Episode 230: Talk Thirty To Me with Anna Malaika Tubbs

Kate and Doree share an exciting announcement and each pursue a new form of movement. Then, Anna Malaika Tubbs, author of The Three Mothers, joins them to discuss her bedtime routine, her recent 30th birthday and the ways she made it special, the importance and magnitude of both generational trauma and strength, and her next book about patriarchy in America. 

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