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Catalyst with Shayle Kann

How to build more hydropower

55 min • 20 april 2023

Hydropower is the world’s largest source of renewable electricity today, according to the IEA. Like gas peaker plants, it’s highly dispatchable, meaning it can complement intermittent renewables like wind and solar. 

And we could get a lot more of it. The IEA estimates that we could double the amount of energy produced globally. One peer-reviewed study found that global economic potential for hydropower was 21,000 terawatt hours per year, more than five times the current generation today. 

So how could we deploy more hydropower?

In this episode, guest host Lara Pierpoint talks to Gia Schneider, co-founder and CEO of Natel Energy, a hydropower technology company. One key argument Gia makes is that if we can build smaller projects with lower ecosystem impacts, we can tap into more zero-carbon power. 

Gia and Lara talk through: 

  • How quickly we need to build more hydropower to meet 2050 net-zero targets
  • The benefits of traditional hydro as a full-stack grid resource Different types of hydro technology like run of river, hydrokinetic, and traditional large-scale dams
  • Why smaller, more distributed systems are key to unlocking hydropower potential
  • Different technologies to manage fish and debris like bypass channels, screens and fish-safe turbines
  • The co-benefits of improving riverine landscapes, including making ecosystems and hydroelectric infrastructure more resilient to climate change
  • How hydrology and forecasting can help us better manage dams in a changing climate


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Catalyst is a co-production of Post Script Media and Canary Media.

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