Cold

Life on death row is something we don't hear much about. Our guest is former Utah State prison warden Ken Shulsen. He worked almost every job at the prison including overseeing several high-profile executions. He was once taken hostage in a prison riot. Amy and Sheryl also talk big moments from Episode 12 and Cold host Dave Cawley responds to a voicemail question.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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 Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

The disappearance of Joyce Yost has had a multi-generational impact, leaving her children and grandchildren trapped in a repeating nightmare of court hearings and appeals. Following Doug Lovell's 2015 conviction for Joyce's murder, the jury faces the question of whether or not to return him to death row. Their only alternative: life with the chance for parole, which would mean Joyce Yost's killer might some day walk free again.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell), Scott Mitchell (as Chuck Thompson), Amy Donaldson (as Becky Douglas)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

A man who defended Doug Lovell in court has a few things to say about what went down. Hosts Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley spoke with defense attorney Mike Bouwhuis. Cold Host Dave Cawley joins the show for big moments.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Ann Dent, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

A turn to religion for Douglas Lovell as he heads toward trial, 30 long years after the crime. He finds sympathy and support among several people of faith, particularly bishops for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Just weeks before his trial is to begin, a man walking his dog spots a human skull at the base of a hill along the same highway where Doug had burned Joyce Yost's clothes on the morning following her murder.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell), Annie Knox (as Theresa Greaves)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Investigators conducted five official searches for Joyce Yost's body, but came up empty. Cadaver dogs were used multiple times. Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with cadaver dog trainer Jayson Harames with Utah Search Dogs about the abilities and limitations of dogs in finding human remains.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

The promise of returning Joyce Yost's body has fallen through, leaving Doug Lovell with a death sentence. Joyce's children continue pressing for answers about their missing mother's final resting place, while Doug embarks on a more than decade-long series of legal appeals in the hopes of having with guilty plea withdrawn. In the middle of that effort, a new informant named Jared Briggs comes forward claiming to know the actual location of Joyce Yost's remains.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

When a criminal defendant gets the death penalty it can feel like a life sentence to the families of the victims. Amy and Sheryl speak with Matt Hunsaker, whose mother, Maurine Hunsaker, was murdered when he was 10 years old in 1986. The ladies also speak with former capital case defense attorney Mark Moffat about the state of the death penalty in Utah. Lastly, Amy and Sheryl talk about what it's like to witness a firing squad execution, which they've each done.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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 If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States. 

 Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

The stakes are set for Doug Lovell as he heads toward trial for the murder of Joyce Yost. The capital murder charge carries a potential sentence of death. His only leverage: returning Joyce's body to her family. Doug makes a deal as the clock winds down, promising to lead police to Joyce's grave. Will he really follow through?

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

What is it like to work as a detective investigating Cold cases? Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley sat down with Special Agent Brian Davis of the Utah State Bureau of Investigation and member of the state's new Cold Case Unit. He discusses what it's like to investigate a murder when there is no body and the biggest, most rewarding case of his career.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Follow Cold Season 3: The Search for Sheree wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all 10 episodes ad-free only on Amazon Music. Or you can listen early and ad-free on Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Cold season 2 is available on Amazon Music, Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app. Listen to Cold season 1 wherever you get your podcasts. You can also ask Alexa to play the Cold podcast on your Echo device.

 Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

A reckoning comes for Doug Lovell, in the form of a capital murder charge. In a never-before-public audio recording, Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronts Doug about the murder of Joyce Yost. The walls close in and Doug turns to his confidant and co-conspirator: his ex-wife Rhonda Buttars. He doesn't realize Rhonda has obtained immunity and is working against him.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

A prison snitch can sometimes provide vital leads about a case, but is it always reliable information? Amy Donaldson and Ann Dent talk with former Salt Lake Police chief Chris Burbank about the pros and cons of information coming from a suspected criminal. Chris currently serves on a national level as the Vice President of law enforcement strategy for the Center for Policing Equity.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

More than five years have passed since Joyce Yost disappeared. A judge declares her deceased in the eyes of the law, even without her body as evidence of a murder. South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter receives a surprise tip from a prison informant, who suggests Doug Lovell might have played a role not only in Joyce Yost's murder but also in the disappearance of another Ogden-area woman.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Andy Farnsworth (as Jeff Pratt), Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

