In this episode, Ole Lensmar talks with Joe Karp, DevOps Architect at UWM, about what it really takes to build a testing culture inside a modern, cloud-native organization. Joe shares how his team intentionally designed clear ownership between developers, QA engineers, and platform teams—and why empowering devs to own their testing is key to scaling quality across hundreds of services.
From infrastructure-level chaos testing to critical-path monitoring in production, Joe walks through the tooling, strategies, and cultural shifts that enabled UWM to test across multi-cloud, multi-cluster environments. They discuss why off-the-shelf tools often fall short, how internal platforms should be treated like products, and what it means to build resilience into both systems and teams.
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