Today's Day Two Cloud episode explores network automation through the lenses of infrastructure as code and CI/CD pipelines. As network automation permeates organizations, does it make sense for network engineers to adopt more developer-like processes, methods, and tools? Can you successfully automate without them? Our guests for this conversation, sponsored by Cisco, are Carl Moberg, Senior Director of Product Management at Cisco; and Kristian Larsson, who has dual roles at Cisco and Deutsche Telekom.