Cyphus and Roland are joined by Dota 2 power couple and Moonduck Studios co-creators SUNSfan and Sajedene to talk their histories, how they met, how money is distributed/made in the e-sports world, the future of e-sports and Dota 2, and how a symmetrical Dota 2 map would be the bee's knees. All this and more on the latest episode of the gaming podcast.