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Clean Language and Becoming Drama Free with Caitlin Walker

96 min • 7 oktober 2024

Dr Caitlin Walker has over 30 years of facilitating diverse groups to work effectively together. She's an expert in clean language interviewing and the developer of Systemic Modelling, an approach for creating intelligent self-organising teams. She's author of two books, From Contempt to Curiosity, creating the conditions for groups to collaborate and So, you want to be DramaFree.

Caitlin’s Clean Language approach is a very practical and learnable way to help a system understand itself, whether it’s the system of one person or a team. This resonates deeply with the Cognitive Science ideas we’ve been exploring in Agile On The Mind, and so I had a great time chatting with Caitlin about her work.

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A smattering of highlights from the episode:

* Caitlin’s work using Clean Language with children at risk

* Practicing systemic modelling with spelling

* The power of Clean Questions

* Clean Language in teams

* 5 steps to Drama Free

* 3 Steps to Drama Free!

* Adjacency and the importance of measuring

* Dangers of teaching skills

* Practicing in groups

* Getting started with Clean Language

* When Daniel is working at his best it’s like what

You can find more about Clean Language at cleanlearning.co.uk



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