18. "Embrace of the Trade Winds" ft. Zach Phillips

Fievel is Glauque songwriter and co-leader Zach Phillips joins the podcast in-person to discuss his creative process and recording ethos, contrasting his own approach to making music to Becker and Fagen's. We also talk about Walter's solo album 11 Tracks of Whack and share some thoughts on the new "Second Arrangement." Produced with additional commentary by Winston Cook-Wilson.