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Episode 184: Make Rule 11 Great Again!

In this week?s episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The array of firings and appointments of senior Defense Department officials The law governing the General Services Administration and support for presidential...
2020-11-11
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Episode 183: It’s Late, and We’re Loopy

We are back, but alas we?re here to talk about the election!  If you were hoping for a national security-focused escape from the election, well, we?ll make it up to you soon)!
2020-11-06
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Episode 182: This Podcast Will Keep Going Until They Come For Us!

And we?re back, after a(nother) week off!  What do we have to show for it? Tune is as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney as they review: Steve?s Supreme Court argument in Briggs ? more military...
2020-10-22
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Episode 181: This Podcast Has Lots of Jitter

They may or may not have more presidential debates, but you?ll always at least have us!  Tune in for this week?s episode as Professors Chesney and Vladeck review the latest national security law developments: The...
2020-10-08
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Episode 180: This Podcast Really Should Be Weekly…

We?re not a biweekly show, we promise!  It just seems that way sometimes?like this week, when we are bringing you: Discussing the passing of Justice Ginsburg and potential implications of the Amy Coney Barrett nomination...
2020-09-29
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Episode 179: This Podcast Is “Considerably Recalibrated”

So we took a week off without warning because, you know, 2020.  But we?re back, and we sure don?t lack for things to discuss and debate!  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney...
2020-09-16
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Episode 178: What Would Robert Jackson Do?

We are back after a week off, and apparently your co-hosts used the extra time to sharpen disagreements about old school topics like ? GTMO!  Tune in for: An extended debate over the D.C. Circuit?s Al...
2020-08-31
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Episode 177: This Podcast Does Not Have a Navy

We are back with a new episode, bringing you respectful disagreements and discussion?not to mention heaps of frivolity?about the latest national security law news.  This week, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss: Attorney General...
2020-08-21
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Episode 176: This Podcast Won’t Play Football This Fall

We were out last week?what?d we miss? Oh. So, there was much we could have covered this week, but we decided to focus on these three: The First Circuit ruling vacating the Tsarnaev (Boston Marathon...
2020-08-10
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Episode 175: The President Has No Authority to Delay This Podcast

We delay this program just fine without his help, thank you very much.  Well, I guess you can see what we are leading with this evening.  The run-of-show: President Trump?s suggestion about delaying the election...
2020-07-31
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Episode 174: Portland Trailblazing

This week we don?t lack for topics, to say the least. Tune in for in-the-weeds discussion of: Trumplandia meets Portlandia 1: What?s the legal basis for DHS components engaging in law enforcement activity there? Trumplandia...
2020-07-21
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Episode 173: This Is John Roberts’s Podcast

We?re back, with a Supreme-Court focused episode!  Tune in for: The Supreme Court?s twin decisions in the New York grand jury and Congressional subpoena cases The consequences of those decisions for related litigation such as...
2020-07-10
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Episode 172: Cleanup on Aisle Trump!

This week on NSL Podcast, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney review and debate the latest national security legal news, including: Russian ?bounties? on U.S. forces in Afghanistan, including (theoretical) legal implications A district court...
2020-07-02
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Episode 171: There’s a Spectrum of Corruption

We?re back with an evening recording, as co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck weigh in on: The D.C. Circuit?s Mike Flynn ruling, and the likely path ahead The bizarre process of removing SDNY US Attorney...
2020-06-26
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Episode 170: This Podcast Is Not Subject to (Prior) Restraint

In the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast, co-hosts Professors Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss: Juneteenth, the Emancipation Proclamation, and War Powers DOJ?s doomed effort to get a prior restraint preventing publication...
2020-06-19
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Episode 169: Now We’re a Third Amendment Podcast

After an extra-long break, we are back?and swamped!  Tune in for debate and discussion of, among other things: The National Guard deployments to Washington, DC, including questions of status, command, and authority The special circumstances...
2020-06-12
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Episode 168: On the Brink with the Insurrection Act

Tonight we bring you a special episode, recorded jointly with Ben Wittes as an episode of the Lawfare Podcast.  Ben, Bobby, and Steve explore the threatened invocation of the Insurrection Act by President Trump, the...
2020-06-02
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Episode 167: Podcast Emergency Action Documents

