In this episode of 92NY Talks, Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of The Atlantic, discusses his new collection of essays, On Heroism: McCain, Milley, Mattis, and the Cowardice of Donald Trump, with MSNBC’s Alex Wagner. Expanding on his explosive reporting about Donald Trump’s trenchant disdain for military personnel, Goldberg draws upon decades of his own reporting, including key interviews with top officials such as the late Senator John McCain, former Defense Secretary James Mattis, and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley, all of whom came to oppose Trump. The conversation was recorded on September 8, 2024 in front of a live audience at The 92nd Street Y, New York.