An immunity deal becomes a major development in the disappearance of Joyce Yost. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings about when it is and when it isn't a good idea to promise immunity. Doug Lovell got out of prison early thanks to the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole. The ladies also speak with former Board of Pardons chair Mike Sibbits about deciding to let inmates out early.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

A long shot lead claiming Joyce Yost had died at the hands of a satanic coven took an unexpected turn when South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronted Doug Lovell's ex-wife in April of 1991. Rhonda Buttars came clean to Carpenter, breaking open his investigation more than five years after Joyce's disappearance. But Rhonda did more than just talk. She recorded Doug Lovell while wearing a wire.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Elizabeth Smart captured the attention of the nation when she was kidnapped at knife-point from her Salt Lake City home in June of 2002. She was 14 years old. Investigators found her nine months later and arrested her kidnappers, Brian David Mitchell and his wife Wanda Barzee. Mitchell repeatedly raped Elizabeth while she was captive. In the years since, Elizabeth has become an advocate for survivors and has established a foundation to help through education, prevention and recovery, elizabethsmartfoundation.org. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley ask Elizabeth about the hardest parts in her healing, her struggles with the justice system and her advice to other survivors.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your perspective. #JusticeForJoyceYost #TalkingCold Twitter Instagram Facebook

If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Doug Lovell's conviction for the rape of Joyce Yost carries a heavy penalty: 15 years-to-life in prison. With Doug safely in custody, South Ogden police turn their attention on his wife, Rhonda. The investigation stalls however, leaving the newly assigned lead detective Terry Carpenter chasing a strange lead involving a claim Joyce died at the hands of a satanic coven.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Saige Miller (as Rhonda Lovell), Ethan Millard (as Archie Smith), Alex Kirry (as Murray Miron)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Joyce Yost went to police. She pressed charges, but it wasn't an easy process. The criminal justice system aspires to ensure justice is served while protecting the rights of the accused. But for victims, it sometimes feels as though they are not being believed. It repeats the horror of the crime over and over. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Ann Dent are joined by Kim Cordova, a former prosecutor and defense attorney for a look at the system from both sides. Plus, Ann and Amy talk BIG moments from Episodes 3 and 4 of Cold.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your perspective. #JusticeForJoyceYost #TalkingCold Twitter Instagram Facebook

If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Joyce Yost has disappeared. Her daughter begs South Ogden police to begin a search, but help is slow in coming. Detectives find nothing out of place in Joyce's apartment, but they miss a major clue suggesting an act of violence occurred right on Joyce's own bed. In Joyce's absence, an unexpected ally steps forward to bring her story before a jury in the rape case against Doug Lovell.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Joyce Yost was followed home, threatened and raped by someone she didn't know, the rarest type of sexual assault. Despite being terrified, Joyce reluctantly reported to police. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley speak with Sonya Martinez-Ortiz, Executive Director of the Rape Recovery Center about how trauma manifests differently for different people, victim blaming and how society can do better.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Doug Lovell turns to some old friends in the hopes of silencing Joyce Yost before she can testify. Joyce takes the stand at a preliminary hearing and tells the story of her sexual assault. Through a series of missteps and miscommunications, Lovell repeatedly slips through the fingers of police as the case heads toward trial.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• Additional songs by Outrageous used with permission
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Content advisory: This episode includes discussion of rape and sexual assault.

A confrontation in the carport followed by an assault from a stranger. Joyce Yost survives a terrifying attack. Then, with some reluctance, she reports what had happened to the police. Detective Bill Holthaus interviews Joyce before heading out to find the man who'd assaulted her: Douglas Lovell.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Dave Cawley
• Audio mixing: Dave Cawley
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Join hosts Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley as they talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding. This week’s guest is Cold podcast host/researcher/creator Dave Cawley.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Our story begins with a barrage of bouquets, dozens of unsolicited yellow roses sent by a mysterious male admirer. We then meet a young Joyce Yost in Minnesota and follow her path to Utah. At the same time, a young man named Douglas Lovell finds himself on the wrong side of the law, landing in prison for armed robbery.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Douglas Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Josh Powell became a murder suspect when his wife Susan Powell disappeared from their home in West Valley City, Utah on December 7, 2009. Police have never located Susan's body. Prosecutors never charged Josh with a crime, in spite of a large body of circumstantial evidence. Many Cold season 1 listeners have asked "why not?" Isn't it possible to win a murder case without a body? Part of the answer might rest with the case of Joyce Yost, another Utah woman who'd disappeared nearly a quarter of a century earlier.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Dave Cawley
• Audio mixing: Dave Cawley
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Introducing Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce Yost.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your thoughts: #JusticeForJoyceYost #ColdPodcast Twitter Instagram Facebook

