184. Who’s Driving the Dreambus? – A Conversation with Tim Freke and Lisa Cairns

In Who’s Driving the Dreambus? filmmakers Boris and Claire Jansch go on a personal journey to unravel what it means to be alive. This radical and challenging documentary ventures into the heart of the mystery of identity, flipping the idea of spiritual endeavor on its head, revealing a message so profound and yet so simple that it might just end the search. Who’s Driving the Dreambus? LIVE was a two-day conference held in London in August 2013. This is a conversation with two of the speakers at that conference. Tim Freke is the standup philosopher – a concept he developed from the ancient idea of a philosopher as a traveling ‘spiritual entertainer’ who transformed people’s consciousness. He is pioneering an accessible new way to experience a profound spiritual awakening, which fully embraces our tender, vulnerable, flawed humanity. He has spent his life exploring the awakened state he often simply calls the ‘mystery experience’ and is able to guide others directly to it. Other interviews with Tim here, here, and here. Lisa Cairns talks worldwide with people about non-duality. Oneness. The aliveness that always is – no matter what is imagined in it – subject/object, good/bad, right/wrong, beauty/ugly, me/you. It has always been this – life undivided – with a bittersweet daydream of separation.  She points to the illusory dream of “I” which seems to give the energetic appearance of separation from life itself, and to the boundless freedom that has always been here – that never left and was never lost. Transcript of this conversation Interview conducted 7/21/2013 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to "Who's Driving the Dream Bus?" 00:04:40 - Perspectives on the Film and the Illusion of Choice 00:10:46 - The Dreamer and the Dream 00:13:09 - The initiatory process and the mystical marriage 00:15:19 - Explorers of the Mystery 00:17:40 - The Illusion of Interpretation 00:20:06 - The Articulation of Consciousness 00:22:01 - The Experience of Consciousness 00:24:11 - Different Perspectives and Consciousness 00:26:16 - The Spectrum of Non-Duality 00:28:59 - The Nature of Reality 00:31:21 - The Flow of Love and the Manyness of Things 00:33:47 - The Paradox of Boundaries and Unboundedness 00:36:10 - Intrinsic Fascination with Colors and Light 00:38:49 - The Illusion of Separation and Oneness 00:40:59 - The Spontaneous Process of Recognition in Everyday Life 00:42:55 - The Importance of Unconscious Competence 00:44:55 - The Paradoxical Nature of Thought 00:47:19 - The Dynamic Universe 00:50:09 - The Mystery of Individuated Complexity 00:52:40 - Simplicity and Fulfillment 00:55:27 - The Significance of Love and Oneness 00:59:07 - The Practical Significance of Spirituality 01:02:38 - The Impersonal Nature of Love 01:05:06 - The Indistinguishability of Better or Worse 01:07:21 - The Symphony of Life 01:09:48 - The Illusion of Good and Bad Actions 01:11:50 - The Illusion of Hot and Cold 01:14:21 - The Revelation of Love and Personal Connection 01:17:30 - Conference Information on batgap.com Save Save Save