A friend and loyal patron Effie Ophelders of the podcast Stealing the Remote joins us on a deeper look into the DC film that's driving the comic book movie conversation at the moment, Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix's Joker. We get deeper into character motivation, mental illness, the political and economic implications of the film, what is and isn't real and of course because it's us, we also get pretty sidetracked from time-to-time.