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

Additional case materials including photos, videos and a who's who list at https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/.

Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Dave Cawley
• Audio mixing: Dave Cawley
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

Secret police wiretap records in the Susan Powell case come to light for the first time, even as Susan Powell's parents fight for change in the state of Washington. This bonus episode takes you behind closed doors, into the private communications of Josh Powell, his brother Michael Powell, sister Alina Powell and father Steve Powell during "Operation Tsunami." What police learned by listening in on their phone calls helped explain why some officers feared for the safety of Susan's sons, Charlie and Braden, in the months leading up to their deaths at the hands of their father.

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/justice-delayed-josh-powell-wiretap-full-transcript

Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, Dave Cawley dives into the digital evidence gathered by police during their investigation. Digital forensics experts from Eide Bailly describe the ongoing efforts to crack Josh Powell's encryption. We also share a significant discovery about ownership of images that played a key part in the sequence of events leading up to Josh's murder-suicide.

For the past four years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/project-sunlight-josh-powell-encrypted-hard-drive-full-transcript/

Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, we hear from three people who were involved in car crashes with Josh Powell. In each case, records show Josh made questionable claims about being injured and sought settlements from insurance companies. The history of possible fraud raises new questions about possible motives.

For the past four years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/josh-powell-car-crash-con-insurance-scam-full-transcript

Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, we examine data from a GPS tracker that police hid on her husband Josh Powell's minivan the day after the disappearance. It reveals Josh visited several dumpsters in the days, weeks and months after Susan vanished. The tracking data also reveals Powell parked next to an Idaho canal late one December night.

For the past four years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/josh-powell-dumpster-drops-gps-full-transcript

A persistent theory surfaced in the days immediately after Susan Powell disappeared: perhaps Josh Powell had hidden her body in Nutty Putty Cave. The narrow passage on the fringe of Utah's West Desert had been the site of a high-profile caving accident. A spelunker named John Edward Jones became trapped in Nutty Putty just days before Susan Powell's disappearance. In this bonus episode of Cold, first released in 2019 on the Wondery+ subscription service, Dave Cawley puts the theory to the test in the hopes of answering the question: could Susan Powell's body be in Nutty Putty Cave?

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/nutty-putty-cave-susan-powell-full-transcript

West Valley City police did not act alone in their investigation of Susan Powell's disappearance. This bonus episode of Cold, first released in 2019 on the Wondery+ subscription service, focuses on the work of U.S. Marshal Derryl Spencer. He played "good cop" to Josh Powell and his father, Steve Powell, hoping to earn their trust during a pivotal period of the investigation. Spencer even secretly recorded a meeting with Steve Powell in Puyallup in the hopes Steve might slip up and reveal Susan's whereabouts.

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/marshal-misdirection-here-lies-death-full-transcript

Josh Powell's audio journals provide unique insight into his mindset during a formative time of his life: the period when he first met and married Susan Cox. Josh's secret audio diaries had never been heard before by anyone but police before they were uncovered in Cold. This bonus episode, first released in 2019 on the Wondery+ subscription service, is a deep dive into one of those audio journals with clinical psychologist Matt Woolley. He points out the red flag behaviors revealed by Josh Powell's words, discusses narcissistic personality disorder and delves into the unique dynamic between Josh and his father, Steve Powell.

