Welcome to the "Fired From Big Jobs" Club

We talk to television writer and producer Lesley Arfin about getting fired from big jobs, being a "scary girl," leadership styles, mentors, collaboration, earning respect, and how women in their 40s haven't peaked yet. Plus: Hobbies! And, life update: One of us is in love.

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