COVID-19 Files: Ep. 7

Hello gut check project fans and KBMD health family We are here for what we think is going to be the last installment of the COVID files Episode 7.0. I'm here with your host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. And I honestly we, we got to a point where maybe we've just kind of COVID'd out. So we're going to book in this with some very important information simply because it's stuff that just came up. So what do you say Dr. Brown?

Absolutely. I mean, I think a lot of people with everything that's gone on recently, it is just absolute overload. Part of the overload also is the amount of literature that's coming out regarding this whole COVID situation. We hear one thing we...you know, something else happens we know that all of a sudden, there's articles being retracted now and we're going to talk about that and then there's articles where this and that now it early on, if you look at our original COVID files, I really felt like we were doing a great job of staying of informing our audience and we stayed way ahead of the mainstream media. We were saying things quite honestly a couple months before stuff started getting out. And now we're finding out that okay, everybody's now starting to get or everybody you can get a preprint done, which now you can look up and you can do this and that's what we're going to talk about. I do have a kind of cool preprint whether it's true or not, but now it's almost like you have to put an Asterix next to scientific studies that are being put out there. And that's what we want to talk about today. Because as of this week, the who unfortunately got put under fire a little bit for saying some things and we want to talk about that. We want to then hopefully move on, get back to gut check project, get back to talking about food, nutrition, health, lifestyle, biohacking, all kinds of stuff that's a little bit more in our wheelhouse, but we I think we did a really good job of addressing the COVID attack that came on but I think it's, we just have to wait and see how it plays out now and then re circle back when everything's open.

I'm in no, no joke. So let's let's just get straight to it. So and I'll preface only by saying this COVID file 7.0. And then we've had the half sessions where fortunately, Dr. Stewart Akerman has joined Dr. Brown to bring pertinent information for tests and interpretation. We've we've really kind of slowed down on trying to dive in much more on COVID because there's just been so much information just like what you said. And then what occurred earlier this week with some probably more misstated information than misinformation. 

Misstated is the way to say it, yeah, yeah, for sure. 

It's the World Health Organization which, by which full admission from my end you sometimes you kind of have to wonder what all of their motivations are. However, I feel that in this particular situation where Maria Van Kerkhove or Kerkhove I could be mispronouncing her name completely. I don't want to butcher it.

Yeah, well, I've got yeah, I wanted to talk about that because her and I are actually pretty good friends. Yeah, I mean, like the press refers to her is Dr. Van Kerkhove, but I know as Maria Rosanna de Joseph Van Kerkhove and that's how I address her because we're close like that.

That's cool, she sounded like she was from Nebraska. There's no doubt

Maria Rosanne de Joseph Van Kerkhove. There's some Latin influence we've got some Italian we've got some I think de Joseph is what is de Joseph if you have a D if it's a MC, something McClanahan then you say Irish a de Joseph a D, with a little E. Large J what is that?

De Joseph? I'm not really...

Van seems somewhat Dutch. Kerkhove seems 

Scotch Romanian. 

Scotch Romanian Yeah, yeah. So, but it's funny because this this poor woman was at a press conference and was asked a question and she said something to the effect of basically oh, asymptomatic people probably can't transmit or it was just off the cuff. And literally, within minutes, reporters were tweeting the statement, which then became virally shared on social media, which then was immediately put on the news networks. And then we've got poor Dr. Fauci coming on going aye you know he probably call it i'm sure they're friends he's like, and I'm sure there is good enough friends as me and her are so Dr. Fauci called Maria Roseanne de Joseph Maria Rosanne de Joseph Van Kerkhove. I think and she just went I know Dr. Fauci, I'm that was at a press conference and I was just talking to a colleague. So

So let's let's break down what she said she she basically interpreted and she has backtracked, but initially she made it sound as if acement....asymptomatic people or people who are not showing symptoms, even if infected, rarely transmit disease. Now this is this was big news because the reasons why we worked so hard to actively flatten the curve was because there was a threat of you may be spreading disease and having no idea. So in essence, what she initially said or the way it was interpreted was, well, what we thought was this massive threat. It's not that it doesn't exist. It's just not quite to the level that maybe we first were describing. And even I when I heard that I turned to you, I was like, did you hear what they just came out with?

Oh, no, I mean, that's part of the problem. We're still socially distancing. But as soon as you heard her say that and you got the tweet, you drove the hour and 10 minutes to the studio and I was like, whoa, I'm like, what are you doing we're socially distancing? You're like, didn't you hear what the who said? It doesn't anymore! I'm symptomatic. We're fine. And, you know, unfortunately, you know, I was masked up wearing my body suit and stuff and I sprayed you with the hose, get out of here, go back, go back to Decatur. because we're still socially distancing. Hmm.

Well, I think I just offended Eric, because he apparently dropped off this zoom call. So we've lost him for a moment. But it is true. What he's saying is that the who statement that Dr. van kerkhove mentioned off the cuff was essentially I apologize to our audience that I think I offended you when I said go back to Decatur because you you fell off, I apologize. I'm just saying will you please accept my apology and remain on this podcast with me? 

Yes, I will.

Ok thank you. 

I was really, really hurt there. 

You're very, very forgiving man. So I was just, I was just reiterating that the doctor said an off the cuff statement that asymptomatic people. But what's really what the reason why Dr. fauci had to get involved. And the reason why it suddenly became spread through the news networks is because everything seems to become political. So that was why did we close the economy down? Oh, my gosh, let's get out there. And, you know, we were just talking on the last call that we just had with our partner, Mike logs in about how he was given the numbers in Texas. Some of the highest hospitalizations that we've had. I mean, I didn't see the article. Did you? Take a look at it? Actually,

I did. And I'm going to butcher the last two digits. But essentially, the high watermark I think, was 1900 hospitalizations within one day. And the numbers that they came up with this morning, I believe, is they closed business yesterday was 2500. And change. Yeah, so significantly higher percentage wise, probably for a state of, you know, several million. Still a low percentage overall, but regardless, it's it's climbing and what's very, very important healthcare is trends, because trends are what guide us in what it is that we have to treat. So numbers, maybe not huge percentages. Certainly noticeable but the growth and the trend is is what you need to keep an eye on and currently, we are technically on an upward trend and I and by the way, I'll add that the last three weeks temperatur...