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Brain-like AGI and why it's Dangerous (with Steven Byrnes)

73 min • 4 april 2025

On this episode, Steven Byrnes joins me to discuss brain-like AGI safety. We discuss learning versus steering systems in the brain, the distinction between controlled AGI and social-instinct AGI, why brain-inspired approaches might be our most plausible route to AGI, and honesty in AI models. We also talk about how people can contribute to brain-like AGI safety and compare various AI safety strategies.  

You can learn more about Steven's work at: https://sjbyrnes.com/agi.html  

Timestamps:  

00:00 Preview  

00:54 Brain-like AGI Safety 

13:16 Controlled AGI versus Social-instinct AGI  

19:12 Learning from the brain  

28:36 Why is brain-like AI the most likely path to AGI?  

39:23 Honesty in AI models  

44:02 How to help with brain-like AGI safety  

53:36 AI traits with both positive and negative effects  

01:02:44 Different AI safety strategies

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