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/anatomy-of-an-audio-journal-full-transcript

Nearly 10 years have elapsed since Susan Powell's disappearance. Her body has still not been found. The investigation remains a cold case. In recent years, Susan's friends and family have focused their effort on sharing the story as a cautionary tale. They hope showing the warning signs of domestic abuse can help others safely escape dangerous relationships. In this season finale for Cold, Dave shares his theory on what he believes happened to Susan.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/angel-of-hope-susan-powell-theory-full-transcript

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West Valley City police made one final push before declaring the Susan Powell case cold in 2013, interrogating Josh Powell's uncle Maurice Leach in Oregon. Meanwhile, Susan's family fought for change, both in the courts and at the Washington statehouse. Josh's mom, Terri Powell, went to court in Utah to argue for her share of the life insurance money. Twice-convicted sex offender Steve Powell died alone from heart failure.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/cold-case-full-transcript

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A jailhouse informant calling himself "Cowboy" provided police with a promising tip early in the search for Susan Powell. He said Josh Powell had spent time with an elusive stripper named Summer. Find Summer, find Susan. Detectives launched an all-out hunt for Summer that stretched on for years, yet failed to turn up any new information. It was just one among hundreds of tips in the Powell investigation that wasted time and resources, never bringing police any closer to finding Susan.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/chasing-leads-josh-powell-stripper-full-transcript

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After the deaths of Josh, Charlie and Braden, West Valley police refocused their investigation on Josh Powell's youngest brother. The mercurial Michael Powell made a play for Josh and Susan Powell's life insurance, ending up entangled in an interpleader lawsuit. During a civil deposition, he lied about his encrypted emails and Facebook snooping with Josh.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/fall-of-the-house-of-powell-life-insurance-full-transcript

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Josh Powell carries out his final act, killing his sons Charlie and Braden by setting fire to his rented home in Graham, Wash. during a court-authorized visit. In the wake of the fire, Susan Powell's family and friends find comfort in their community. West Valley police and Pierce County sheriff's deputies seek clues in the charred remains of the house, hoping that Josh might at last point them to Susan's final resting place.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/killing-susans-sons-murder-suicide-full-transcript

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Josh Powell went to court in Washington in a bid to get his sons, Charlie and Braden, returned to him. West Valley City police warned the social workers they'd found incestuous cartoon pornography on Josh's computer. After reviewing those images, forensic psychologist James Manley suggested Josh undergo a psychosexual evaluation. Meantime, detectives puzzled over why Josh's brother, Michael Powell, sold his 1997 Ford Taurus to Lindell Auto in Pendleton, Ore. just weeks after Susan Powell's disappearance.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/4thekidzz-josh-powell-custody-battle-full-transcript

With the wiretap winding down, West Valley police returned to Utah's West Desert with cadaver dogs. They found what at first appeared to be a grave site, but soon discovered it held no sign of Susan. Meantime, digging of a different sort on Josh Powell's computers and digital devices turned up new leads. The FBI and U.S. Secret Service encountered one encrypted hard drive that resisted every effort to view its contents.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/topaz-mountain-human-remains-full-transcript

West Valley City police were running out of options. Every traditional approach to the Susan Powell case had failed. So, during the summer of 2011, detectives began brainstorming plans for a major, multi-state operation code-named Tsunami. It all hinged on the use of a court-authorized wiretap to monitor Josh Powell's phone calls, in the hopes he would let slip some important clue about the fate of his missing wife. To stimulate that conversation, police staged a bizarre public search in Ely, Nevada and they raided the Puyallup, Washington home of Josh's father, Steve Powell.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/operation-tsunami-full-transcript

Josh and Susan Powell's oldest son, Charlie, started to open up about his missing mommy in 2010 as he attended the Mel Korum YMCA and started kindergarten at Carson Elementary School. Charlie's comments about killing bears and Mormons raised alarm for summer camp counselors and his teacher, Tammy Forman. Meanwhile, West Valley City police took their investigation in a new direction, planning to introduce Josh to a possible romantic interest on a Seattle commuter train.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Steve Powell sang to the FBI just months into the search for his missing daughter-in-law Susan Powell. Agents tried to warn him that his son, Josh Powell, was likely a murderer and could kill again. Steve's bizarre views came under even more intense scrutiny after West Valley City police discovered he'd written and performed songs about Susan using the alias Steve Chantrey. He had even convinced Susan to sing background vocals for his planned album, "Light of Seattle."