Welcome back to the nerdiest national security law show around!  Tune in this week for debate and discussion between Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney regarding: Inspector General firings Presidential Emergency Action Documents Mike Flynn?s sentencing...
2020-05-21
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Episode 166: This Podcast Has Temporary Absolute Immunity

Welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, after a one-week hiatus!  (You can actually watch the recording here, if you need more Zoom in your life). In this episode, Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney...
2020-05-14
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Episode 165: This Podcast Prefers Its Nothing Burgers to Be Medium Rare

What a fun episode!  Co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck recorded ?live? before the Austin Bar Association, as the finale of their day-long Zoom conference.  On tap: The ODNI report on FISA statistics: We have...
2020-05-02
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Episode 164: LIBERATE THIS PODCAST!

Is this our most-substantive episode ever?  No, no it?s not.  Is it a sign that co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney are going a bit stir crazy?  Perhaps so.  Does it feature cute cameos from...
2020-04-23
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Episode 163: This Podcast Will Have a Very Powerful Reopening

And we?re back, with discussion of the latest national security law news. (Video of the show here!)  This week, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney nerd out with the details on: Can he do that?...
2020-04-16
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Episode 162: The Penn Is Mightier Than the Sword!

We are ?live? from Penn Law today!  Thanks to the Penn Law National Security Society, not to mention the magic of Zoom, we recorded today with a virtual audience.  Tune in for your co-hosts, Professors...
2020-04-08
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Episode 161: This Podcast Was Recorded “Before There Were Privacy Laws”

It?s not April Fool?s trick, we really are back with a new episode covering the latest in national security law news. Watch the video here, if you aren?t getting enough Zoom.  This week we?ve got:...
2020-04-02
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Episode 160: This Podcast Is Invoking “P”!

This is our second lockdown episode, simulcast as a Zoom-based video!  If you didn?t believe us before about our commitment to production authenticity, well you will if you watch the video version! [ed. note: guys, that?s...
2020-03-27
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Episode 159: This Podcast Is Zoom-y!

We may be on home lockdown, but that didn?t stop us from recording!  Thanks to the magic of Zoom, we gathered online to record this episode, and just for kicks we recorded the video while...
2020-03-21
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Episode 158: What SCOTUS Can Learn from Franklin Barbecue

Are you ?working? from home now?  Perhaps it?s time to take a break and enjoy the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast.  In a discussion that takes the goal of let?s-not-prepare-too-much to new...
2020-03-11
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Episode 157: At Least There Are No Zombies…Yet

Back-to-back episodes!  After yesterday?s interview-focused show, we wanted to get right back into the mix with discussion and debate over the latest national security law news.  Tune in for:  Beyond quarantine: What happens when local...
2020-03-04
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Episode 156: This Podcast Is VUCA!

We are back with an interview-focused episode! Tune in as Professors Chesney and Vladeck interview Brigadier General John G. Baker, USMC.  General Baker is Chief Defense Counsel for the military commissions at Guantanamo. And, yes,...
2020-03-03
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Episode 155: This Podcast Is Not Wearing a Facemask (But It Did Wash Its Hands)

This week in the wild world of national security law, your co-hosts Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss and debate: The prospects for legislative change to FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), including notes on a...
2020-02-26
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Episode 154: This Podcast Is Not Just a “Piece of Metal”

This week on NSL Podcast, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The U.S. government?s formal statement to Congress on the legal rationale for its airstrike against General Soleimani Trumplandia and law enforcement:...
2020-02-19
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Episode 153: This Podcast Has All the Elsas (But No Eminem)

And we?re back, with a fresh episode at last.  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest national security law developments.  This week they cover: Donald Trump pressuring Main...
2020-02-12
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Episode 152: John Bolton Is Welcome to Testify on this Podcast

After a wholly-frivolous episode last week, we are back with?well?a slightly-frivolous episode this week.  Tune in as your co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney review and debate: The likely procedural, jurisdictional, and other legal issues...
2020-01-29
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Episode 151: This Podcast Deserves (at Least) One Vote for the Hall of Fame

Oh heavens, what were they thinking?  This week on the National Security Law Podcast, your hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney bring you?well, not a single second of national security law talk.  Nope, instead this...
2020-01-23
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Episode 150: This Podcast Can’t Spell Sesquicenteninial!

