Come take a dive into the minds and motivations of Black Hats from across the world. E.J. Hilbert shares stories and insights of his time in the cyber crime unit of the FBI, being on the forefront of identify and financial data theft, and working with Max Popov, a Ukrainian prisoner shackled to a conference room desk at Ant City. We also dive into Infosec education and why higher education has been slow to adopt it as a major as well as why physical/personnel security and information security are one in the same. If you want to read more about E.J.’s time with Max Popov and Ant City, here is the link: https://www.wired.com/2016/05/maksym-igor-popov-fbi/