alphalist.CTO Podcast – For CTOs and Technical Leaders
Invest your engineering resources better by truly understanding the core problem your product needs to solve with this CTO podcast featuring Bob Moesta, co-architect of the Jobs to be Done Theory, who has developed and launched over 3500 products.
As an engineer-turned-product-guru, Bob’s explanation of Product Discovery will delight your nerd brain 🧠 (complete with references to set theory, push-pull forces, and the problem space) while being super practical 🔧about the challenges CTOs are dealing with (like scope creep and trade offs).
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About Bob Moesta: BOB MOESTA is a teacher, builder, entrepreneur, and co-founder at The Re-Wired Group, a design firm in Detroit, Michigan. Bob has developed & launched over 3,500 products and sold everything from design services, software, and houses to consumer electronics, and investment services. He’s an adjunct lecturer at Kellogg School at Northwestern University and the author of Choosing College, Demand Side Sales 101, and Learning to Build.
QUOTES: "Well, if you think about it, 70% of our life cycle costs are fixed in the first 10% of how we develop and set up a new platform. And yet we spend all the money usually on the backend. And we don't spend that time upfront thinking. And so the more we can spend that time upfront thinking about the right things in the boundaries and understanding kind of the limitations, we then will actually have a better understanding of what to build and what to know."
##Timestamps## (Approx) (00:00) Introduction (05:18) Who is Bob Moesta (07:09) Bob Moesta's Journey in Learning How to Build (08:23) Understanding the Customer's Perspective (08:55) 'Build it and They Will Come' Myth (09:20) Specific Problems People Have (09:54) Limits of Personas in Product Design (10:31) Understanding the Buying Process (11:10) Struggling Moment Insights (11:36) Interrogation Methods in Customer Understanding (13:12) Impulse Buying Discussion (13:31) Context and Outcome in Purchases (15:59) Trade-offs Customers Make (16:11) Espresso Machine Case Study (17:27) Forces in Purchase Decisions (21:19) Total Addressable Market's Role (21:48) Serviceable Addressable Market Importance (24:34) Hypothesis-Building Research (25:34) 4 Forces Helping Change (26:26) Speaking to Past Buyers (27:03) AIDA's Place in Sales (28:03) Jobs to be Done Building Blocks (29:14) Applying Jobs to be Done (29:46) Mormon Church Case Study (30:05) CrossFit as Religion's 'Competitor' (31:09) Getting Started with JTBD (31:16) Top Innovators' Skills (31:51) How People Buy (32:15) Questions for Recent Customers (32:44) Cross Functional Interviews (33:26) Understanding Requirements (33:45) Quantitative vs Qualitative Data (33:57) Choosing the Right Variables (34:44) Prototyping with Qualitative Data (35:12) Iterative Framework Application (36:26) Cross-Functional Collaboration (36:34) Interview Conductors (37:07) Aligning Language and Understanding (37:37) Engineer’s Blindspot (41:20) Innovation Process (42:30) Personas vs. Jobs (43:15) Bitchin' or Switching? Struggle and Workarounds (44:00) Progress Customers Try to Make (44:32) Identifying What Doesn't Matter (45:55) Observation Muscle (46:38) Time Machine (49:32) Advice to Younger Self
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