Gödel's Theorem Says Intelligence ≠ Power? AI Doom Debate with Alexander Campbell

Alexander Campbell claims that having superhuman intelligence doesn’t necessarily translate into having vast power, and that Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem ensures AI can’t get too powerful. I strongly disagree.

Alex has a Master's of Philosophy in Economics from the University of Oxford and an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business, has worked as a quant trader at Lehman Brothers and Bridgewater Associates, and is the founder of Rose AI, a cloud data platform that leverages generative AI to help visualize data.

This debate was recorded in August 2023.

00:00 Intro and Alex’s Background

05:29 Alex's Views on AI and Technology

06:45 Alex’s Non-Doomer Position

11:20 Goal-to-Action Mapping

15:20 Outcome Pump Thought Experiment

21:07 Liron’s Doom Argument

29:10 The Dangers of Goal-to-Action Mappers

34:39 The China Argument and Existential Risks

45:18 Ideological Turing Test

48:38 Final Thoughts

Show Notes

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