About the Guest:
https://www.cybercrimelaw.net/biography.html
The History of Cybercrime: 1976-2016 by Stein Schjolberg.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N7XVFY8/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_EmUnFb8VZZ79T
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We mentioned Donn Parker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donn_B._Parker
The Santayana reference is from the book "The Life of Reason" by George Santayana, which can be found at : https://www.gutenberg.org/files/15000/15000-h/15000-h.htm