tell Pivot listeners what he thinks about Bezos' post accusing the National Inquirer of extortion.
2019-02-08
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Happy(ish) birthday, Facebook.

Kara and Scott (sort of) celebrate Facebook's 15th birthday. With pop-ins and hot takes from a couple friends, including Congressman Ro Khanna and podcast Queen Aminatou Sow, they get into how they REALLY feel about the platform. Scott and Kara also talk about the moniker "people of wealth", the future of podcasting, and clap backs from Nancy Pelosi.
2019-02-08
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Cook vs. Zuckerberg vs. consumer privacy

Kara and Scott talk about Apple and Facebook's latest gaffes and how Apple might be the only force left regulating Facebook. There's a-latte to say about Howard Schultz's presidential ambitions. Nancy Pelosi was a big winner this week (and Scott for predicting the shutdown would end on last week's episode!) We also hear from a historian who told the Davos crowd that a top-marginal tax has historically worked in the United States. 
2019-02-01
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MAGA teens, Fyre Fest and Twitter wars

Kara and Scott talk about how Twitter duped us all again. Scott is fresh off a conference where both he and Sheryl Sandberg talked about the future of Facebook (spoiler alert: they have very different takes on how the company should move forward). Kara gets caught up in the Covington Catholic video drama. Now she's going head-to-head with Tucker Carlson (hey Tucker, want to come on our podcast?). Meanwhile, in another Twitter feud this week, Cardi B is a big winner after saying she'd "dog walk" Tomi Lahren. Also, Fyre Fest is still the biggest fail of all time (but the new documentaries about it are both a win!). And, Kara's prediction is that she'll never own another car again.
2019-01-25
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"Woke" is the 2019 business strategy

Kara and Scott are back together again! This week they catch up on Jeff Bezos' divorce and his not so hot texting skills (hey alive girls!). We're pretty sure Gillette listens to Pivot because they took Scott up on one of his predictions; they used a social justice trend in their latest marketing campaign. Meanwhile, during this weeks senate confirmation hearing, Attorney General nominee William Barr got a surprising amount of questions -- from both sides of the aisle -- about enforcing antitrust laws and big tech. And, let's face it, @AOC, aka Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is winning the Internet. 
2019-01-18
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Tech addiction and how it might be ruining Gen Z

Scott brings on a guest-host, his NYU colleague and bestselling author Jonathan Haidt.
2019-01-11
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Why the ?Fakakta Shutdown? is slowing tech regulation even further

Kara brings on guest host Jon Lovett (Pod Save America) to talk about the government shut down, the new Congress and how it all might shake out for big tech.
2019-01-04
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2018's biggest stories and 2019 predictions

Kara and Scott talk about some of the biggest stories in tech and business of the past year. They also make some big predictions for 2019.
2018-12-28
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Facebook?s latest scandal and the "tyranny of technology"

Kara and Scott breakdown yet another Facebook scandal. This time, it turns out Facebook was passing on private user message data to partners like Netflix and Spotify.
2018-12-21
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Google doesn't make iPhones, and other things Congress learned this week

Kara and Scott talk about Google's CEO testifying to Congress. The company is being evasive about its controversial search engine in China. But on the other hand, some US Representatives didn't know Google doesn't make the iPhone.
2018-12-14
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The U.K. piles on Facebook

Kara and Scott talk about the latest dump of emails exposing Facebook management?s malfeasance, but Scott thinks it?s just the U.K. piling on.
2018-12-07
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Microsoft is more valuable than Apple again. Why?

Kara and Scott talk about Microsoft surpassing Apple. They also come to an agreement that ?Republicans buy football teams and Democrats buy media properties?. In case you missed some recent headlines, Kara and Scott talk under-reported stories. China is unveiling a social credit surveillance system and it?s literally a ?Black Mirror? episode. Scott?s ?win of the week? is NASA beating big tech to a Mars landing. Kara?s win is Google employees making bold statements about their company on her recent podcast. 
2018-11-30
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It's time for Facebook's board to step up

Kara and Scott talk about how Facebook's C-suite has responded to reports of mismanagement.
2018-11-23
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Facebook's dirty tricks

Kara and Scott talk about Facebook and the explosive report on their mismanagement and deception over the past three years.
2018-11-16
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Amazon?s HQ2 was a con, not a contest

Kara and Scott talk about the upshot of the 2018 midterms, Amazon?s surprise HQ2 announcement and how our perception of social media has been permanently changed by bots and trolls.
2018-11-09
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Sexual harassment at Google, nasty YouTube comments and Beto O'Rourke

