Modeling Over Mocking: Building Realistic Test Systems for Cloud Native Apps with Oleg Nenashev

In this episode, Ole sits down with Oleg Nenashev—CNCF Ambassador, open source advocate, Jenkins Maintainer, and Lead Developer Advocate at Gradle—to unpack the evolving world of cloud native testing. From the rise of integration testing to the role of tools like Testcontainers and WireMock, Oleg shares why modeling realistic systems is more powerful (and more reliable) than traditional mocking. They explore the complexities of testing in Kubernetes and why Java is experiencing a renaissance in the cloud native ecosystem.

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