Guest: TV Producer John Lloyd

TV Producer and Writer John LLoyd who's CV reads Black Adder, Not The NineO'Clock News, Spitting Image and Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy comes on the pod. It's a joy for David and Joe but they are nervous and worry they'll come across as thickies. John talks about mid life crisis and doing the right thing. David asks how big the Spitting Image puppets are.

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