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/light-of-seattle-steve-powell-songs-full-transcript

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Josh Powell abandoned his home on Sarah Circle less than two weeks after the disappearance of his wife, Susan. He retreated to Puyallup, Washington and the home of his father, Steve Powell. On both ends of the move, he called on members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to help him load and unload his belongings. He never realized one of those volunteers was actually a federal agent. Soon afterward, Josh's estranged older sister Jennifer Graves approached West Valley City police with a proposal. Jennifer volunteered to wear a wire and confront her brother.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/jennifer-graves-wearing-a-wire-full-transcript

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Josh Powell told a group of his wife's friends and coworkers a year before she disappeared that if he were ever to commit murder, he'd dispose of the body by dropping it down an abandoned mine. That and other clues led West Valley City police to launch an exhaustive search abandoned mines in Utah's West Desert, beginning just days after Susan Powell's disappearance. They kept that effort secret, even as frustrated volunteers launched their own searches for Susan's body across the Great Basin. Now, the full story of the secret mine search comes to light for the first time.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Josh Powell went off the grid for 18 hours after avoiding arrest on Dec. 8, 2009. He popped up the next afternoon in Tremonton, Utah. Police soon learned he'd put 807 miles on a rental car. The news media learned of Susan Powell's disappearance and began to hound Josh, even as his own neighbors turned against him. In the middle of all of this, Josh went to a physical therapist and was diagnosed with a rotator cuff injury -- something unknown even to police until now.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/josh-powell-in-the-wind-rental-car-full-transcript

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The criminal investigation into Susan Powell's disappearance kicked into high gear on Dec. 8, 2009. Josh Powell frantically cleaned his house and minivan before meeting detective Ellis Maxwell for a tense second interview. In secret warrants, West Valley City police identified Josh as their sole suspect in Susan's presumed kidnapping and murder. However, they narrowly missed their best chance of finding her.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/10-minutes-josh-powell-police-interview-full-transcript

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Josh and Susan Powell's daycare provider, Debbie Caldwell, sounded an alarm when the couple's boys, Charlie and Braden Powell, failed to arrive at her home on the morning of Monday, Dec. 7, 2009. West Valley City police detective Ellis Maxwell drew the assignment of locating the missing family that day and discovered two box fans in the missing family's home, pointed at the couch. When Josh Powell returned to Sarah Circle with the boys that afternoon, Maxwell was waiting with a long list of questions.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/find-susan-cox-powell-full-transcript

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Susan Powell feared for her life. She braced for divorce as her marriage to Josh Powell reached its lowest point in 2008, but worried how he would react. She even wrote a secret last will and testament that said, "If I die, it may not be an accident, even if it looks like one." Josh had learned from his dad Steve Powell's divorce and made preparations of his own. He set up a trust that would give him control of Susan's $1,000,000 life insurance policy in the case of her untimely death.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/susan-powell-faith-and-finances-full-transcript/

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Susan Cox married Josh Powell after only 6 months of courtship. She immediately found herself under the lens of her father-in-law Steven Powell's video camera. The camcorder even captured Steve's confession of love for his daughter-in-law Susan Powell in July of 2013. She rejected him, not realizing he had stalked her and stolen her journals, underwear and hygiene products.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos, and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads, and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/wake-up-little-susie-susan-cox-powell-full-transcript

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Josh Powell believed in his own greatness from at least age 5. So why wouldn't any girls date him? Why did his only other serious girlfriend before Susan Cox run away in fear? Perhaps because he inherited some of his father Steven Powell's bizarre beliefs about relationships and marriage. This episode tells the story of the one who got away from Josh Powell, a full decade before the disappearance of Susan Powell made him the focus of a multi-state murder investigation.

For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos, and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads, and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/to-all-the-girls-josh-powell-full-transcript/

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Susan Powell vanished from her home in West Valley City, Utah on a cold December day in 2009. Her husband, Josh Powell had taken the couple's two sons out camping in a blizzard. He claimed to have no idea where his wife had gone. Susan has never been found. Josh was never arrested or charged with a crime, though police suspected he murdered Susan in cold blood. Reporter Dave Cawley has spent years pouring over this cold case mystery. In Prelude, he sets the stage for an unbelievable true story.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/prelude-full-transcript

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