Kara and Scott talk about Google's attempts to cover up sexual harassment claims against three of its top executives; the negative effects of cable news on society; and Scott's man-crush on Texas Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke. Plus: What Kara did on Halloween and Scott's taxonomy of love.
2018-11-02
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Tim Cook?s 'data industrial complex,' Uber?s IPO and Saudi money

Kara and Scott talk about Apple CEO Tim Cook's latest critiques of Facebook and Google; the fact that Uber's IPO could value the company at as much as $120 billion; and the ethical question of what to do if you're a startup that could raise money from Saudi Arabia, or a tech company that already has. Plus: Scott goes car-shopping for Kara, and the implications of Facebook losing another Oculus co-founder.
2018-10-26
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Saudi money, Facebook?s fib and Amazon HQ2

Recode's Kara Swisher and NYU's Scott Galloway talk about Silicon Valley's Saudi money crisis, the ongoing fallout from Facebook Portal and the cities that never had a chance in Amazon's HQ2 competition.
2018-10-19
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Google's data breach, Facebook Portal, and Taylor Swift

Kara and Scott discuss why the Google Plus hack matters, the new Facebook Portal and its plastic lenscap, and Kara's affection for Taylor Swift (even before Swift's Instagram post exhorting her fans to register to vote). In this episode: (01:48) The Google hack; (7:03) Facebook Portal; (12:49) Wins of the week: Taylor Swift and Nikki Haley; (16:23) Anand Giridharadas and the problem with elites; (21:12) Predictions: Sniper retail acquisitions and techlash; (25:51) Would Apple or Google buy Tesla?; (28:42) Kavanaugh and Melania Trump
2018-10-12
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Facebook's data breach, Elon vs. SEC and the Kavanaugh hearings

On this episode of Pivot, Kara and Scott talk about: (01:20) Facebook's massive data breach; (06:05) Elon Musk's $20 million SEC settlement; (12:43) Wins of the week: Jeff Flake, Amy Klobuchar and Jeff Bezos; (20:47) Soul-sappingCycle and the Wizarding World of Harry Potter
2018-10-05
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Instagram co-founders, "tech bias" and why Amazon will buy Snapchat

Kara and Scott talk about the dramatic departure of Instagram co-founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger, Attorney General Jeff Sessions' war on "tech bias," and the future of Snap. In this episode: (01:44) The big story: Why did Instagram?s co-founders leave?; (07:13) Attorney General Jeff Sessions and ?tech bias?; (12:39) Will Amazon buy Snapchat?; (17:44) GOATs of the week: Craig Newmark and Margrethe Vestager; (20:08) Absurd quotes of the week; (21:27) Scott?s prediction on the future of Facebook stock
2018-09-28
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Introducing Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

A weekly look at tech and business headlines, with provocations, predictions and insights from two leading voices in the worlds of journalism and marketing.
2018-09-21
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What comes next after #TooEmbarrassed ends?

Two and a half years ago, we launched Too Embarrassed to Ask. And now, having answered your questions about everything from Snapchat to Juicero to tech addiction, it?s time to goodbye ... or maybe Goode-bye? This week, Recode?s Kara Swisher reunites with her longtime co-host Lauren Goode (now a senior writer at Wired) for one final show and one final ?hashtag money.? They talk about wearables, podcasts, Phoebe?s twin sister on ?Friends,? Facebook?s year of scandals and ? of course ? their cats. Give it a listen and stay tuned for a new Kara Swisher podcast, coming this fall. If you subscribe to Too Embarrassed to Ask now, make sure to stay subscribed; you?ll automatically get the first episodes of Kara?s new show once it?s ready.
2018-08-03
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Should you quit social media?

Microsoft Research scientist Jaron Lanier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "10 Arguments for Deleting Your Social Media Accounts Right Now." He explains why those who have the opportunity to quit platforms like Facebook and Twitter should do so, comparing the problem to past crusades against ?mass addictions? like smoking or drunk driving. Lanier also talks about the future of virtual reality, a field in which he helped drive interest in the 1990s.
2018-07-27
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Why do people think their phones are spying on them?

