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Arno Michaelis (author & activist, former white supremacist)

104 min • 5 april 2022

Arno Michaelis is a former white supremacist who now helps people leave extremist organizations.  He has written two books- "My Life After Hate" as well as "The Gift of Our Wounds" (co-written with Pardeep Singh Kaleka).  In this episode we discuss his story of joining and leaving the white supremacist organization, diversity of thought, racism today and what can be done about it.   

0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:59 - Former White Nationalist Turned Activist 
0:04:10 - Background & Childhood 
0:10:34 - From Breakdancing to Punk 
0:17:55 - Drinking, Fighting & Transition to White Nationalism 
0:23:07 - Indoctrination & Recruitment 
0:31:10 - Homosexuality 
0:34:35 - Native American 
0:37:40 - Fallacies with White Nationalism 
0:42:05 - Interactions with People Who Refused to Hate 
0:50:40 - Losing Friends & Walking Away 
0:53:38 - Goal of White Nationalism 
0:58:04 - Diversity of Thought
1:01:33 - Prevention of Hate & Exploited Needs 
1:07:13 - Community & Police Issues 
1:09:29 - Media, Fear & Collective Social Conscious 
1:14:20 - Traveling & Interacting with People In Real Life 
1:17:30 - White Supremacy & Racism in the World Today 
1:31:35 - Sikh Culture, Assumptions & Politics 
1:41:40 - Wrap Up 

The Gift of Our Wounds book:
https://www.amazon.com/Gift-Our-Wounds-Supremacist-Forgiveness/dp/1250107547

Parents 4 Peace website:
https://www.parents4peace.org

Chuck Shute website:
http://chuckshute.com

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