'The Kardashians' End-of-Season Deep Dive with Steph Perlman of Betches

Betches' entertainment editor Steph Perlman joins Gibson Johns to discuss all things Kardashians now that season 5 of "The Kardashians" on Hulu has come to a close. With the show renewed for three more seasons, the first family of reality TV is going nowhere — but what to make of the show having its most boring and least talked about season yet? Steph and Gibson discuss the state of the show, what they'd like to see more of in the future, the Kardashians' place in pop culture and large and much more.

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