Jenna Lyons' Den (with Kara Berry)

Sarah receives a text message from Ralph, letting her know he doesn't appreciate what she's been saying about - oh wait, he got a digit wrong from her cell. Off to copy/paste for Marlo! Relieved to avoid any long-form about Ralph and Drew's marriage, Sarah does some vocal warm-ups to get ready to: long-form about Ralph and Drew's marriage. And who better to deep dive the ins and outs of all things Housewifery than Kara Berry (not Katy Perry!), host of the podcast "Everyone's Business But Mine." Sarah and Kara (say that five times fast) discuss the toxic cycle when a Housewife tries to convince her cast (and audience) that her partner isn't the devil incarnate (BCC, Lenny and Lisa, Jen and Ryan, and, you guessed it, Drew and Ralph). They also unpack a cast repositioning of Jenna's vulnerability as a sign of elitism, whether Jessel was looking at the 'sexiness' of her gifted lingerie through the male gaze (and why Uba's understanding was so key), the origin story of Sai's chameleon-esque ability which was based out of survival, and a conversation on how women dress through the lens of gender, identity, and sexuality (inspired by Jenna's comments). Whether you wear a skirt, pants, or none of the above, this convo is freshly pressed - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 437!

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