It?s episode 150, and to celebrate we have a special guest: The Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), Christopher Krebs!  That?s right, we?ve got all the cybers this week, and a fun...
2020-01-16
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Episode 149: This Podcast Will Not Serve as a Notification to Anyone About Anything

Not surprisingly, this weeks episode focuses entirely on the set of legal and policy questions raised by the airstrike that killed, among other, the Iranian general Qassim Soleimani in Iraq.  But of course there is...
2020-01-06
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Episode 148: This Podcast Is “Thug #7”

Tired of watching the impeachment?  Turn away from your monitor/tv, put in your earbuds, and go for a nice walk while listening to the latest National Security Law Podcast!  This week we have Professors Chesney...
2019-12-18
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Episode 147: Sometimes You Get a Donald J. Trump

Welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast!  This week we discuss: The two Articles of Impeachment The Inspector General?s Report on the origins and conduct of the FBI?s investigation into Russian election interference Amazon?s...
2019-12-10
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Episode 146: What’s In Your Wallet? A Subpoena!

Welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast!  Tune in as Professors Vladeck and Chesney debate and discuss the week?s national security law news, including: Trumplandia: The House Intelligence Committee?s report shines a spotlight on...
2019-12-04
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Episode 145: The Meh-mometer Is Stuck at Meh

Happy Thanksgiving to all!  If you are stuck in an airport or on a long drive this week, we?ve got you covered for at least one hour, as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate:...
2019-11-26
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Episode 144: Lawful But Awful

Episode 144 is here! It was no easy task to sort out which topics to discuss this week, but in the end the Trumplandia segment prevailed over almost all the others.  The end result?  Tune...
2019-11-20
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Episode 143: We won an award?!?

When you are done watching the impeachment hearings and just can?t take it anymore, it?s time to open up a can of ? National Security Law Podcast!  For your happy hour or other occasions, we?ve...
2019-11-13
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Episode 142: We’ve Got Company!

What fun!  We recorded this one in front of a large live audience at the Annual Review of the Field conference run by the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security, and we did...
2019-11-09
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Episode 141: The House Has Voted to Authorize This Podcast

Granted, it?s not Days of Future Past, but our episode 141 is still pretty good!  This week, Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss and debate: The al-Baghdadi raid (and misunderstandings about Congressional notification) A GTMO habeas...
2019-10-30
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Episode 140: We Almost Tried Hard!

We?ve got a short one this week, but also we didn?t plan or prep much, so we have that going for us! Tune in as Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss the 2nd Circuit oral argument...
2019-10-23
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Episode 139: Hello from Austin…Hall?

We recorded today before a live audience in Austin! Austin Hall, that is, on the campus of Harvard Law School!  Special thanks to Matt Morris and the great students of the Harvard National Security &...
2019-10-18
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Episode 138: “That’s Nobody’s Business But the Turks”

In addition to quoting They Might Be Giants lyrics, this week?s episode features cohosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck taking on three big issues: The Impeachment Inquiry & the White House Counsel?s Letter on Non-Cooperation...
2019-10-09
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Episode 137: Do Us a Favor Though Because This Podcast Has Been Through a Lot

So, you?ll never guess what we?re going to talk about in this week?s episode. [Editor?s note: Guys, you can?t just say that and then put in no further details in these shownotes. Get back to...
2019-09-26
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Episode 136: This Podcast Needs a Reboot!

And we?re back, with a lot of news to cover!  Tune in for discussion and (respectful) debate with our cohosts, Professors Vladeck and Chesney, as the review: Is it proper for the DNI to withhold...
2019-09-18
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Episode 135: Do You Hear the Podcast Sing

Tune in to the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast as your co-hosts Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss and debate: On the 18th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks: which elements of current counterterrorism...
2019-09-11
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