Kamikaze Jones and I return for a liminal episode of Anal Auteurs to discuss the late experimental filmmaker, Kenneth Anger. We chat about sex magic, James Dean as a human ashtray, the whore of Babylon and Scientology, the fraught history of occult mysticism and the aesthetics of fascism…and more! Note: we were very tired recording this and at one point say “the isle of Dr. Caligari” instead of “the cabinet.” We combined Moreau and Caligari, oops!