Counter-Points

Thorin and Maniac discuss results from IEM Cologne, why SAW are being overrated, the electrifying FaZe win over Team Liquid, what Vitality need to do to win the event, what another title would mean for NAVI, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss narratives around IEM Cologne and BLAST Fall Groups, why Team Spirit may be the best team in the world right now, a change that NAVI needs to consider, issues at FaZe, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss massive roster moves at Team Liquid and G2, past clues that Twistzz intended to IGL eventually, why NiKo made the correct decision to not IGL for G2, the rumored Cloud9 roster, the competitive mentality for ZywOo and other French players, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac are joined by caster Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill to discuss the state of Counter-strike esports, roster moves at G2, why Team Spirit could be the best team in the world, the potential for superstar players to play with each other on the same team, ZywOo continuing to choke, whether NAVI made a mistake in keeping their lineup together, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss cadiaN's departure from Team Liquid, sh1ro's strong performances being overshadowed by donk, the dynamics of Team Spirit, a point on Vitality from the latest episode of Snake and Banter with Richard Lewis, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac discuss recent showings from Vitality, Team Spirit, and G2, ZywOo falling in yet another big final, donk getting cooked at IEM Dallas, Stewie2k's performance as a stand-in, potential paths forward for G2, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss ESL Pro League Grand Finals between MOUZ and Vitality, the skill that s1mple has always used that ZywOo needs to pick up on, Vitality's chances at winning the Shanghai Major, hype around the current Astralis lineup, blameF joining Fnatic, pro and community takes on dev1ce , and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss results from ESL Pro League, a roster rumor that degster will replace nicodoz on HEROIC, narratives surrounding "toxic" and "nice players, hallzerk and Complexity's recent performances, expectations for MOUZ at this event, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac discuss results from ESL Pro League, Astralis returning to exciting form, Team Falcons' slump & why fans need to give the roster more time, potential problems at Virtus.pro with electroNic, continued strong performances by The MongolZ, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss some what if scenarios for the recent PGL Major, roster rumors surrounding m0NESY and Cloud9, the current status of G2, ZywOo and Vitality's performances this year, the strength of the CIS region, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss the PGL Copenhagen Major Playoffs, why Team Spirit are the favorites + angles where FaZe can defeat them, the hype potential semifinal between Vitality and Spirit, Ax1Le showing up for Cloud9, MOUZ and Eternal Fire's statuses as dark horses, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac present narratives surrounding the CS2 PGL Copenhagen Major, discussing tournament favorites Spirit, Vitality, and FaZe, dark horses like Heroic, MOUZ, and Eternal Fire, and superstar players like donk and ZywOo.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss Astralis, Falcons, and Team Liquid missing the PGL Copenhagen Major, the unease ofdev1ce stepping in as IGL of Astralis, how s1mple being loaned to Falcons from NAVI could have a lasting impact, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss the impact that superstar players (like NiKo and s1mple) can have on roster construction and team chemistry, s1mple's potential return to NAVI, the delicate balance between personal and task chemistry, the multitude of strengths of Team Spirit, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac are joined by Janko "YNk" Paunović to discuss the HooXi vs kassad beef, thoughts on Heroic and Astralis, the status of the zonic and Snappi-led Falcons lineup, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac discuss their picks for the top CS players in 2023, analyze the upcoming year for both G2 and Falcons, reflect on the past year, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss frozen's entrance into FaZe, ZywOo coming into form in CS2, the latest in the NiKo/G2/Falcons saga, gla1ve's ENCE roster, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss FaZe's dominance in CS2, the ways that rival teams can potentially defeat FaZe, the psychology of a winning squad, the Astralis and Heroic roster situation, and more.

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Thorin and Maniac discuss FaZe's victory at IEM Sydney, EliGE's strong performance with Complexity at the event, thoughts on the rumored Team Liquid roster with cadiaN and Twistzz, and more!

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Thorin and Maniac discuss MOUZ's victory at EPL and what it means for the team's future, potential issues at the upcoming CS2 event: IEM Sydney, big changes at Heroic, Vitality, and Cloud9, tales from HenryG's colossus" lineup, and more.

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