Northeastern University assistant professors Dave Choffnes and Christo Wilson talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their recent year-long investigation into a popular online conspiracy theory: Smartphones are secretly turning on their microphones to record conversations and serve us more targeted ads. Choffnes and Wilson say that although there have been a small number of apps that have surveilled users, they tested 17,000 of the most popular apps on Android and found that this doesn't happen; in fact, it doesn't need to. Although the theory may sound plausible, we provide a vast amount of information about ourselves through other means that can explain ads that feel eerily well-targeted to our lives. The researchers also explain some of the steps consumers can take to reduce these more mundane privacy violations and how app developers have reacted since their study was released.
2018-07-20
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How do you get over burnout? Ask Kobe Bryant for help.

House of Highlights creator Omar Raja talks with Recode's Kurt Wagner about how he built his sports-focused Instagram account into a social media juggernaut. Today, it's owned by Bleacher Report and has nearly 10 million followers. Raja hasn't taken a day off in four years; however, the fame of the account has connected him with basketball stars like Kobe Bryant, who earlier this year gave Raja a personal pep talk and cured a growing sense of burnout. He also talks about how he decides what to feature on Instagram, why House of Highlights is expanding into YouTube and Twitter accounts and how it's making money on all of these platforms without looking like a sell-out in the eyes of its young fanbase.
2018-07-13
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Disinformation on social media: How screwed are we?

Renée DiResta, the head of policy at Data for Democracy, talks with Recode?s Kara Swisher about how disinformation is spread on social media platforms and what can be done about it. DiResta says the tech community wouldn't be talking about this problem as much if Donald Trump had not won the presidency in 2016 ? and that?s unfortunate, because a huge and diverse number of groups have weaponized social media, not just pro-Trump Russian agents. She explains why consumers shouldn?t be afraid of tech platforms sharing more information with each other and the government, and why one of the most useful things they can do is to politely correct people in their own communities who are spreading false information.
2018-07-06
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Are VR games better than normal video games?

Recode?s Kara Swisher, her son Louie Swisher and Recode Radio producer Eric Johnson talk about Sandbox VR, a new virtual reality arcade installation south of San Francisco that they visited together, along with Kara?s other son, Alex. They share their reactions to an action-packed pirate video game, in which everyone was wearing a backpack computer and a VR headset and could roam freely around a room, all while shooting evil skeletons, dodging ghosts and solving puzzles. Kara says she?d prefer a similar VR experience to any video game, while Louie argues that it?s an unfair comparison, and that there are times he?d still prefer to play games on the TV. Meanwhile, Eric critiques the game?s design, and everyone complains about a parrot that wouldn't stop talking. Plus: Louie recounts a VR art installation that illustrates the peril of crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally, and Kara quizzes him about his latest feelings on Snapchat and Facebook.
2018-06-29
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Anil Dash: How can we make tech more accountable?

Entrepreneur Anil Dash, the CEO of Fog Creek Software, talks with Recode?s Kara Swisher about ethics and accountability in the tech industry. Dash recounts his first ?eye-opening moment? about the potential for abuse on the web, and why he is encouraged by an apparent shift in the tone of the conversation about harassment and inclusion. He also proposes a new way to talk about the worst forms of platform misuse, such as the genocide in Myanmar that has been fueled in part by Facebook. Plus: Why South Asian immigrants are overrepresented in American tech companies, and why Dash has become internet-famous for talking about mangoes.
2018-06-22
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AT&T can buy Time Warner. What does that mean for everyone else?

Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka talk about this week's ruling that AT&T could buy Time Warner, likely ending a lawsuit brought against the companies by the U.S. Justice Department. The decision almost immediately triggered a $65 billion bid from Comcast for 21st Century Fox, which Disney had been publicly courting at a lower price. And more generally, Kafka says it means that any media distributor now feels free to buy content companies, should they want to mirror AT&T's planned marriage of its distribution infrastructure with Time Warner's media. Plus: What all this means for consumers and why it's significant that this verdict came down the same week that net neutrality was repealed in the U.S.
2018-06-15
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Apple WWDC 2018: Why was there no new hardware?

Recode?s Kara Swisher and Dan Frommer talk about the 2018 edition of Apple?s Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC). Frommer explains why the company has stopped regularly unveiling new hardware at the event, and why Apple's decision to break that rule last year with an early preview of the HomePod smart speaker may have backfired. He also recaps the big announcements from this year?s conference, including updates to Siri and Apple?s augmented reality technology, ARKit. Plus: Why FaceTime now supports up to 32 callers at the same time, and why Apple is getting into the virtual avatar game with Memoji.
2018-06-08
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