[39:00] THEN, Jess welcomes Dr. Amador, Bethenny Frankel’s therapist on her spinoffs + RHONY season 7. We go deep on the infamous “Lost at Sea” episode in which Dr. Amador took Bethenny & Jason on a sailing trip to Nantucket in which he lost GPS signal and they were stranded at sea for 30 hours. Dr. Amador shares his observations of Jason Hoppy and why he was not surprised at his behavior during the divorce. We also chat about the authenticity of “reality TV therapy” and Dr. Amador sheds light on Bethenny's addiction (or habit) to being seen.