Doth Protest

We offer out apologies for people who listen to us via Spotify, who would not have been able to listen to our last couple of episodes. We initially had an issue with new episodes/updates appearing on Spotify because of our recent podcast host change. We have resolved the issue. This is our recent episode where Andrew and James go further down the list of the "95 Theses" from Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. Details below.

James and Andrew continue down the list of the "95 Theses" from the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. 

SHOWNOTES:

Andrew made reference to the North American Anglican article "A Call to Arms to Restore the TEC: The Mission of the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal" and the Infographics video "Was Jesus Actually Resurrected?"

James made reference to the following:
The Jesus Storybook Bible

Mike Bird's book 7 Things I Wish Christians Knew About the Bible

William Mounce's book Why I Trust the Bible

Daniel Wallace's debate with Bart Ehrman (on YouTube)

We offer out apologies for people who listen to us via Spotify, who would not have been able to listen to our last couple of episodes. We initially had an issue with new episodes/updates appearing on Spotify because of our recent podcast host change. We have resolved the issue. This is our recent episode with Robert Kolb. Details below.

We were blessed to have world-renowned Luther scholar Robert Kolb today on Doth Protest. Dr. Kolb came on to discuss lesser-known figures in Wittenberg who were contemporaries of Luther. We discuss some of his friends and associates (and even some of his enemies), and also what daily life was like in 16th century Wittenberg. You're in for a fascinating discussion.

Dr. Kolb is Professor Emeritus of Systematic Theology at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri. He has authored many books both on Martin Luther and the Reformation. Here is a list of some of them. Read more about Dr. Kolb's life and work here.

James, Andrew, and their friend and fellow Episcopal priest Kyle Tomlin (from previous episodes: Remembering Jim Nestingen and We Need to be Rescued) each discuss the 1953 film Martin Luther and the 2003 film Luther, and which one they each liked better of the two. Andrew then gives an overview of every movie made on Martin Luther from 1911 to 2017 (!)

Shownotes:

*Birth of a Nation is indeed over 3 hours long (3 hours and 15 minutes to be exact).

*Luther's remarks on suicide that Andrew and Kyle refer to is from Table Talks entry 222 (April 7, 1532) found in vol. 54 of the American edition of Luther's Works . Read an excerpt of it here.

*Click here for a PDF of the biographical article in German about Walther Nithack-Stahn (the Berlin pastor who opposed World War I, and who wrote the screenplay of which the 1923 silent film Martin Luther was based upon)

*The book about Luther on film that Andrew recently came across is Martin Luther in Motion Pictures: History of a Metamorphosis by Esther P Wipfler

*The description of the 1911 film Doktor Martinus Luther that Andrew read was from a blog entry from the Bible Films Blog

*Here is a biographical article on Eugen Klöpfer, who played Luther in the 1928 movie, and gives more details on his involvement with Goebbels and the regime.

James and Andrew review the "95 Theses to the Episcopal Church", a set of statements put forth by a group called the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. They explain their essential agreement with all (or nearly all) the statements but why they could not sign.

Visit Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal and view these statements at episcopalrenewal.org

Author, speaker, and New Testament scholar Ian Paul joins the podcast today to break down where we get this concept of "blessings" from, and how blessings were understood in the Bible and in Jesus's ministry. Part of this episode entailed a discussion of Ian's recent blog post titled "What did Jesus do with bread?". Enjoy!

The Rev. Dr. Ian Paul is an Associate Minister at St. Nic's Nottingham, and is a member of General Synod- the legislative body of the Church of England. He holds a PhD in New Testament from St. John's College in Nottingham. He serves as the Managing Editor at Grove Books Ltd. and as the Chair of the Tyndale New Testament Study Group. He blogs over at his website Psephizo where you can also find a links for his books to purchase.

This is the second part of our conversation with Dr. Thomas E. Jacobson (the first part was published as the episode "The Nordic Reformation"). In this episode, Dr. Jacobson shares about his interest in the Norwegian Pietist leader Hans Nielsen Hauge (who became the focus of his doctoral dissertation) and how 'Haugean' movement later found its way into North American Lutheranism. Dr. Jacobson and Andrew also discuss Laestadian Lutherans- another spiritual awakening group out of Lutheranism that ended up in North America (and sort of resembles the Amish, but not entirely). Enjoy!

Shownotes:

-The quote Andrew shared at the beginning of our discussion on Hauge was from a lecture Dr. Jacobson gave on Hauge at Norwegian Lutheran Memorial Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota in April, 2019. Transcript here.

-The quote Andrew shared on the Laestadians was from a brief chapter Dr. Jacobson wrote titled "The Apostolic Lutheran Tradition" from the book Most Certainly True: 75 Stories about Lutherans Since 1517.

Dr. Thomas Jacobson, Assistant Professor of History at Institute of Lutheran Theology, comes on the podcast to discuss the Nordic Reformation, or how the Reformation transpired in Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland- both its influence from, and similarities and differences with, the Reformation in Germany and other countries. Host Andrew especially enjoyed his time as he learned a LOT about a fascinating history. This is the first of a two-part episode. Stay tuned for the upcoming episode with Dr. Jacobson "The Nordic Revivalists (and Their Influence in North America"

Dr. Jacobson mentions the following works that both influenced him and highlight the importance of the Nordic expression of Lutheranism:

Abdel Ross Wentz's A Basic History of Lutheranism in America

Conrad Bergendoff's book The Church of the Lutheran Reformation

James and Andrew had a great discussion on "The Sacred Supper of Christ, and What It Brings to Us" from Calvin's Institutes (Book IV, Chapter XVII)

The edition of the Institutes we read from is the two-volume Ford Lewis Battles translation from The Library of Christian Classics, Westminster John Knox Press.

The quotation at the beginning of the episode is from p. 199 of The European Reformations by Carl Lindberg, 3rd Edition.

The secondary source about the understanding of metonymy in Calvin is found at Derek Thomas's Blog 224 from Blogging the Institutes

The books that James recommended on the episode are Grace and Gratitude: The Eucharistic Theology by BA Gerrish and Analysis of the Institutes of the Christian Religion by Ford Lewis Battles.

The Rev. Ben Crosby, a priest in the Episcopal Church serving in the Anglican Church of Canada, comes on Doth Protest to discuss why clergy and laity need not be shallow but deeply engage the Scriptures and our theological heritage. (We were a bit salty at times... but all in love.) This conversation was inspired by Ben's recent blog post on his Substack Draw Near With Faith titled "What the Reformation Teaches Us About the Pastoral Nature of Doctrine" (so we get a bit into how Martin Luther can inform us on this topic).

The Rev. Ben Crosby is an Associate Priest at Christ Church Cathedral in Montreal and a PhD student at McGill University. He has written for Earth and Altar, The Living Church, and Journal of Anglican Studies.

Samuel Bray and Drew Keane are the co-editors of the recent "new" edition of the classic English Book of Common Prayer. In this episode, they join Andrew and James to talk about this project and Thomas Cranmer's approach to liturgy (it really turned into mainly a discussion on Cranmer... which is always wonderful.)

Samuel L. Pray is the John N. Matthews Professor of Law at University of Notre Dame Law School and a McDonald Distinguished Fellow at the Center for the Study of Law and Religion at Emory University. He is a prolific author in both legal studies and theology.

Drew Nathaniel Keane teaches English at Georgia Southern University and holds a PhD in English from University of St. Andrews. He is the co-host of the podcast Critical Readings which offers thoughtful analysis of essential literature. He serves on the Liturgical Commission and the Commission on Ministry for the Episcopal Diocese of Georgia. He has written for The Living Church, Anglican Theological Review, and more.

Cal Crucis joins Andrew today to discuss Cal's article "My Kingdom is Not of This World: A Critique of Cardinal Newman's Development of Doctrine" from The North American Anglican. We get into the Tractarian, Ritualist, and Anglo-Catholic movements that caused a tectonic shift in Anglicanism, and the role Newman played in this shift. Cal presents Newman on Newman's own terms and then gets into what some of the problems he sees in his theory.

Links to more work from Cal: Cal's blog

Cal's podcast

Cal's articles at North American Anglican

The quote from Mark Chapman that Andrew shared was from p. 89 of Anglicanism- A Very Short Introduction

Link to book: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/anglicanism-a-very-short-introduction-9780192806932?cc=us〈=en&

Prolific author and biblical scholar Michael F. Bird joins the podcast to discuss women in ministry, the Terminator movies, Bart Ehrman, and 90's-era John Barclay. This is the conversation theology nerds would dream of having, and Andrew and James (who are theology nerds, we must admit) were incredibly blessed to have such a conversation, one that was both humorous and earnest, with this esteemed scholar and theologian. (We even have somewhat of a bloopers reel toward the end.)

