In this episode of Ear Expansion, host LaMont Hamilton interviews Abdul Bilal Hakim, also known as Grey Wulf, about their sonic and spiritual journey. The discussion covers Abdul's early formation in sound, the influence of his Afro-Indigenous background, and the impact of artists like Keiji Haino and Stephen O'Malley. Abdul recounts their transformative experiences, such as working in Alaska and undergoing spiritual rituals led by their mentor. They explore the themes of their music, including cathartic sound exploration, spiritual transformation, and the evolution reflected in their albums. The episode highlights Abdul's growth from creating music rooted in rage and guilt to expressing joy and self-acceptance while maintaining a deep connection with his spiritual practices.