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The First Line of Quarkus

115 min • 2 september 2019
An airhacks.fm conversation with Emmanuel Bernard (@emmanuelbernard) about:
Amstrad PC 1512, the first PC computer ever made by Amstrad, two floppies are better than a hard drive, deleting double dots, C/PM OS, BIOS as cheating detection, creating snake game in BASIC, playing with Turbo Pascal, from GO TOs over loops to procedures, objects, aspects to functional programming, exploring Mandrake Linux, Tibco Messaging and C++, killing yourself with casting, the C discipline checker - an enforced linter, 120 errors caused by Coke break, no version control -- no time machine, starting with Java 1.2, replacing buttons with images in Swing / AWT, memory leaks in Java UI, creating ASP websites for fnac, building shopping cart with VB, going back with Visual Basic debugger, exploring Java as C# alternative, WebSphere vs. WebLogic, WebLogic was the JBoss of early 2000's, Apache Excalibur container, editing TopLink files with Eclipse IDE, replacing TopLink with early Hibernate, providing Hibernate support, the Rational Unified Process Workbench, hacking the organization is important, the gradient from hacking to politics, JOnAS was big in France, translating Hibernate documentation, patching Hibernate via CVS and email, Gavin King, Oracle and annotations as XML replacement, xdoclet was a great EJB annotation PoC, Cedric Beust created XDoclet, early Apache Geronimo participation, a French engineer will only tell you what you can do better, XML mapping with deeply nested annotations as prototype, EJB 3 specification comprised the component model and the persistence, Eclipse IDE was late with annotation support, working on EntityManager API with Bill Burke, joining forces with Java Data Objects (JDO) to participate on JPA, switching from fnac to JBoss, the first day at JBoss, Gaving King and Christian Bauer were Hibernate consultants, Steve Ebersole worked on Hibernate Core and Max Andersen on Eclipse tooling, Gavin King implemented an early bean validation prototype and Emmanuel took it over, contributing to a mature opensource project is really hard, Google App Engine wanted to use Hibernate as persistence backend, then google decided to use datanucleus.org, Book Driven Development is better than Conference Driven Development, Emmanuel started OGM - the Object Grid Mapper, in NoSQL space the model is simpler, JSON-P or JSON-B can be used as replacement for JPA entities, JDBC is hard to use what explains the success of ORM products, RedHat acquired JBoss, the switch from 200 employee company to 2000 employees company, developer is king at RedHat, RedHat acquired JBoss right after the introduction of JPA, becoming an architect, debezium was started by Randall Hauch then continued by Gunnar Morling, creating architecture slides with Google Docs, throughput driven optimizations, with containers throughput becomes less important, Java was designed for throughput and not memory efficiency and startup time, openJDK team, middleware team at Redhat had conversations about the future of Java on containers, Kubernetes is your cluster manager, WildFly is the flagship and the integration point, Sanne Grinovero was behind optimizations, Java's metaspace was too high, Java is a highly dynamic environment and therefore hard to optimize, the Excelsior JET VM, GCJ, Project Maxwell, GraalVM and the compiler is written in Java, WildFly Swarm became Thorntail and was an attempt to make the runtime smaller, Java's memory usage is the real problem, Quarkus came with the idea to make all the optimization at build time, not runtime, Emmanuel started Quarkus with Jason Greene and Bob McWhirter, the very first line of Quarkus code was written in a pub, the Quarkus project name was Shamrock what was the name of the pub, 3 months time for a PoC, hibernate, CDI, JAX-RS and JDBC drivers had to be optimized for the MVP, June 2018 was the very beginning of Quarkus, the shamrock pub is located in Australia, docker containers are immutable and the WAR deployment does not fit into this model, ThornTail's hollow JARs separate the business logic from the architecture, one of the Quarkus inspirations is the Play framework, Hibernate Panache got the idea from Play persistence, wad.sh watches changes and redeploys WARs on-the-fly, QuarkEE makes Quarkus look like a Java EE application, Quarkus on GraalVM is the perfect storm, Jakarta EE is a good way to reset Java EE expectations, the j4k conference,

Emmanuel Bernard on twitter: @emmanuelbernard, Emannuel's website: https://emmanuelbernard.com

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