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S04 Ep. 09 Jocelynn Pearl – The best use case of Web3 so far: DeSci

45 min • 7 februari 2023

Jocelynn Pearl is a biotech scientist, podcaster, and company builder. She co-founded LabDAO, a web3 marketplace for life science research, and curates The DeSci Wiki, which tracks projects and DAOs in the web3 x science sector. She is also the host of the Lady Scientist Podcast and UltraRare The Podcast, a show featuring leaders in DeSci.

DeSci, or Decentralized Science (like the acronym DeFi for decentralized finance), expands some of the principles of blockchain technology and distributed ownership to science. The impact is potentially huge in many aspects: science communities' rules, funding and incentive structures, daily work habits, intellectual property rights, etc.

Thanks to our conversation with Jocelynn, we discover the potential of DeSci by looking into the organizational aspects of decentralized communities and exploring which science branches may benefit most from its potential. Finally, Jocelynn also mentions how companies are evolving the DeSci vertical, probably providing one of the best use cases of Web3 so far.

Key Highlights
👉 DeSci - one of the best use cases for Web3 so far.
👉 Democratization and new paths to independent funding.
👉 Fixing broken incentive structures in research.
👉 Examining potential drawbacks and limits of less institutionalized science.
👉 Impacts of DeSci over science institutions.
👉 The emergence of broader collaborations and types of scientists.

Topics (Chapters)
(00:00) Jocelynn Pearl’s opening quote
(00:42) Introducing Jocelynn Pearl and this episode topic
(02:35) What decentralized science is
(07:01) Which major institutions will be transformed by DeSci?
(10:51) The DeSci impact in the short term
(17:34) Funding and structures of science: how they currently work
(23:00) Everything is “tokenizable”?
(25:39) Will there be freelance scientists?
(31:17) What about tools?
(35:02) Collaboration and ontological convergence
(39:34) Beyond healthcare
(40:44) Jocelynn Pearl’s next projects
(41:38) Jocelynn Pearl’s breadcrumbs

Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/jocelynn-pearl

To find out more about Jocelynn’s work:
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/jocelynnpearl
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelynnpearlphd
- Website: https://www.jocelynnpearl.com
- UltraRare The Podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/ultrarare
- Lady Scientist Podcast: https://rss.com/podcasts/ladyscientistpodcast

Other references and mentions:
- LabDAO (on Discord): https://discord.com/invite/labdao
- DeSci Wiki: DeSci Wiki
- Reinventing Organizations: https://www.reinventingorganizations.com
- talentDAO: https://www.talentdao.io
- Smart Contract Research Forum: https://www.smartcontractresearch.org
- Gassing the Miracle Machine, Not Boring: https://www.notboring.co/p/gassing-the-miracle-machine
- Crowd Funded Cures: https://crowdfundedcures.org
- Flagship Pioneering: https://www.flagshippioneering.com
- NFX Bio: https://www.nfx.com/post/launching-nfx-bio
- Unbundling Work from Employment - Li Jin: https://li.substack.com/p/unbundling-work-from-employment
- Scispot: https://www.scispot.com
- Benchling: https://www.benchling.com
- Science Exchange: https://ww2.scienceexchange.com/s

Jocelynn’s suggested breadcrumbs (things listeners should check out):
- Reinventing Discovery - Michael A. Nielsen: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691202846/reinventing-discovery
- Working in Public - Nadia Eghbal: https://press.stripe.com/working-in-public

Recorded on 18 October 2022.

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