Dr. Bird is the Academic Dean of Ridley College in Melbourne and holds a PhD in New Testament from University of Queensland. He writes and speaks of a variety of topics (it was difficult to select which ones we wanted to bring to him for this episode). Below are links to access literature and media from him:

Dr. Bird's Substack The Word from Bird

Dr. Bird's YouTube channel Early Christian History

Dr. Bird's blog Euangelion

Dr. Bird's books he has authored and co-authored

Dr. Bird's debate with Dr. Bart Ehrman

The article Andrew mentions from Ian Paul on Phoebe and ancient-letter carriers can be accessed here

Zac Hicks joins James and Andrew today to discuss his latest book Worship by Faith Alone: Thomas Cranmer, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Reformation of Liturgy- a book that demonstrates that the Reformational teaching of ‘faith alone’ (or Sola Fide) was the driving force for Thomas Cranmer in his liturgical revision and in his composition of the Book of Common Prayer.

Zac Hicks holds a Doctor of Ministry from Knox Theological Seminary. He is a pastor, a songwriter, and music producer. Go to Zac’s website to listen to some of his music, as well as to find downloadable resources for music worship leaders.

Dr. Matthew Barrett joins Andrew and James on the podcast today to discuss his new book The Reformation as Renewal: Retrieving the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church that will be released in June, 2023. Go here to order or pre-order a copy.

In the episode, we do a deep dive into the historical setting of the Reformation, the intellectual and philosophical milieu of which people like Luther emerged, the Reformation's roots in both patristic and medieval theology, and common caricatures of the Reformation. Enjoy!

The four hosts return to conclude the lists of their favorite hymns (some even written in our lifetimes). Shownotes: -The episode artwork is of William Holman Hunt's painting "The Triumph of the Innocents" mentioned by Stephen in connection with James's hymn. (Taken from Wiki Commons)

-The quote about the text author of the hymn that Andrew mentioned was found in this article: https://flcpa.org/arthur/

A last-minute put together episode from Andrew on a woman who mothered a highly regarded doctor and theologian of Western Christianity. This was inspired by the date of the recording being the appointed feast day for her. Tune in to hear why Andrew has personally been impacted by these two Christians who lived long ago but whose stories are timeless.

Show notes:

The movie Andrew referred to is Augustine: Son of Her Tears

As Andrew recommended: Henry Chadwick's biography of Augustine of Hippo

The quote from the Confessions was from the Maria Boulding translation.

Dr. Jack Kilcrease joins us again on the podcast to discuss Sola Scriptura and how it was classically understood in the 16th-century Reformation which may differ from what is came to mean by some Protestants later. We also get into what some of the straw man arguments against Sola Scriptura are, what the term 'Tradition' means in theological discourse, and more! Stephen joins us for this episode as well and shares about a couple recent development in his life (one that may surprise you!)

In the episode we reference quite a few people and works, but we will point you to the one we discuss at length:

Jack Kilcrease's article "Is Sola Scriptura Obsolete? An Examination and Critique of Christian Smith's The Bible Made Impossible" from Concordia Theological Quarterly

Heiko Oberman's essay "Quo Vadis, Petre? Tradition from Irenaeus to Humani Generis" in the book Dawn of the Reformation: Essays in Late Medieval and Early Reformation Thought

The Rev. Jay Mills, retired Episcopal priest out of North Carolina, joins Andrew and James today to discuss a recent article he wrote titled "There and Back Again: Historical-Critical Skepticism and Renewed Faith" that was published in the Living Church.

In the article, Jay shared about his growing up in the Episcopal Church, coming of age in the late 1960’s and leaving the the church, his return to faith, his time in the early 1970’s Jesus Movement, his years as a theology student and seminarian where encountered the historical-critical method of teaching the Bible, how due to this he became skeptical of the historicity of events as described in the Bible (especially the Old Testament), and his eventual return to the belief of the Bible as authoritative and reliable.

Show notes:

The episode on the Jesus Seminar from Sarah Wilson Hinlicky and Paul Hinlicky's podcast that Andrew referred to can be accessed here.

James joins to Andrew in this episode to discuss his recent article for EFAC-USA's blog "39+" titled "If Anglicanism is Everything, It's Nothing". Read the article here.

We also discussed a recent article for Living Church from the Rev. David Beadle "Bibliolatry: the Exvangelical Boogeyman"

Shownotes:

When we discussed "literalism", Andrew referenced the following:

Dr. Iaian Provan's interview on the On Script podcast- episode On Reading the Bible Literally

and Dr. Garwood Anderson's article for Living Church on biblical literalism

The Rev. Bryan Jarrell recently wrote an article for Mockingbird about the Asbury Revival. We thank him for giving the time to be on Doth Protest Too Much to discuss what he wrote, as well as revivalism in general. Tune in for a great conversation.

Bryan is the pastor of Epiphany Anglican Fellowship in Ligonier, PA. Check his other pieces he has written for Mockingbird here.

The article that offers a breakdown of the 'Five Great American Revivals' can be accessed here.

The article from the Asbury student Anna Lowe about her experience at the revival can be accessed here.

The excerpt from Thomas Garrett Isham's biography of Charles McIlvaine that Andrew read the quote from can be found here.

Deaconess Ellie Corrow and Dr. Bethany Kilcrease join the podcast to discuss their review of Beth Allison Barr's popular book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Their review was published in 2021. 

Part 1 of their review can be read HERE.
Part 2 of their review can be read HERE.
Part 3 of their review can be read HERE. 

Deaconess Ellie Corrow serves as missionary care coordinator for the LCMS Office of International Mission. She also serves on the board of Higher Things- a Lutheran ministry to youth and young adults. Ellie writes, along with others including Dr. Kilcrease on their substack titled “Lutheran Women on the Road”, a blog and newsletter about "loving God and loving neighbor, and walking faithfully in this tension of Christian discipleship". 

Dr. Bethany Kilcrease is a professor of History at Aquinas College in Michigan. She holds a Ph.D. in modern British history from Boston University. She specializes in British and European modern intellectual and religious history. She is also the author of the recent book Falsehood and Fallacy: How to Think, Read, and Write in the Twenty-First Century

Additional show notes: Andrew made a reference to the book which argues for the commonly called 'egalitarian' position (men and women can share in ordained ministry) Bourgeois Babes, Bossy Wives, and Bobby Haircuts: A Case for Gender Equality in Ministry by Michael F. Bird.

We were excited to have Todd Brewer, New Testament scholar and Managing Editor of Mockingbird, join us for a great talk that covered a lot of important ground. So great that Andrew could not even come up with a name other than the various things we talked about! Enjoy!

Visit here to read more of Todd's work at Mockingbird. (We mention his MBird articles "Comforting the Comfortable", "How Revolutionary was Paul?", and "A View from the Ivory Tower", all accessible through that link.)

The quotation referenced by Andrew is found on p. 157 of Paul and the Power of Grace by John Barclay

Info on the controversy of the Catholic priest whose baptisms were ruled invalid

Dr. Suzanne Bray joins James and Andrew on this episode for an often unexplored but fascinating aspect of C.S. Lewis: his views on politics. Tune in for a great discussion! Dr. Bray is Professor of British Literature and Civilization at Lille Catholic University in the North of France. She has written extensively both in English and in French on C.S. Lewis and other modern Anglican authors. 

Check out some of her work at: https://univ-catholille.academia.edu/SuzanneBray 

Shownotes: 

*The articles by her that we reference in this episode are "C.S. Lewis and Politics" from An Anglo-American Literary Review and "C.S. Lewis as an Anglican" from the book Persona and Paradox: Issues of Identity for C.S. Lewis, his Friends and Associates. 

*Both articles are available to access at the site above. 

*The animated film adaptation of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP5uXoNf7Nc

*The title for this may give away one of the hymns we discuss.* Drew, Stephen, James, and Charlie get together to go further down (or up?) their list of favorite hymns. 

The article from Musical Times about the tune that Drew talked about can be found here: https://www.jstor.org/stable/904112

We recommend www.hymnary.org as a helpful resource and database in researching your own favorite hymns.

On Dec. 31st, 2022, the Rev. Dr. James Nestingen went to be with our Lord. Nestingen was a leading scholar and authority on Martin Luther in North America. However, he was much more a pastor before anything else. Many have been blessed to know him, to study under him, and to drink scotch with him- including our (returning) guest today: the Rev. Kyle Tomlin. Kyle was with us before for our episode on theology and comic books. Kyle was a student of Dr. Nestingen and shares some great memories about him on this episode.

In this episode we referenced the books:

Free to Be (which Nestingen co-authored with Gerhard Forde), https://www.augsburgfortress.org/store/product/5230/Free-to-Be-Student-Book

Martin Luther: A Life, https://www.amazon.com/Martin-Luther-Life-James-Nestingen/dp/0800697146

Martin Luther: His Life and Teachings, https://www.amazon.com/Martin-Luther-His-Life-Teachings/dp/1592446728

Also, to access the discussions and interviews of Nestingen from both Thinking Fellows podcast and Around the Table, as well as articles that Jim wrote, go to https://www.1517.org/contributors/jim-nestingen

The sermon on 'Faith vs. Piety': https://mbird.com/theology/jim-nestingen-on-faith-vs-piety/

The episode picture is taken from https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/name/james-nestingen-obituary?id=38527675

Zac Neubauer joins the podcast again with Andrew to go over books we read over 2022- not necessarily books that were published in 2022 but books that we read over the course of that year. Tune in to hear our recommendations and opinions, and feel free to disagree!

Rev. Zac Neubauer is the President of EFAC-USA (Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communion). This is his third time on the podcast (which means we owe him a t-shirt.) Zac serves as Interim Priest-in-Charge at St. Clement's Episcopal Church in Rancho Cordova, CA and is a graduate of Trinity School for Ministry in Ambridge, PA. Zac writes over at Confessing Anglicans. Find his work here: https://confessinganglicans.com/author/zneubauer/

"With any kind of history, there's a lot of empathy that has to be involved. You have to try to understand that there are objective issues but there's also the subjective: why people get caught up in this sort of thing, and any good history tries to deal with both."
This was a statement from our guest Erik Herrmann on this episode about the controversy that shook Concordia Seminary in St. Louis several decades ago that culminated in a walk-out of faculty and students. This is still a sensitive topic for faithful Lutheran Christians in the United States from different Lutheran denominations, and we pray for the day that Christ's Church may be united in confession, truth, and love. While we could not nearly get to every aspect of the Seminex story in this one episode, we do point you to the following resources (several which we discuss in the episode):

The video recordings of the entire course that Dr. Herrmann taught (along with his colleague Dr. Gerhard Bode) on Seminex "Controversy in the LCMS" can be accessed here: https://scholar.csl.edu/controversylcms/

The article that Andrew referenced by Robert Benne near the beginning of the episode:
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2011/05/the-trials-of-american-lutheranism

Frederick Danker's book No Room in the Brotherhood
*This book is from the perspective of a student involved in the walkout who later went on to be a New Testament scholar and professor in the ELCA.
Link to book: https://www.amazon.com/No-room-brotherhood-Preus-Otten-Missouri/dp/091564410X?scrlybrkr=c3bf1423

Paul Zimmermann's book A Seminary in Crisis: The Inside Story of the Preus Fact Finding Committee
*This was written by chair of the committee that went to Concordia Seminary to interview the faculty.
Link to book: https://www.amazon.com/Seminary-Crisis-Inside-Finding-Committee/dp/0758611021

James Burkee's book Power, Politics, and the Missouri-Synod: A Conflict That Changed American Christianity
*This book is discussed at length in the episode and focuses on the role Herman Otten played in the events leading up to Seminex
Link to book: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Politics-Missouri-Synod-Burkee/dp/1451465386/ref=sr_1_1?crid=AEDQQFTMPAYT&keywords=james+burkee+missouri+synod&qid=1668473964&s=books&sprefix=james+burkee+missouri+synod%2Cstripbooks%2C109&sr=1-1

A primary source: Exodus from Concordia: A Report on the 1974 Walkout
* The official report put out by the seminary in book form
Available digitized for free at: https://archive.org/details/ConcordiaSemBdOfControlWalkoutOf1974

James E. Adams' book Preus of Missouri and the Great Lutheran Civil War
*Biography of the president of the Missouri Synod at the time of Seminex and how he dealt with the issue
Available at: https://www.amazon.com/Preus-Missouri-great-Lutheran-civil/dp/0060600713

John Tietjen's book Memoirs in Exile: Confessional Hope and Institutional Conflict
*Book written by the president of Concordia Seminary at the time of Seminex
Available digitized for free at: https://archive.org/details/memoirsinexileco0000tiet

The early article from Martin Scharlemann on Scriptural inerrancy that Charlie referred to can be read here:
https://archive.org/details/ScharlemannMTheInerrancyOfScripture/page/n23/mode/2up

A related article on this topic written by the Concordia theology professor Arthur Carl Piepkorn (mentioned by Andrew) can be found here: https://scholar.csl.edu/ctm/vol36/iss1/48/

The title for the episode comes from our discussion on Charlie's hymn today. Andrew, James, and Charlie gather to go further down the list of their favorite hymns (or further up?). We did just two today as James and Andrew shared one. Stephen was unfortunately unable to join us but will be back with a double feature on the next part of this series.

Andrew made a reference to Jack Kilcrease's recent book Justification by the Word: Restoring Sola Fide in connection to Charlie's hymn. This book aims to restore the true Protestant sense of 'the faith' where we find our certainty rather than 'my faith'- the latter which has become so characteristic (and sometimes toxic) in later forms of Protestantism especially in pietism and North American revivalism/Great Awakening (and as James and Andrew get into, also takes form in mainline Protestantism and modern Catholicism).

We give special thanks to Aaron Shows for providing all the music for this episode.

Without trying to give spoilers, here are two links to versions/renditions of Andrew and James' hymn that they enjoy. (Give them a listen after you listen to the episode).

James' favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reGoqWBs30o

Andrew's favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVnvN3EVxY

"an antidote to all the self-help nonsense that weighs down our bookshelves and our self-regard" -These words from Nadia Bolz-Weber are about David Zahl's new book Low Anthropology: The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Others (and Yourself). 

David Zahl joins Andrew, Stephen, and James on this episode of Doth Protest Too Much for a great discussion about where our true hope lies: not in the illusion that people are "infinitely improvable", which Zahl argues only leads to despair, burnout, and the feeling of "not enoughness", but in an acknowledgement of a low anthropology (which we define and discuss at length on the podcast). We also have fun discussion about David’s favorite member from a certain band, his favorite Funko Pop figure that he owns, and more... *Andrew apologizes for his mic. He tried out a new set of headphones for this episode and apparently the mic isn't that great.* 

David Zahl is the founder and editor of Mockingbird Ministries, and the editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird website. He is based in Charlotesville, NC and has served since 2010 as the College and Adult Education Minister and Lay Preacher at Christ Episcopal Church in Charlottesville, NC. He is the author of numerous books including A Mess of Help: The Crucified Soul of Rock ‘n’ Roll, Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technology, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion (And What to do about it),  Law and Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints), and his latest book which we will be discussing today Low Anthopology: The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Others published this year through Brazos Press. 

Shownotes: 

*the word 'kiss' when referring to the band KISS, does not stand for Kids in Satan's Service, neither does it stand (as Andrew joked) for Keep it Simple and Stupid (although that is an acronym Andrew remembers from his military days). 

Dave's podcast on music 'Well of Sound' that he co-hosts can be found here.

Notable Luther scholar and theologian Dr. Mark Mattes joins DPTM hosts Stephen Burnett and Rev. James Rickenbaker in this episode to discuss the importance of God's forgiveness and righteousness given to us by His efficacious Word. Dr. Mattes is Professor of Philosophy and Theology at Grand View College in Des Moines, Iowa, and has served congregations as a pastor in Illinois and Wisconsin. He has authored many books and journal articles on Martin Luther and Lutheranism. Some of the titles of these works include Martin Luther’s Theology of Beauty: A Reappraisal and Law & Gospel in Action: Foundations, Ethics, and Church. In this episode, we discuss Luther, Law & Gospel, the contemporary Luther scholarship of Gerhard Forde and Oswald Bayer, as well as spending time to get to know Dr. Mattes and what led to his interests.

Shownotes:

Mark’s article “Preaching to C and E Christians” from 1517 can be read here:

https://www.1517.org/articles/preaching-to-c-e-christians

The works referred to in this episode are:

C.F.W Walther’s The Proper Distinction Between Law and Gospel
-public domain available at https://lutherantheology.com/uploads/works/walther/LG/

Martin Luther's commentary/exposition on the Magnificat
-found in Luther's Works, Volume 21
https://www.cph.org/p-627-Luthers-Works-Volume-21-Sermon-on-the-Mount-and-the-Magnificat.aspx

Martin Luther's Treatise on Good Works
-the Annotated Study Edition of this is available at https://www.amazon.com/Treatise-Good-Works-1520-Annotated/dp/1506413536?scrlybrkr=c3bf1423

Gerhard Forde's On Being a Theologian of the Cross
-https://www.amazon.com/Being-Theologian-Cross-Reflections-Disputation/dp/080284345X

Roland Bainton’s biography of Luther, Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther
-https://www.christianbook.com/here-stand-life-of-martin-luther/roland-bainton/9780452011465/pd/011469

Rev. Kyle Tomlin joins the podcast to discuss his longtime interests in comic books and superheroes. We discuss Spiderman, Green Lantern, Deadpool, Batman, Superman, the Watchmen, the Boys, and more. Andrew is a bit less seasoned in the comic book universe, so James and Kyle really carried the conversation today. But importantly, we explore what messaging may people be internalizing from comics and superheroes as well as wider pop culture, and ponder what the Gospel of grace in Christ can offer to a culture that is, as Kyle believes, hungry to be rescued.

Kyle hosts a podcast called "God and Comics" along with Rev's Matt Stromberg and Jonathan Mitchican. He is the rector of Church of the Messiah, Episcopal in Fredericksburg, VA. He is an Anglican with a Christ-centered, Reformationally-rooted theology.

Check out God and Comics at www.godandcomics.com and their podcast at anchor.fm/godandcomics

River Devereux joins Andrew on this episode of 'Doth Protest' for a helpful conversation about the Reformational understanding of Scripture's authority in relation to Creeds and Councils. River's recent work in the North American Anglican has generated great conversation and some controversy surrounding this topic. River's argument is: "our entire theological system necessitates the validity of private judgement" (from his article "To Follow One's Conscience: A Defense of True Protestantism"), and that church councils cannot claim to bind our conscience. This does not equate to, River says, a type of anarchic individualism nor does it, importantly, subject Scripture to our own reason (as we see in the case of the Enlightenment). 

Here are links to the River's articles that we mentioned:

"To Follow One's Conscience: A Defense of True Protestantism"

"To Reject a Council: An Essay on Scripture, the Church, and the Believer"

"Reformation Anglicanism and Nicaea II"

This is a link to River's YouTube channel New Kingdom Media: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9i77qgn4y1yTat-LgjLMg

Additional show notes from Andrew (Disclaimer: the authors of these may or may not be in agreement with every point we made in the episode):

"The Authority of Scripture" by Jack Kilcrease

Heiko A. Oberman's book Dawn of the Reformation

What is heresy? Can it be understood sympathetically without condoning it? James and Stephen of 'Doth Protest' had a great discussion with Justin Holcomb on this topic. You are in for a fascinating and uplifting discussion. Justin is an Episcopal priest and has served as the Canon for Vocations in the Diocese of Central Florida since 2013. He teaches theology and apologetics at Reformed Theological Seminary and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. You can visit Justin's website at justinholcomb.com

SHOWNOTES: Justin’s article “Why You Shouldn’t Call that False Teaching a Heresy?” Justin’s new devotional: God with Us: 365 Devotions on the Person and Work of Christ Justin and Lindsey Holcomb’s new children’s’ book: God Made Babies We also referenced Michael Horton's book Christless Christianity: The Alternative Gospel of the American Church

We go further down the list of our favorite hymns in this second of a five part series on sacred music.

We give a huge thanks and shout out to Aaron Shows, James's brother-in-law, who played segments of all of the hymns we discuss on organ or piano. Please do not kill Andrew for mispronouncing your name today! We featured Aaron's music on the episode as we introduced each one. Aaron is a film-composer and also serves as the organist for First United Methodist Church of Pasadena, CA. Listen in to hear what hymns we picked (we give the writing credits on the episode audio).

Without giving too many spoilers, here are some show notes:

James referred to the book Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund when he was discussing the theology of his hymn.

Charlie mentioned to hymn 604 out of Lutheran Service Book as a superior version of a hymn (that isn't on any of our lists but it disliked by two of our hosts). He also mentioned hymn 539 out of the same hymnal as his favorite tune setting to his hymn that he discusses.

Here is a link to the German hymn writer Andrew referred to who lived during the 30 Years War.

Charlie mentioned the hymn scholar Jon Vieker out of Concordia Seminary who has written about Catherine Winkworth (who we mentioned on the show). Andrew was unable to find anything exclusively on Catherine Winkworth from him. However, his faculty bio page is here
*We also recommend you search him on https://scholar.csl.edu/

"For a scholarly generation, students of Paul have confidently treated the sixteenth-century Reformers as Paul's 'misinterpreters-in-chief.' Now Stephen Chester's patient and learned treatment of the Reformers' Pauline exegesis exposes both their thoughtfulness and their potential as wise conversation partners in the present. This is a major contribution to Pauline study." 

These were New Testament scholar Beverly Gaventa's words of praise for Stephen J. Chester's book Reading Paul with the Reformers: Reconciling Old and New Perspectives. James and Andrew were honored to have Stephen Chester on the podcast in this episode to discuss his work and share valuable insights in how we can appreciate interpreters who have gone before us. Tune in for a great discussion. 

Zac Neubauer, President of Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communion-USA, joins the podcast again, this time with Andrew and James to talk about some of the leading Evangelicals from Anglicanism's recent past including Charles Simeon, Charles McIlvaine, and John Stott. We also catch up about EFAC-USA in recent years.  Zac has been president of EFAC-USA since 2018. He earned his M. Div from Trinity School for Ministry in 2017 and serves as Priest-in-Charge at St. Clement's Episcopal Church in Rancho Cordova, CA.  Shownotes *Zac mentioned the following resources in this episode that are good further reading for history of Evangelicalism in the Episcopal Church and Anglican Communion: (Book) Standing in the Whirlwind: Evangelical Episcopalians in Nineteenth-Century America by Diana Butler Bass (Essay) "The Strange Death of Evangelical Episcopalianism" by Gillis Harp in Anglican and Episcopal History, Vol. 74, No. 2 p. 180-206 *Andrew mentioned the book Christ in Conflict by John Stott.

Additionally, we recommend the following books about Charles Simeon: Charles Simeon by HCG Moule (Methuen, 1892- now published by Christian Focus Publications) Charles Simeon of Cambridge by Hugh Evan Hopkins (Hodder, 1977- now published by Wipf & Stock, USA)

What does it mean for a Christian to live under both God and an earthly ruler? What are Christians supposed to do in everyday life situations that the Bible doesn't speak to or prescribe something directly for? These are just some of the questions that we explored in our latest episode.

Dr. Littlejohn joins Stephen and Andrew on the podcast today to discuss his book The Two Kingdoms: A Guide for the Perplexed as well as his work as President of the Davenant Institute which seeks to "retrieve the riches of classical Protestantism to renew and build up the contemporary Church."
Dr. Littlejohn holds a PhD from New College, University of Edinburgh. His areas of expertise include the Anglican theologian Richard Hooker, the Reformation (both English and continental), Reformed theology and history, and political and ethical thought of the Reformation. 

Shownotes: 

Link to Dr. Littlejohn's book

The book that Dr. Littlejohn mentioned toward the end is Creation Regained: Biblical Basics for a Reformational Worldview by Albert M. Wolters

Stephen, Charlie, James, and Andrew go through their favorite hymns in this first of a five part series on sacred music. 

We give a huge thanks and shout out to Aaron Shows, James's brother-in-law, who played segments of all of the hymns we discuss on organ or piano. We featured these segments on the episode as we introduced each one. Aaron is a film-composer and also serves as the organist for First United Methodist Church of Pasadena, CA. Listen in to hear what hymns we picked (we give the writing credits on the episode audio).

Shownotes:

A link to the devotional book by Caroline Maria Noel:
A link to the book by Gustaf Aulen that James mentioned:

A link to the documentary on Ralph Vaughan Williams mentioned by Andrew

Rev. Andrew's friend Jacob Bouma-Sims joins the podcast to discuss the most recent EFAC-USA (Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communion-USA) conference that he attended. He also shares his personal story and how God brought him out of atheism. He also talks about his own true-crime and history fusion podcast titled "Mead and Murder". 

Some of the conference speakers Jacob talked about were Zac Hicks, Glen Scrivener, and President of EFAC- Zac Neubauer.

Check out Zac Hicks' website here.

This is a link to Glen Scrivener's blog and website.

Visit EFAC-USA's website here.

(The book referred to by Rev. Andrew is Faith Alone: The Doctrine of Justification- What the Reformers Thought and Why It Still Matters by Thomas Schreiner)

Follow Jacob's podcast "Mead and Murder" on Facebook

On YouTube

On Apple Podcasts

What an honor it was to have the esteemed historian of the Episcopal Church Robert Prichard join Drew and James for the podcast today.

Dr. Prichard is a Professor Emeritus of Virginia Theological Seminary (a seminary in the Episcopal Church) where served as the Arthur Lee Kinsolving Professor of Christianity in America and Instructor in Liturgy, and was on full-time faculty from 1983 to 2019. He is an authority on Episcopal Church history and has written numerous books, publications, and articles, including the widely-read A History of the Episcopal Church
Dr. Prichard is joining us today to touch on a few different interesting aspects of Episcopal history, about controversy and consensus within the church during the 19th century, as well as some American Prayer Book history, and recent General Conventions.

God Bless!

This is a link to read a work we reference throughout the podcast, his book The Nature of Salvation: Theological Consensus in the Episcopal Church (1801-1873)

Dr. Daniel Pedersen is back on the podcast to discuss his recent work on divine simplicity, divine freedom, and the "modal collapse" argument. He recently co-authored an article on this subject with Christopher Lilley out of Marquette University titled "Divine Simplicity, God's Freedom, and the Supposed Problem of Modal Collapse" for the Journal of Reformed Theology.
This is an open-access link to read it: https://brill.com/view/journals/jrt/16/1-2/article-p127_8.xml?ebody=abstract%2Fexcerpt

Daniel Pedersen is a research fellow at University of Aberdeen's department of Divinity. He holds a PhD from Princeton Seminary. Pedersen discusses content from this article on this episode as well as the work of the Aberdeen Centre for Protestant Theology which he is affiliated with. He also discusses some upcoming work on the relation of theology and the natural sciences.

The Aberdeen Centre for Protestant Theology's website can be accessed here.

Here are links to past work from both Daniel Pedersen and Christopher Lilley respectively.

Daniel makes reference to the book Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God by John Calvin

Charlie was a bit "hipster" with the last theologian here, who is obscure for most people (unless you went to Concordia-Seward), but all four of the theologians discussed for this fourth and final installment of our Theologians Series have interesting stories, strong personalities, and thoughtful theologies. James discussed Gerhard Forde, Andrew discussed Karl Barth, and Charlie discussed Kurt Marquart and David P. Meyer. 

Shownotes:

-The book from Marquart mentioned by Charlie is Anatomy of an explosion: A theological analysis of the Missouri Synod conflict A digitized copy of it can be read at archive.org

-Many of Marquart's articles and talks can be accessed here.

The books from Gerhard Forde discussed were: 

On Being a Theologian of the Cross
The Captivation of the Will: Luther vs. Erasmus on Freedom and Bondage
Where God Meets Man: Luther's Down-to-Earth-Approach to the Gospel

The article that Charlie mentioned is “Law and Gospel as the Methodological Principle of Theology,” A Discussion of Contemporary Issues in Theology by Members of the Religion Department at Luther College. (Decorah, Iowa; Luther College Press, 1964)

Works by or about Barth mentioned:
The Epistle to the Romans
George Hunsinger's book How to Read Karl Barth
R.R. Reno's article on Barth that Andrew referred to.
The episode "Barth Ain't So Bad" that Paul Hinlicky and Sarah Hinlicky Wilson did for their podcast Queen of the Sciences

Dr. Ariel Hessayon joins Andrew, Charlie, and James today to talk about the books that are often considered 'Apocrypha' in the Protestant tradition. We discuss: 

-The difference between the Septuagint and the Hebrew Bible
-The speculation on the closing of the Jewish canon by the time of Jesus
-The early church father Jerome's approach to canonicity
-The very different ways the term 'Apocryphal' has been used or applied
-The Reformers' and Council of Trent's approaches toward these books
-We also touch on a few of Dr. Hessayon's other interests in the beginning (including "monstrous births" and crypto-Judaism).
Dr. Hessayon is a scholar of early modern history. He has taught courses on European philosophy, the occult, heresy, apocalypticism, and the English Revolution. He is a Senior Lecturer at Goldsmiths, University of London. He holds a PhD from Selwyn College, Cambridge University. He has a blog at: arielhessayon.substack.com
The books that Dr. Hessayon mentioned at the end of the episode (as some of his favorite and most influential books on him) are:
*Keith Thomas Religion in the Time of Magic: Studies in Popular Beliefs in Sixteenth and Seventeenth Century England
*Gerschom Scholem's Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism
*Carlo Ginzberg's The Cheese and the Worms
Dr. Hessayon's article that we made reference to is "The Apocrypha in Early Modern England" from the book Kevin Killeen; Helen Smith and Rachel Willie, eds. The Oxford Handbook of the Bible in Early Modern England, c. 1530–1700. Oxford: Oxford UP, pp. 131-148. ISBN 9780199686971 The article can be read here.

"When you make blanket statements, you end up being smothered by that blanket." What an insightful quote from our very own: Rev. James Rickenbaker.
Today, two Episcopal Priests and a Lutheran pastor break down the problems they find with a meme that seems to get shared virally every time Easter comes around. A meme (pictured in the episode artwork and in our show description) that makes, what we ultimately believe, are false dichotomies. Joining Rev's Andrew and James on this episode of Doth Protest is our friend Rev. Connor Longaphie from Transcendent Truth Media- a multi-media network of Confessional Lutheran pastors and theologians. Enjoy!
Shownotes: The book review of Reza Aslan's book Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth that Andrew referred to can be found here
The book The Theology of the Pain of God: The First Original Theology of Pain by Kazoh Kitamori that Rev. Connor referred to
The article from Clayton Croy referenced is "The Messianic Whippersnapper: Did Jesus Use a Whip on People in the Temple (John 2:15)?" from Journal of Biblical Literature 128 (3) p. 555-568

Rev. Andrew also made a reference to the book Was Jesus a Revolutionist? by Martin Hengel

That's right! Four fifths (about) of the Bible is the Old Testament. Joining Andrew and James on the podcast for this episode is Tremper Longman. Dr. Longman has spent his life (since his conversion as a young man) studying the Old Testament and has become an authority on it. An author of many books and articles, including widely-used textbooks on Old Testament studies used in colleges and seminaries, Tremper offers us a way to appreciate the Old Testament as anticipating Christ and as a way to appreciate the Old Testament as it was written to its original audience. Why the latter? Well even before the God-took-flesh, the Scriptures, as the Old Testament on its own terms and in its original setting, fully sufficed to their audience. Tune in for a great discussion on the importance of the Old Testament, its theological relevance for Christians, and (dare we say) its historical reliability.
The books by Tremper referenced at length in this episode:
Confronting Old Testament Controversies: Pressing Questions about Evolution, Sexuality, History and Violence (Baker Books, 2019)
A Biblical History of Israel (along with Iain Provan & V. Philips Long. Westminster John Knox Press, 2015)
The upcoming book that Tremper is one of the contributors to, Five Views of Christ in the Old Testament: Genre, Authorial Intent, and the Nature of Scripture, that comes out in the Fall can be found here.

**SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT if you haven't read The Last Battle from the Narnia series. (But to be fair, it's been 60 years).

Rev's Andrew, Charlie, and James go further down the favorite theologians list in the third part of our theologians series. Andrew talks about Paul Althaus, Charlie talks about Johann Gerhard, and James talks about C.S. Lewis. You are in for (another) treat. 

Shownotes:
Althaus

The work by Ryan Tafilowski that was referenced is "Exploring the Legacy of Paul Althaus" from Lutheran Quarterly.

The book Charlie referenced by Paul Althaus that he read in college (and which we highly recommend) is The Ethics of Martin Luther

The book that Andrew discussed on the correspondences between Althaus and Rudolf Bultmann can be found here.

Johann Gerhard:

English-translated works of Johann Gerhard can be found here.

The quote from Melanchthon that James referenced is from the book Wilhelm Pauck, ed. Melanchthon and Bucer

C.S. Lewis:

Where to start? He is an immensely popular author to this day and most of his writings are classics. We referenced Screwtape Letters, his Space Trilogy, Mere Christianity, the Narnia series, and more! (The quote on friendship that Andrew read was from The Four Loves. Location 806 in the e-book edition)

We really wanted to name the episode something like "A God Full of Sin". But you can listen to what one of these four profound theologians says on that. Friends Rev's. Charlie Lehmann and James Rickenbaker join this episode to discuss more of their favorite theologians. Charlie talks about James Voelz and Norman Nagel (both of whom he also had as teachers!). James talks about Michael Horton. Andrew talks about Athanasius. We had an absolutely amazing talk. You are in for a treat.

Shownotes:

The textbook that Charlie mentions from James Voelz is What Does This Mean?
James's recommended these books by Michael Horton:
Christless Christianity: The Alternative Gospel of the American Church
Putting Amazing Back into Grace: Embracing the Heart of the Gospel
The Gospel-Driven Life: Being Good News People in a Bad News World
The book by John Behr which mentions God's three-fold purpose for taking on the flesh (according to Athanasius) is The Nicene Faith (Formation of Christian Theology)

The Mockingbird article that Andrew referred to.

A web version of Athanasius's discourses against the Arians.

Rev. James Rickenbaker joins Rev. Andrew for the first time today on Doth Protest. This is the first of a multi-part series of episodes we will have between James, Andrew, and Charles (who will join on the next part) going through our favorite theologians. By the end of the series, each will have gone through five. Not only are they near and dear to our hearts, but we recommend them to you as we believe their life stories, insights, and contributions served God and his church in ways that can still inform and guide us today. On this episode, James and Andrew each talk about Martin Luther. James then talks about Bishop Bo Giertz (pictured in the episode artwork), and Andrew talks about St. Augustine of Hippo.  

Shownotes:
Luther
*Luther’s early Psalms commentary that James refers to is from volumes 10 & 11 of Luther's Works (Fortress Press; Concordia)  *Correction: Ernst Bizer's position on Luther's 'Reformation turning point' was after the theses  *The biographies of Luther that James recommended are James Kittelson's Luther the Reformer: The Story of the Man and his Career and Roland Bainton's Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther. 

*The primary writings that James recommended from Luther are The Bondage of the Will translated by J.R. Packer & O.R. Johnston and the compendium Martin Luther's Basic Theological Writings edited by Timothy F. Lull & William R. Russell 

*The "bonus book" that James recommended for Episcopalians on the Reformation was Reformation Essays of Robert Barnes

*Andrew recommended A Fortress Introduction to the Lutheran Confession by Gunther Gassman and Scott Hendrix, Martin Luther's Theology: A Contemporary Interpretation by Oswald Bayer, and Luther in Mid-Career by Heinrich Bornkamm (there is a link to read this Bornkamm book in the episode details for the Doth Protest episode "The Fall Theological Reading List") 

Giertz 

*The books by Bo Giertz James and Andrew referred to are:

The Hammer of God

Christ's Church: Her Biblical Roots, Her Dramatic History, Her Saving Presence, Her Glorious Future (the quote was from p. 105)

*James recommended going to www.1517.org to check out some of recent English translations of Giertz' work by Bror Erickson. 

The books about Augustine that Andrew referenced were: 

RW Dyson's Augustine of Hippo: The Christian Transformation of Political Philosophy
Henry Chadwick's Augustine of Hippo: A Life

*The translations of Augustine's The Confessions that James referred to are the Henry Chadwick translation and the Maria Boulding translation.

Dr. Daniel Pedersen joins us for a discussion on the 19th century German Reformed theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher. Schleiermacher is often called the 'Father of Modern Theology' or the 'Father of Liberal Theology'. Daniel explains what that term means and how he believes that term can mislead. Daniel takes a position that Schleiermacher is often misread and misinterpreted, and he sees Schleiermacher as more in line with the Great Tradition (and an important interlocutor in the Reformed Tradition). Daniel and Andrew also discuss some of the basic ideas of Schleiermacher as laid forth in his chief theological works On Religion: Speeches to Its Cultured Despisers and The Christian Faith.

Daniel is a Research Fellow at the the University of Aberdeen. His interests run the gamut of modern theology and Protestant theology, from the Reformers to the 19th century and beyond. He earned his Ph.D. at Princeton where he studied under Bruce McCormack. He is the author of several books and articles on Friedrich Schleiermacher.
Daniel's latest book Schleiermacher's Theology of Sin and Nature: Agency, Value, and Modern Theology is available here.
Daniel's article that we discussed on the Divine Attributes that argues for a strong continuity from the Reformed scholastics to Schleiermacher is "Schleiermacher and the Reformed Scholastics" from The International Journal of Systematic Theology 17: 413-431

Daniel's post "How to Understand Schleiermacher's Theology- A guest post by Daniel Pedersen"
(He advances his thesis further in an upcoming article for International Journal of Systematic Theology titled "‘A tragic destiny overtook him': Misunderstanding the Introduction to Schleiermacher’s The Christian Faith and his Letters to Lücke’")
Andrew discussed Gerhard Ebeling's comparison of Luther and Schleiermacher from Internationaler Schleiermacher Kongreß Berlin 1984. Link to electronic copy of the book.

The Terrence Tice book discussed in the episode is Schleiermacher: Abingdon Pillars of Theology Series.

*For further reading from Daniel's colleague and Schleiermacher authority Paul Nimmo, we recommend his article "Schleiermacher on Scripture and the Work of Jesus Christ" in Modern Theology

Merry Christmas! In this episode, Stephen and Rev. Andrew each share three podcasts that they have been recently enjoying and would recommend to Doth Protest Too Much fans. These other podcasts range from topics of the paranormal to stand-up comedy to relational/emotional wellness to cancel culture to church leadership-gone-wrong to modern theology. Also, we conclude our discussion on Billy Graham that we started in a previous episode titled "A Prayer Complete". Rev. Andrew shares a little bit about the Billy Graham book Angels: God's Secret Agents. Stephen and Rev. Andrew also each share about their experience visiting the Billy Graham Library.
**Correction: We don't want to spoil the other podcasts we talk about in the show notes, but it is Delony, (not Mulaney- who is also a real guy)..

Dr. Thomas Power joins the podcast to discuss his longtime interests and work in apocalyptic thought in church history- especially in regard to the Church of Ireland in the 19th century. Tune in to learn about how multiple societal and political factors led to an apocalyptic fervor and revival of millennialist thought in the church- in ways that we still see today.
Dr. Power is Professor Emeritus of Church History at Wycliffe College. He received his Ph.D. from Trinity College in Dublin. His areas of expertise include Christian history in Britain and Ireland particularly in the history of millennialism. He has authored and edited several books and publications including the forthcoming 1825: Apocalypse in Ireland (working title) and the 2019 book Trauma and Survival In The Contemporary Church: Historical Responses in The Anglican Tradition that he contributed to and edited which we discuss content from in this episode.

Check more of Dr. Power's publications out on this link: https://www.wycliffecollege.ca/users/thomas-power
This is a link to the commentary Revelation and the End of All Things by Craig Koester that Dr. Power mentioned and enjoyed:
https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7578/revelation-and-the-end-of-all-things-2nd-ed.aspx

(Your host enjoys using the umlaut function for this episode!) Who is Eberhard Jüngel? Dr. Dave Nelson joins the podcast to discuss a significant and interesting 20th-century German theologian who is sometimes overlooked in the 'Anglosphere'. Tune in to this episode learn more about Jüngel, his commentary on secularization, his relationship to the theologies of Karl Barth and Rudolf Bultmann, and the 'New Hermeneutic' (or New Quest for the Historical Jesus), as well as Jüngel's ecumenical work and revolt against (and later endorsement of!) JDDJ (the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification between the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation). This was fascinating stuff! 

Dr. David Nelson received his Ph.D. from Aberdeen University where he studied under John Webster. Dr. Nelson is the Senior Acquisitions Editor for Baker Academic and Brazos Press, and editor for Lutheran Forum, USA. As of 2022, Dr. Nelson is the Director of Baylor University Press. He has authored, edited, and contributed to several books including Jüngel: A Guide to the Perplexed and The Interruptive Word: Eberhard Jüngel on the Sacramental Structure of God's Relation to the World. Dr. Nelson also taught courses at the Institute of Lutheran Theology, where your host Rev. Andrew studies at. 

This is a replay of our very first episode. Join Rev. Andrew and Dr. Jack Kilcrease for a discussion on Thomas Aquinas' influence on Protestantism, in particular the era of theology known as "Protestant scholasticism" or "Protestant orthodoxy". Dr. Kilcrease clarifies some misconceptions about Protestant scholasticism and also offers a way that we can appreciate the theologians of that era.
Dr. Kilcrease is a Lutheran lay theologian and currently a member of Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod’s Commission on Theology and Church Relations. He earned his PhD in Systematic Theology and Ethics from Marquette University in 2009. He is the author of several books and many articles. He is an Associate Professor of Historical and Systematic Theology at the Institute of Lutheran Theology- an independent seminary and graduate school where yours truly studies at. If you are interested in reading further work from Dr. Kilcrease, I encourage you to check out his website www.jackkilcrease.com where you can find links to past articles, radio shows and podcasts he has appeared on there as well as read from his blog.

Dr. Jack Kilcrease joins us again on Doth Protest Too Much! What a fascinating conversation we had on the theological (and Christological) differences between Reformers Martin Luther and Ulrich Zwingli, especially in regard to the Holy Eucharist. Jack also weighs in on what he liked about the Netflix series Midnight Mass.

Dr. Kilcrease is a Lutheran lay theologian and currently a member of Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod’s Commission on Theology and Church Relations. He earned his PhD in Systematic Theology and Ethics from Marquette University in 2009. He is the author of several books and many articles. He is an Associate Professor of Historical and Systematic Theology at the Institute of Lutheran Theology- an independent seminary and graduate school where yours truly studies at. If you are interested in reading further work from Dr. Kilcrease, I encourage you to check out his website www.jackkilcrease.com 
 You can find links to past articles, radio shows and podcasts he has appeared on there as well as read from his blog.

*The interview on 'Spirit Christology' that was referred to in this episode with Dr. Leopoldo Sánchez can be listened to here: https://onscript.study/podcast/leopoldo-sanchez-sculptor-spirit/

*Also: John Mason Neale is the Oxford Movement hymn writer that Rev. Andrew could not think of in the moment who was drawn toward Eastern Orthodoxy

Fr. Isaac Rehberg from the podcast Miserable Offenders, a podcast on theology and culture from an Anglican perspective, joins us again on Doth Protest Too Much! This time, we had a fun discussion on recent books that we had read (not books that necessarily came out recently, but that we read recently). I won't put all the books in the show notes as I don't want to spoil them (I did refer to quote from the first book I shared on page 17).
Also the quote from Michael Ramsey is from the book The Anglican Spirit edited by Dale Coleman and published by Church Publishing Inc. (It is not one of the books on our lists).
Isaac is the the Archdeacon for liturgy in the Anglican Diocese of the West (Church of Nigeria North American Mission), and the Rector of All Saints Anglican Church in San Antonio, Texas. 
Here is a link to the  recent review Isaac wrote about one of the books he discussed:
https://northamanglican.com/not-just-for-lutherans-a-review-of-jordan-coopers-union-with-christ/

The episode from Just and Sinner podcast that Andrew referred to can be listened to here:
https://youtu.be/6MbT-Eca6SU

“There is a well-defined and generally recognized Wisconsin type of churchmanship.”- said Fr. Fayette Durlin.  This episode explores that history as well as the history of the Oxford Movement, its underlying theology, and more. A few years back, Rev. Andrew spent a lot of time researching this and is presenting it on the episode of this podcast.
 
 Shownotes:
CORRECTION: our previous guest who presides over EFAC is Rev. Zac Neubauer, not Rev. Sean Duncan (who also has been on the show to discuss Richard Hooker)
 *Rowan Williams' quote on the "three corners" of Anglicanism is from his preface to Love's Redeeming Work: The Anglican Quest for Holiness. Oxford University Press, 2001.  
 On the history and belief of the Oxford Movement, we referred to the following books:
 *Mark Chapman, Anglicanism (A Very Short Introduction). Oxford University Press, 2006
 *Owen Chadwick, The Mind of the Oxford Movement. Stanford University Press, 1960.
*The appraisal and critique of the Oxford movement quoted from Rev. Andrew is from Vernon Faithfull Storr, The Development of English Theology in the Nineteenth Century. Longman, Green, & Co., 1913.
Other critiques referenced:
*Peter Benedict Nockles, The Oxford Movement in Context: Anglican High Churchmanship 1760-1857. Cambridge University Press, 1994.
*Peter Toon, Evangelical Theology1833-1856: A Response to Tractarianism. John Knox Press, 1979.
**For further reading of Richard Hooker's Doctrine of Justification:
https://churchsociety.org/docs/churchman/114/Cman_114_4_Foord.pdf
*Some of the information on the earlier Wisconsin history in this episode was taken from the book: Harold E. Wagner, The Episcopal Church in Wisconsin: 1847-1947. Courier Printing Company, 1947.
*A brief biography of Bishop Jackson Kemper: http://www.satucket.com/lectionary/Jackson_Kemper.htm
*A brief biography of Rev. Richard F. Cadle
http://anglicanhistory.org/usa/greene_cadle.pdf
*For full text of the Episcopal Church's Repudiation of the Doctrine of Discovery:
https://www.episcopalchurch.org/indigenousministries/repudiation-of-the-doctrine-of-discovery/
*The quote from historians David Hein and Gardiner Shattuck Jr. about Jackson Kemper's influence on Wisconsin Episcopal churchmanship is from the book: David Hein and Gardiner Shattuck, Jr. The Episcopalians. (Church Publishing Inc., 2004)
*The above quote from Fayette Durlin is from his Sermon on 50th Anniversary of the Diocese of Milwaukee. Milwaukee County Historical Society, MSS-0331, Box 44.
*The sermon from Rev. Azel Cole about problems facing the church:  “A Message to the Students at Nashotah”. Milwaukee County Historical Society, MSS-0331, Box 44. Retrieved Nov. 23, 2016
*Info about Cole's ghost: Martinez, Steven. “Haunted History at the Nashotah House seminary still spooky after 150 years.” Lake Country NOW. October 21, 2015. (article online)
*The fictional book about Kemper's ghost and Madison Church: Robert E. Gard, The Deacon: Story of the Ghost of Grace Church
*The quote from Bishop Donald Hallock on race: “Racial Group Gets Support”, BOX 6A in Milwaukee County Archives, author, date, and publication unknown- presumably Milwaukee Journal
 *Joint-Statement from church leaders opposed to women's ordination:  “An Evangelical and Catholic Covenant”, Accessed Nov. 23, 2016 at Milwaukee County Historical Society, MSS-0331, Box 6a
*The conference at Grace Church, Madison was transcribed into the book Liturgical Renewal of the Church: Addresses of the Liturgical Conference Held in Grace Church May 19-21, 1958 (Oxford University Press, 1960)  

Michael Metts is a Ph.D. candidate in New Testament at the University of Aberdeen specializing in historical Jesus studies.  He is joining us today on Doth Protest Too Much to discuss the history of the historical-Jesus studies and help break down the methodologies involved with how scholars of the past three centuries have tried to study Jesus of Nazareth in his historical context and who Jesus was as a historical person. 

We spend some time discussing the three 'quests' of the historical-Jesus as well as Metts' own research on the second or 'New Quest' in his essay featured in a recently published book Jesus, Skepticism, and the Problem of History  (Zondervan Academic, 2019)
I highly recommend checking out this book featuring Metts and several other New Testament scholars. Here is a link to purchase this book (paperback and e-book editions available): https://www.zondervan.com/9780310534761/jesus-skepticism-and-the-problem-of-history/

*The biography of Luther that I mentioned by Heinrich Bornkamm (church historian), the brother of Gunther Bornkamm (a New Quest historical-Jesus scholar) can be accessed and read for free (with subscription) here: https://archive.org/details/lutherinmidcaree0000born/page/152/mode/2up

*This is a link to the book by Martin Kahler that critiqued the early quest for the Historical-Jesus which we mentioned but didn’t have time to get into:
https://www.amazon.com/So-Called-Historical-Historic-Biblical-Fortress/dp/0800632060

Louisiana historian Dr. Cheryl White joins the podcast in this episode to discuss the 19th-century Episcopal missionary bishop Leonidas Polk and the Episcopal Church during the Civil War. We also scratch the surface of some of Dr. White's other research interests (the shroud of Turin and the Yellow Fever epidemics of Louisiana).

Dr. Cheryl White is a Professor of History at Louisiana State University in Shreveport. Her research interests include local/regional history, Christian Church history, Tudor England, Late Medieval Europe, and Folklore. She is the author or co-author of several books including Historic Haunts of Shreveport, Wicked Shreveport, A Haunting Past: Essays on Folklore of Louisiana Antebellum Plantations, and Confederate General Leonidas Polk: Louisiana’s Fighting Bishop published in 2013 (which we discuss as Polk is the main topic of today’s conversation). If you are interested in further reading of this book, copies can be purchased at this linked: https://www.arcadiapublishing.com/Products/9781609497378
 
Episode shownotes:

*The book on the shroud that Andrew mentions is The Shroud: Fresh Light on the 2000-Year-Old Mystery by Ian Wilson (Bantam Books, 2010). It is available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003D87PS6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

*The book mentioned that is by Bishop Charles McIlvaine that is his rebuttal of the Oxford Movement from his evangelical perspective is Oxford Divinity Compared with that of  the Romish and Anglican Churches. A full digitized copy be accessed (for free) at this link: https://archive.org/details/a591301900mciluoft/mode/2up

*The upcoming book we mentioned from Dr. White that she co-authors with Ryan Smith and Fr. Peter Mangum on the Roman Catholic priests who lost their lives in the Yellow Fever epidemic in Shreveport is titled The Surest Path to Heaven: Shreveport Martyrs of 1873.

Delightful episode and discussion with Stephen D. Morrison, author of the Plain English series where he brings the thought of famous theologians to beginning readers of theology. On this episode, we discuss the theological legacy of T.F. Torrance, his engagement with science, his Christ-centeredness, and his pastoral answer to the "burning question" (tune in to hear what this is).Stephen Morrison is the author of thirteen books on theology, fiction, and literary criticism. He describes himself as a "life-long student" with "no fixed allegiances". You can check out more of his work at www.sdmorrison.org

Episode shownotes:We referenced a quote in this episode from page 50 of Alexandra Radcliff's book The Claim of Humanity in Christ: Salvation and Sanctification in the Theology of T.F. and J.B. Torrance, (Wipf & Stock Publishers, 2016).

The books that host Andrew refers people to for further reading on atonement theologies are:

*Crucifixion: Understanding the Death of Jesus Christ by Fleming Rutledge (William B. Eerdman's Publish, 2015)

*Atonement and the Death of Christ: An Exegetical, Historical, and Philosophical Exploration by William Lane Craig (Baylor University Press, 2020)

Rev. Sean Duncan joins us on this episode to discuss the great Elizabethan theologian Richard Hooker.
Sean serves as the rector of Trinity Episcopal Church in Marshall, TX. He is passionate about Christian education and is enrolled in a Ph.D. program at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. He believes in staying true to Anglicanism while adapting to the methods of the future. Join Sean and Andrew as they discuss an important and defining era of Anglican history, and why not only every Episcopalian/Anglican but every Christian should read some Richard Hooker.

Episode shownotes:
The book we reference and encourage you to read that Sean is a co-editor of and that brings Richard Hooker's classic works into modern and accessible English is The Laws of Ecclesiastical Polity: Volume 1 in Modern English from the Davenant Press, 2019. Available for purchase at this link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PPB46BJ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

*Also, the mentions of Richard Hooker by Russel Kirk and Gary Dorrien are as follows:

“Hooker’s fundamental aim, to defend the Elizabethan settlement, was deeply conservative, as was his theology… Yet his commitment to the authority of reason and his ecumenical ecclesiology planted the seeds of Anglican Latitudinarianism and Broad Church Liberalism.”- Gary Dorrien from Kantian Reason and Hegelian Spirit: The Idealistic Logic of Modern Theology (Wiley Blackwell & Sons, 2012) p. 109

 “In Richard Hooker one discovers profound conservative observations which Burke inherited with his Anglicanism and which Hooker drew in part from the Schoolmen and their authorities…” – Russel Kirk from The Conservative Mind  (Stellar Classics, e-book edition) location 218

Jacqueline Mariña is one of our current day's leading experts on the 19th-century theological giant Friedrich Schleiermacher. Her areas of expertise include Schleiermacher, Philosophy of Religion, and also the work of Immanuel Kant.  Join us for some discussion on Immanuel Kant and Friedrich Schleiermacher in this episode and their influence on philosophy and theology.  I am honored to have such an accomplished scholar on the show.
 
A link to various articles authored by of Dr. Mariña over the years:  https://purdue.academia.edu/JacquelineMarina

For a copy of her book Transformation of the Self in the Thought of Schleiermacher (Oxford University Press, 2008) visit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PIIX5A/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

This is a re-upload of our recent episode with Dr. Edwards. We had some audio issues with the episode. We were able to slightly improve it through an editing software a friend recommended. I will leave both versions of the episode up.

Description of the episode: Whether portrayed as a martyr for the Protestant faith or as a paragon of Victorian virtue, the story of Lady Jane Grey, or Queen Jane, has fascinated the popular imagination for over five centuries. Dr. J. Stephan Edwards joins me on this episode of the podcast to discuss where history ends and where myth begins, and vice versa, in regard to Jane's life and history.

Jane's story, against the backdrop of Tudor England and the tumultuous time between religious parties, continues to fascinate many though actual scholarship on her is few and far in between. I am honored to have had Dr. Edwards on here to discuss his work and research over the years, and to bring a more scholarly angle to the treatment of Jane's story. Dr. Edwards is the host of somegreymatter.com and is the author of the books A Queen of a New Invention: Portraits of Lady Jane Grey Dudley, England's Nine Days Queen and Lady Jane Grey's Prayer Book: British Library Harley Manuscript 2342 both from Old John Publishing. He was the consultant on the recent three-part docu-drama series England's Forgotten Queen: the Life and Death of Lady Jane Grey which we discuss parts of in the podcast.

What are the metaphysical and spiritual realities going on when we receive the Communion? Dr. James Arcadi joins us to discuss the English Reformer and father of Anglican liturgy Thomas Cranmer, Cranmer's theology of the Holy Eucharist, and the spectrum of beliefs on the Eucharist across Christianity.

Dr. Arcadi is the Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. He is the author of the book An Incarnational Model of the Eucharist (Cambridge University Press, 2018).

In this episode, we discuss content from Dr. Arcadi's  articles “Discerning the Body of Christ: a Retrieval of Thomas Cranmer’s Eucharistic Theology by Way of the Spiritual Senses” from the Journal of Anglican Studies and "Recent Philosophical Work on the Doctrine of the Eucharist" from Philosophy Compass.

I was honored to have a great discussion with leading Reformation scholar N. Scott Amos on the sometimes overlooked 16th century Reformation figure Martin Bucer, and Bucer's influence on Anglican liturgy and the Book of Common Prayer.
We primarily discuss content and background of his article "Martin Bucer and the Revision of the 1549 Prayer Book" in the Reformation & Renaissance Review.
Dr. Amos is the Professor of History and Chair of the History Department at the University Lynchburg. He is the author of the book Bucer, Ephesians, and Biblical Humanism: The Exegete as Theologian published in 2015, and is the editor of the upcoming fourth volume of the Reformation Commentary on Scripture for the books of Joshua, Judges, & Ruth.

This episode is anything but miserable!  Isaac Rehberg from the Anglican podcast Miserable Offenders joins us to discuss his top 5 favorite theologians (it is a good list), and Rev. Andrew shares a couple of his as well.

Episode shownotes:
Andrew refers to a couple of quotations from Karl Barth that can be found at:
-Theology and Church: Shorter Writings 1920-1928. (New
York/Evanston: Harper & Row Publishers, 1962) page 247
-Keith Johnson, ed. The Essential Karl Barth: A Reader and Commentary. (Grand Rapids,
MI: Baker Academic, 2019) page 116

*the book on Augustine that Rev. Andrew mentions is St. Augustine of Hippo: The Christian Transformation of Political Philosophy by R.W. Dyson

*the Revelation commentary I could not think of in the moment was Revelation: Interpretation: A Bible Commentary for Teaching and Preaching by M. Eugene Boring

*the man that Luther debated about communion in both kinds and who he refered to as a "vile smelling toilet" in his writing Babylonian Captivity of the Church  was Jerome Emser

Check out Isaac's podcast Miserable Offenders, which he co-hosts with Jesse Nigro and Andrew Brashier. It is a podcast on theology, culture, and the church while drawing from classical Anglican sources.

Rev. Zac Neubauer, president of Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communtion- USA joins Rev. Andrew for a discussion on the ethos and history of Evangelical-Anglicanism.

The title the Word of God does the Work of God comes from Zac’s quoting of Mark Ashton’s book Christ and His People: Eight Convictions About the Local Church. Christian Focused, 2016.

Works referenced in this episode:

Cranmer's doctrine of the Eucharist: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_of_the_True_and_Catholic_Doctrine_of_the_Sacrament_of_the_Body_and_Blood_of_Christ?fbclid=IwAR2wH9GFaSnEHJ9s7gV8PsoqeiKPFjGIiex5XN3X1j2_rWoac7bxyX5ahLg

Alister McGrath on Anglo-catholicism: https://calvinistinternational.com/2013/08/21/alister-mcgrath-on-anglo-catholicism/

Rowan Williams quote from his preface to Love's Redeeming Work: The Anglican Quest for Holiness (Oxford University Press, 2001)

Rev. Ben Maddison, a Tik-Tok star, a contributor to Mockingbird blog/magazine, and priest in the Episcopal Diocese of New Jersey discusses low anthropology, the Law and Gospel in the life and thought of Martin Luther and in the history of Anglican-Evangelicalism. We also chat about the band As I Lay Dying and Muppet's Christmas Carol (sound random? it's all connected). Visiti Mockingbird at mbird.com

*Correction: Explosions in the Sky is from Austin. TX... definitely not Fr. Drew's hometown of Saginaw, MI

We discuss quotations from the following books:
*Martin Luther's Theology by Bernhard Lohse (Fortress Press)
*The Church Confident: Christianity Can Repent but It Must Not Whimper by Leander Keck (Abingdon Press, 1993)
*Ask Him Anything: God Can Handle Your Hardest Questions by Lloyd Ogilvie (Grason, 1983)
*Streams of Living Water: Celebrating the Great Traditions of Christ by Richard Foster (Harper One, 2010)

The link to Rev. Sarah Condon's Mockingbird article that was mentioned by Rev. Ben is here: 
https://mbird.com/2017/10/reformation-celebration-i-will-drink-your-tears-with-my-champagne/

In this episode, Andrew joins a good friend and youth minister Stephen Burnett to discuss the history of revival Christianity, Stephen's own experience in the Pentecostal church, the filioque clause, and the life of the famous evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson.

In this episode, we referenced a quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer found at the link: https://www.faith-theology.com/2009/10/why-i-still-confess-filioque.html?m=1

We also referenced the excellent biography of Aimee Semple McPherson by Daniel Mark Epstein, Sister Aimee: The Life of Aimee Semple McPherson.E-book and Paperback editions of this book available heree: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IHHQXHM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Also, Jamie Lee Curtis is the actress in Christmas with the Kranks.