The Watch

Chris and Andy talk about some of the things they watched over the weekend, including a supersized episode of ?Bluey? (1:00) and 'Saturday Night Live' hosted by Ryan Gosling (15:51). Then, they talk about the first episode of ?The Sympathizer? and whether shows are helped or hurt by having a famous director like Park Chan-wook direct the first few episodes (22:16). Finally, they discuss ?Fallout? and where it ranks among other video game adaptations, such as ?The Last of Us? (42:12). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some news from the week, including the trailer for ?Joker: Folie à Deux? and the announcement that the John le Carré adaptation ?The Night Manager? will be returning for two more seasons (1:00). Then they talk about the latest episode of ?Shogun? (16:49) and Episode 3 of ?Ripley? (41:14) before discussing how they are liking this season of ?Top Chef? so far (53:04). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the series finale of ?Curb Your Enthusiasm? and how the show has evolved over its 12-season run (1:00). Then, they talk about the first two episodes of ?Ripley? and how it may be the best thing on Netflix since ?Mindhunter? (15:06). Finally, they get into the first two episodes of the Colin Farrell show ?Sugar? and how it?s hard to judge the show when they know an extreme twist is coming (41:53). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Julia Garner was cast as a version of Silver Surfer in the upcoming ?Fantastic Four? movie (1:00) and give some love to the second season of ?Tokyo Vice? (10:46). Then they break down the seventh episode of ?Shogun? and talk about how the show?s long production road helped deepen the characters (17:18). Finally, they talk about Episodes 6-8 of ?3 Body Problem? and whether there will be a second season of the show (36:18). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris is joined by Ringer-Verse host Charles Holmes to talk about the new animated series ?X-Men ?97? and how it?s the latest installment in what has become the genre of ?nostalgia? television (1:00). Then, they talk about the first few episodes of the ?Jerrod Carmichael Reality Show,? how much ?reality? there is in this reality TV show (37:14), and where this show fits in with the evolving idea of what a standup comic does (54:50). Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Charles Holmes Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy break down the sixth episode of 'Shogun,' talking about their favorite moments from this episode and Anna Sawai's standout performance (1:00). Then, Chris is joined by Flo Lloyd-Hughes, host of The Ringer's 'Counter Pressed,' to talk about British TV-watching habits, including the popularity of 'The Traitors' U.K. (27:17) and what American shows have crossed over to become popular in England this year (44:42). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Flo Lloyd-Hughes Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about news that ?Euphoria? Season 3 has been delayed indefinitely, and get into whether or not the show will ever come back (1:00). Then, they discuss the first five episodes of ?3 Body Problem,? touching on how Benioff and Weiss are at their best when working from a source material (15:43) and how the show manages to make dense sci-fi material feel light and fast-paced (34:32). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the trailers for years-in-the-making ?Star Wars? show ?The Acolyte? (1:00) and the second season of ?House of the Dragon? (11:41). Then they talk about the first episode of ?3 Body Problem? and how Benioff and Weiss manage to speed through plot in a way that hurt the end of ?Game of Thrones,? but is beneficial here (17:03). Finally, they discuss the fifth episode of ?Shogun? (29:27) and the premiere of ?Top Chef? Season 21, which marks a new era with Kristen Kish as the host (49:36). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that ?The Bear? is shooting its third and fourth seasons simultaneously and the breakneck production pace that the show has (1:00). Then they talk about the new show ?Manhunt? that depicts the hunt for Abraham Lincoln?s killer (23:29) and Apple TV+?s play for straight historical fiction television (32:53). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about a New Yorker profile of 'Succession' writer Lucy Prebble in which she wonders whether it's better to create TV that "feels like having a bath" instead of shows with complicated plotlines that require the viewer to follow closely (1:00). Then they talk about the fourth episode of 'Shogun' (26:44) and the new Netflix show 'The Gentlemen,' which feels just like the "gourmet cheeseburger" that chief content officer Bela Bajaria once described (44:55). Read the New Yorker article here. Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about Sunday night's Oscars ceremony and how it seemed to cement the next generation of stars (1:00), as well as other standout moments from the broadcast, like the "I'm Just Ken" performance (30:57). Then, they talk about the first two episodes of ?The Regime? starring Kate Winslet, and the difference between when a show is ?bad? and when it?s just not working (55:47). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the third episode of ?Shogun? and how the show uses confrontation set pieces to drive the plot (1:00). Then, they answer a few more mailbag questions, talking about the lasting impact of ?Dune: Part Two? (28:16), the most influential TV shows of their childhoods (41:24), and the trailers for ?3 Body Problem? and ?Fallout? (48:18). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy give their reactions to ?Dune: Part Two? (1:00) and talk about whether or not the movie cemented the next generation of stars in Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Austin Butler, and Florence Pugh (30:38). Then they talk about some other things they are watching like Richard Linklater?s new documentary ?Hometown Prison? (41:36), before opening up the mailbag to answer a few questions around the state of the tv industry (48:54). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Guy Ritchie will direct a ?Ray Donovan? spinoff (1:00) and that the long-talked-about ?Harry Potter? TV series could be coming to Max in 2026 (15:32). Then, they talk about the first two episodes of ?Shogun? and how the show is using the TV medium to tell a dense and rich story (36:31). Finally, they preview ?The Regime,? HBO?s new Sunday night show starring Kate Winslet (59:26). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about rewatching ?Dune? in anticipation of ?Dune: Part Two? and how seriously Denis Villeneuve takes this world that he is creating (1:00). Then they talk about ?Shogun? and why the show reminds them of ?Game of Thrones? (18:03), before talking about the rumors that Paramount+ and Peacock might merge (32:38). Finally, they discuss two documentaries they are enjoying: ?The Dynasty? and ?The Greatest Night in Pop? (56:32). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that ?True Detective? has been renewed for Season 5 with Issa Lopez at the helm, and some of show creator Nic Pizzolatto?s comments about the latest season (1:00). Then, they talk about two Apple shows they have been watching, ?Masters of the Air? and ?The New Look? (23:55), and how they define the company?s take on historical fiction. They then discuss the finale of ?Monsieur Spade? (41:11), before talking about their experience seeing ?Madame Web? (56:03). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy break down the finale of 'True Detective: Night Country,' and this season as a whole. They talk about how the show ultimately spent too much time in the past (1:00), whether or not the reveal of who killed Annie and the scientists landed for them (14:27), and where the 'True Detective' franchise goes from here (33:37). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy briefly talk about the announcement of the new ?Fantastic Four? cast (1:00). Then they are joined by ?Mr. and Mrs. Smith? cocreator and showrunner Francesca Sloane to talk about the finale of the show (15:08), working with Donald Glover to bring the story to life (34:10), and choosing Maya Erskine for the role of Jane (43:49). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Francesca Sloane Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the trailers that aired during the Super Bowl, including ?Wicked? (1:00), ?Deadpool 3? (15:05), and the remake of ?Twisters? (20:22). Then, they talk about the penultimate episode of ?True Detective: Night Country? and how the emotional moments really shined in this episode while there seems to be a lack of interest in depicting that actual detective work (31:21). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Fox, Warner Bros., and ESPN will launch a joint sports streaming platform this year (1:00) and what ripple effects this could have in the scripted TV world (28:48). Then they talk about Apple TV's upcoming slate of shows, including the Colin Farrell show 'Sugar' (38:46) and Episodes 3 through 6 of 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' a show where the lack of backstory for the main characters works to its advantage (54:27). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy break down the latest episode of ?True Detective: Night Country? and talk about whether or not the show?s use of multiple mystery plotlines is muddying the story (1:00). Then they talk about being pleasantly surprised with ?Mr. & Mrs. Smith? after the show?s long road to production (40:08), before briefly discussing the premiere of the final season of ?Curb Your Enthusiasm? (59:18). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy is joined by Joanna Robinson to talk about the strength of various big IP franchises like Marvel, Star Wars, and Harry Potter (1:00), and what upcoming projects, if any, to look out for from these properties (19:47). Then, they talk about the first two episodes of ?Expats,? the new Amazon show starring Nicole Kidman (38:31), and preview this Sunday?s episode of ?True Detective: Night Country? (52:31). Host: Andy Greenwald Guest: Joanna Robinson Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy break down the latest episode of 'True Detective: Night Country.' They talk about how the lack of easter-egging in this episode worked in it's advantage (1:00) and the dynamic between Danvers and Navarro (24:07). Then they talk about the latest episode of 'Monsieur Spade' and the show's very dense plotline (35:55). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the news from the week, including Jon Stewart returning as a part-time host of 'The Daily Show' through the election (1:00) and the Oscar nominations (18:27). Then, they talk about the finales of ?The Curse? (21:41) and ?Fargo? (1:07:02), and whether these shows are proof that prestige television can still be made, or if they are the last of a dying breed. Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy discuss the second episode of 'True Detective: Night Country.' They talk about some of the callbacks to 'True Detective' Season 1 in this episode (1:00), the horror and paranormal elements that are becoming more prominent this season so far (17:49), and the way the environment plays a role in the plot (26:12). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the delayed 2023 Emmys that were held this week and what the sweep of awards by shows like ?The Bear,? ?Beef,? and ?Succession? says about the state of the TV industry (1:00). Then they break down the first episode of ?Monsieur Spade? (30:12) before being joined by the lead, Clive Owen, to talk about his decision to take on the iconic detective character Sam Spade (50:46). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Clive Owen Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the first episode of 'True Detective: Night Country.' They discuss how it differs from the past 'True Detective' iterations (1:00) and how the setting's constant nighttime affects the story (24:56). Then Chris is joined by creator Issa Lopez to talk about how she came up with the idea for the show and working with Jodie Foster (35:37). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Issa Lopez Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that among others, Carrie Coon and Parker Posey have been cast in the next season of ?White Lotus? (1:00). Then they talk about the news that there will be a ?Mandalorian? movie and what that means for a potential Season 4 of the show (23:36). Finally, they discuss the newest Marvel TV show, ?Echo,? and how?like many other Marvel shows before it?it struggles to strike the right tone (34:51). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy are joined by Jason Mantzoukas to talk about some of his favorite things he consumed in 2023, including 'Blue Eyed Samurai' and 'The Other Two' (1:00), the newest season of 'Reacher' (47:58), and working on 'Percy Jackson and the Olympians' (57:33). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Jason Mantzoukas Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the TV and movies they consumed over the holidays, including ?Maestro? and ?The Holdovers? (1:00). Then, they discuss how this past summer?s strikes might impact the upcoming 2024 TV slate (14:03), before getting into some of their most anticipated shows of the year, including ?Industry? Season 3, ?Masters of the Air,? and ?Sinking Spring? (22:34). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the finale of 'Slow Horses' Season 3, and how the show is set up to be able to try different types of storytelling with each season (1:00). Then, they are joined by show creator Will Smith to talk about how they have been able to put out a new season every six months (17:28), and working with Gary Oldman to bring the character of Jackson Lamb to life (35:30). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Will Smith Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy look back at the year in television by opening up the mailbag. They talk about which shows they would have recast (1:00), which TV show would have been better as a movie and vice versa (36:47), and what they would consider to be a perfect season of television (53:59). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy are joined by 'The Bear' creator Christopher Storer and actor Ebon Moss-Bachrach to talk about their favorite episode of TV from this year: "Forks." First they talk with Christopher Storer about wanting to make a quieter episode in "Forks" after the loudness and commotion of "Fishes" (5:47). Then, Ebon Moss-Bachrach joins the show as well to talk about some of the isolation that came with making an episode solely about Richie (30:38), and getting to act with Olivia Colman (51:32). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Chris Storer and Ebon Moss-Bachrach Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy remember Andre Braugher, famous for his roles on ?Homicide? and 'Brooklyn Nine-Nine,' who passed away this week (1:00). Then they reflect on the state of TV in 2023 and how we seem to be at the twilight of peak TV (9:00), before ranking their 10 favorite shows from the year, including ?Full Circle,? ?The Gold,? and ?Daisy Jones and the Six? (41:59). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the content they consumed over the weekend including ?The Boy and the Heron? and ?Saturday Night Live? (1:00). Then they talk about some of the TV shows that got Golden Globes nominations (17:47) and check in with how they?re feeling about ?The Curse? (37:11), before discussing Sam Esmail?s new movie, ?Leave the World Behind? (51:55). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of HBO Max?s upcoming shows in 2024 including ?Industry? and the remake of ?Mr. and Mrs. Smith? (1:00). Then they talk about the latest episode of ?Slow Horses? and how every scene in this show accomplishes something (20:47), before talking about ?Scavengers Reign,? a psychedelic animated show on Max (34:28). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about a few trailers that dropped over the weekend, like for ?The Boys? Season 4 (1:00) and ?House of the Dragon? Season 2 (14:28). Then they talk about the latest episodes of ?Fargo? and ?The Curse? and how both of the shows are making satires of contemporary culture (30:12). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the decision to run ?Only Murders in the Building? on ABC this January, and compare it to a similar move to run ?Andor? on cable channels (1:00). Then, they talk about the first two episodes of ?Slow Horses? Season 3, and how the show has found a formula that works (24:48), before discussing the third episode of ?The Curse? (39:34). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about some of the content they consumed over the Thanksgiving break, like ?Past Lives? and ?Merrily We Roll Along? (1:00). Then, they talk briefly about Dave Filioni being named the new chief creative officer of Lucasfilm (20:56), before talking about the first two episodes of ?Fargo? Season 5 (30:49). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris is joined by Sean Fennessey to talk about the first two episodes of 'Monarch: Legacy of Monsters.' They discuss where this show fits into the "monster-verse" canon (1:00) and what it says about Apple TV's overall streaming strategy (19:00). Then Chris gives a few recommendations for TV shows to watch with family over the Thanksgiving holiday (30:51). Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Sean Fennessey Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Pedro Pascal will likely be cast as Reed Richards in the next ?Fantastic Four? movie (1:00), then touch on the new ?Madame Web? trailer (16:29). They also talk about the first two episodes of ?Murder at the End of the World? and how it seems unevenly split between two plotlines (23:03), before talking about the newest David Fincher movie, ?The Killer? (51:55). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the season finale of ?Loki? Season 2 and how in this final episode the show finally found it?s pace (1:00). Then they talk about the first episode of ?The Curse,? the supremely uncomfortable show from Benny Safdie and Nathan Fielder, starring Emma Stone (33:23). Finally, Chris is joined by Rob Harvilla to talk about turning his podcast, ?60 Songs that Explain the ?90s,? into a book (53:58). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Rob Harvilla Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy discuss the news that the SAG-AFTRA strike is over and what that means now that both Hollywood strikes have concluded (1:00). Then, to celebrate the 804th episode of ?The Watch,? they open up the mailbag. They talk about what genres of TV shows they?d like to see come back (26:07) and some of their favorite music and books they?ve consumed this year (43:23). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the trailer for the new Marvel show ?Echo? and how it will be released under the studio?s new ?Marvel Spotlight? banner for content without ?larger MCU continuity? (1:00). Then they talk about a New Yorker article asking whether we?re in the last days of prestige TV (21:17), before discussing the first few episodes of ?Nada,? a new Argentinian comedy on Hulu (48:53). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Read the New Yorker article here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news this week that HBO CEO Casey Bloys was using fake Twitter accounts to hit back at TV critics (1:00) and also that some of HBO?s most popular shows, like ?White Lotus? and ?Euphoria,? won?t be released until 2025 (16:31). Then they talk about an article published in Variety this week that detailed problems at Marvel Studios, including what to do with Johnathan Majors?s ?Kang? character and the forthcoming low box office performance of ?The Marvels? (27:21). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the horror movies they did and didn?t watch over the weekend (1:00). Then, they talk about ?Loki? S2E4 and the show?s continued use of a MacGuffin to drive the plot (15:31) before discussing the new John le Carré documentary, ?The Pigeon Tunnel,? and how much we want to know about our literary heroes (41:07). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about ?Killers of the Flower Moon? and this era of creation that Martin Scorsese is in (1:00). Then they do a streaming service redraft, placing shows on different streaming services where they think they would have performed better (28:56). They talk about ?Daisy Jones & the Six,? ?Jury Duty,? and more (43:17). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy discuss whether or not Netflix is still the place where people go to find something new to watch and how that affects the shows that get put on there (1:00). Then they talk about the third episodes of ?Loki? (25:43) and ?Lessons in Chemistry? (35:41). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy give some updates on the actors strike (1:00) and talk about the first two episodes of the new Brie Larson show ?Lessons in Chemistry? (16:42) and the ?Beckham? docuseries (47:58). Then, Chris is joined by the director of ?Beckham,? Fisher Stevens, to talk about the making of the show (1:00:22). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Fisher Stevens Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the second episode of ?Loki? Season 2 (13:11) and what the show could have looked like had it been more of a ?Doctor Who??style series (23:36). Then, they talk about the season finale of ?The Gold? (42:34). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices