How About Tomorrow?

Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence join us to talk about whether "full stack" is a term worth using in 2024, how Laravel differs from Rails, why there isn't a real JavaScript community, what Taylor would like to see from the Remix community, and whether Laravel is like Canada.

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• wip: terminal
• ButcherBox: Meat Delivery Subscription
• Cloud Monitoring as a Service | Datadog
• Connect, Protect and Build Everywhere | Cloudflare
• Adam Wathan (@adamwathan) / X
• What is Amazon API Gateway? - Amazon API Gateway
• Inertia.js - The Modern Monolith
• Reason · Reason lets you write simple, fast and quality type safe code while leveraging both the JavaScript & OCaml ecosystems.

Topics:

• (00:00) - Filthy JavaScript developers
• (00:30) - What does full stack mean?
• (10:46) - How Laravel different from Rails?
• (16:17) - Is the frontend and backend team divide real?
• (18:47) - Why isn't there a JavaScript community?
• (36:32) - Are JavaScript frameworks in the best position to be the fullest stack?
• (46:18) - What about Blitz.js?
• (49:34) - What would Tayor like to see from the Remix community?
• (54:41) - Is Rails worse than building an app with Cloudflare?
• (56:38) - Is the top of funnel for web development JavaScript?
• (01:07:17) - Is Laravel like Canada?

Can you tell that Adam's moved his desk? We talk about how Adam's making banana ice cream, time travel possibilities, the opportunities afforded us as software engineers, being optimistic or a downer on Twitter, the Google IO event compared with the OpenAI event, and reasons to build identical houses.

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• wip: terminal (initial commit)
• Ninja™ CREAMi™
• The Order of Time
• Carlo Rovelli’s Time Order
• Google I/O 2024
• Introducing GPT-4o
• Her
• Dune: Part Two

Topics:

• (00:00) - This is the beauty of editing
• (00:47) - Adam's moved (his desk)
• (02:47) - Our partner for coffee
• (10:52) - Adam makes banana ice cream but with a new device
• (15:03) - Is time travel possible?
• (18:43) - Opportunity cost as a software engineer
• (36:47) - Gamestop stock is surging again
• (40:19) - Debbie Downer vs Optimistic Adam
• (56:04) - Learning from Crypto to inform AI
• (01:02:13) - The Google IO event
• (01:07:22) - The OpenAI event
• (01:11:17) - Her, Dune 2, and good audio
• (01:15:13) - Why would you build an identical house?
• (01:22:17) - Listening at 2x speed

Dax has parenting advice for everyone, Adam worries about the point of even living, college as a scam, and theories on the anxious generation.

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• Dax's picture of Adam
• Apple apologizes for iPad Pro ‘Crush’ ad: it ‘missed the mark’ | Ad Age
• iPad Pro Criticized
• Ryan Florence’s iPad Anger
• Dax Interview Impact
• Anxious Generation Book

Topics:

• (00:00) - It's just like having a dog
• (00:33) - The third time's the charm
• (02:02) - Dax's good news
• (06:00) - Apple's iPad announcement
• (18:37) - Parenting and technology
• (28:53) - Haircuts
• (33:08) - What is the point of being alive?
• (42:28) - College is a scam
• (54:01) - Terminal shipping

Are Dax and Adam (and the rest of the Terminal.shop crew) drug dealers? We're talking about the coffee industry, what Terminal.shop is built on, the origin story of Terminal.shop, and how cool it feels to ship physical goods in the real world that real humans will hold in their real human hands.

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• wip: terminal (initial commit)
• Charm
• bashbunni - Twitch

Topics:

• (00:00) - Dax realizes (again) how amazing he is
• (00:29) - Dax ruins oat milk
• (06:14) - EVery company is now a tech company
• (11:57) - Learning about the coffee industry first hand
• (15:05) - Terminal coffee update
• (30:41) - How did we build terminal.shop?
• (38:19) - The fun of running a physical goods business vs software
• (45:04) - The origin story behind Terminal.shop
• (53:49) - Working with a legal drug

Everyone's recovering from React Miami and the party at Dax's - oh and we launched a company for buying products like coffee in the terminal!

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• terminal.shop
• TwitchCon

Topics:

• (00:31) - This episode brought to you by our sponsor
• (01:53) - Catching everyone up on the last few weeks
• (06:48) - How was Miami?
• (12:28) - Waving at the summit
• (18:50) - How walkable is your city?
• (24:43) - How late do you eat?
• (31:26) - Building for the terminal

Adam's flying as you read this, and he's definitively not still sick. We're talking about Adam's internet being hacked, updates on our secret project, Cloudflare news, NextJS and Vercel benchmarking drama, and very important planning for React Miami and what to feed Adam.

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• Cloudflare acquires PartyKit to allow developers to build real-time multi-user applications
• Cloudflare acquires Baselime to expand serverless application observability capabilities
• React Miama

Topics:

• (00:00) - Adam is basically here. Here being in Miami.
• (00:37) - Dr. Dax diagnosing Adam
• (04:34) - Why is sound on the web so bad?
• (07:05) - Is someone hacking Adam's internet?
• (12:09) - Update on our secret project
• (13:11) - Cloudflare news
• (17:48) - NextJS Vercel infastructure
• (27:45) - Benchmarking Vercel
• (33:21) - Is it possible to have a good console?
• (38:00) - There's only so much caring in a company
• (41:05) - Plans for React Miami
• (51:49) - How we going to feed Adam?

How long do you think Adam's crazy expensive Apple monitor will last? Dax tries to pass off all his front end tasks to Liz, Lambda fixed a streaming bug, Adam catches up on Cloudflare Dev week, Dax tries to make fun of Adam about Huberman, AI rizz and Gaussian splatting, and LEGO, Disney, and Universal all nailed it.

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• Home · tmux/tmux Wiki
• Visual Studio Code Server
• Josh’s Online Courses
• Copilot Programmer
• The Pillars of the Earth (miniseries)
• Suno AI
• Dax’s AI Bangers
• The Cloudflare Blog
• Aaron Francis on X: “@thdxr I’ll wait, thanks.” / X
• California Workers' Rights
• Andrew Huberman Profile
• 3D Gaussian Splatting

Topics:

• (00:00) - The mystery project is...
• (00:42) - How long does a monitor last?
• (02:25) - Who wants to do front end dev really?
• (15:42) - Is AI just crypto bros take two?
• (34:44) - Would you chill at a relaxed job vs going to create more in a company?
• (38:15) - Lambda fixed the streaming bug
• (45:19) - Cloudflare Dev week
• (54:51) - How does Cloudflare pricing really work?
• (01:06:49) - React Miami teaser
• (01:08:33) - Was Twitter boring this week?
• (01:10:36) - Is working long hours in software dev bad?
• (01:18:50) - Andrew Huberman's methods of control
• (01:26:08) - AI has no rizz
• (01:30:47) - Gaussian splatting
• (01:36:58) - LEGO nailed it
• (01:41:31) - Disney nailed it
• (01:43:08) - Universal nailed it

Adam tries on a chain for Florida, Linear fixes GitHub Issues issue for Dax, big vs small vs medium dev teams, how long do startup devs actually have to develop, how much of a factor is luck in a startup's success or failure, Disney and media bundling and unbundling, and are Adam Sandler movies actually any good?

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• GitHub Integration – Linear
• Paddle – The complete payments, tax, and subscriptions solution for SaaS
• Paddle Board Rentals
• Baumol Effect
• Bundling and Unbundling
• Claude  Anthropic
• Adam Sandler Films
• Uncut Gems 2019 Film Reviews
• React Miami

Topics:

• (00:00) - Squeeky boom
• (00:28) - Adam tries on a chain - or is it a necklace?
• (03:55) - Do you track your sleep?
• (04:38) - Linear fixes GitHub issues?
• (10:08) - Big team vs small team vs medium team
• (20:57) - Where do startup founders go when their startup dies?
• (25:02) - How long is the window for a developer?
• (30:11) - Do you feel like it's all going to come down to luck?
• (38:21) - It feels like any aquisition feels like a failure
• (42:08) - Disney, IP, ESPN, and sports rights
• (48:08) - Bundling and unbundling
• (50:07) - LLM pricing instability
• (54:02) - Let's cool it on the robots
• (56:11) - Are Adam Sandlar

Dax talks about the launch of SST Ion, a video he shot to promote it and get ahead of the q's people ask, what the migration path is like, should companies still do a launch week, the benefits of an SQLite production, catching up on Astro DB, should Adam take a detour into Zed land, Dax goes Mac, finding time to watch movies or play video games, and physical limitations overcome with neural implants.

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• SST Ion is finally here
• Ion
• sst/ion: ❍ — a new engine for SST
• Experience up to 40% faster stack creation with AWS CloudFormation
• How we sped up AWS CloudFormation deployments with optimistic stabilization | AWS DevOps Blog
• Navigate the AWS Maze with Confidence | Pro AWS
• Astro DB
• Turso — SQLite for Production
• Prettier Daemon
• Zed Coding Speed
• Arch Linux
• Raycast
• Alacritty Terminal Emulator
• Tinker Tailor Soldier
• AI Business Apps
• Neuralink enables chess play

Topics:

• (00:00) - 10 years of Arch will do it to you
• (00:39) - Launching SST Ion
• (13:49) - What's the migration path right now?
• (15:30) - Should companies still do a launch week?
• (18:39) - What are the benefits of SQLite based development?
• (25:26) - Catching up on Astro DB?
• (31:18) - What is SST competing with?
• (34:07) - Should Adam take a detour into Zed land?
• (35:31) - Dax goes Mac
• (44:20) - Finding time to game or watch movies
• (01:06:14) - Did you remember Neural Link?
• (01:12:19) - Physical limitations of getting older

A brief list of topics discussed in this brief episode: New Jersey follow up from last episode, PlanetScale layoffs and performative twitter responses, free tiers aren't going to last forever, the Devin AI demo, Astro's file format choices, Adam has no thoughts about capitalism, does online bitterness extend to real life, why aren't more of us using Cameo for shit posting, Adam needs more movies to watch, and Dax learns about Adam's LOTR obsession.

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• Aaron Francis (@aarondfrancis) / X
• How About Tomorrow?
• Devin: AI Engineer
• Copilot
• AI Pair Programmer
• GPT Prompt Plugin
• Cursor Code Editor
• Home
• I Am Legend
• I Am Legend 2007 Francis Lawrence
• Favorite Stars Personalized
• Ex Machina Film Review
• Oscar Best Picture Winners by Nayan
• The Wolf of Wall Street
• Killers of the Flower Moon
• Nolan’s Films
• Scorsese’s Films
• Quentin Tarantino Films
• There Will Be Blood
• No Country for Old Men Film Review
• Dune 2021 Film Reviews
• Dune: Part Two
• Guillermo del Toro Films
• The Fellowship of the Ring
• Ian Mckellen Hobbit Breakdown
• King Kong 2005 Peter Jackson
• Mulan Trailer
• Marley & Me Film Reviews
• PlanetScale performs layoff and prioritizes profitability

Topics:

• (00:00) - Adam leaves special messages for you on YouTube
• (00:37) - New Jersey slander on Twitter
• (06:00) - PlanetScale layoffs
• (14:37) - Performative Twitter and the stupidity of responses
• (21:14) - The free tier system
• (29:22) - Weird noises in the yard
• (31:52) - The Devin demo
• (41:07) - Astro choosing their own file format
• (45:01) - Adam doesn't think about capitalism
• (51:44) - Does online bitterness extend to real life?
• (57:58) - Is the future going to be cleaner or messier?
• (01:04:16) - Why is Twitter the best developer community?
• (01:05:20) - Cameo as an underutilized service for shitposting
• (01:09:10) - What movies should Adam watch?
• (01:17:08) - Miami plans
• (01:34:52) - Adam sold a domain

Dax's internet is bad, but so are all the internet providers. Should Ken buy a farm as a backup plan to when AI takes over? And does Adam ever feel anything at all? What if this is all a simulation? And how has humanity survived this long really?

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• Astro
• esbuild - An extremely fast bundler for the web
• Buy Trees Online | FastGrowingTrees.com
• Stardew Valley
• Transistor
• ‎The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) directed by Martin Scorsese • Reviews, film + cast • Letterboxd
• ‎Dunkirk (2017) directed by Christopher Nolan • Reviews, film + cast • Letterboxd
• ‘Dunkirk,’ With Quentin Tarantino, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan - The Ringer
• Shōgun (2024 miniseries)

• (00:00) - Shhhh Ken's back
• (00:28) - Dax's bad internet
• (02:33) - The internet's bad internet
• (04:01) - Working on large, old shit
• (10:28) - Will tree shaking ever work?
• (13:11) - Buying a farm instead of dealing with AI
• (14:52) - Mango talk
• (21:27) - Does Adam feel anything? EveR?
• (27:41) - What do you do when you hang out with people?
• (28:38) - Ken's thoughts on AI
• (37:07) - What if we end up in a simulation?
• (42:41) - Shogun and exploration
• (47:12) - How has humanity (and Dax) survived?
• (01:02:14) - Do people just hang out anymore?

Dax is on the move, Adam learns about grills, and Ken Wheeler stops by for a two episode conversation arc. In this episode we're comparing weather, what we do in a hotel, fishing in the Ozarks and hunting in New Jersey, visiting a temple, using ChatGPT voice to learn, and the kids these days have no respect for NSync.

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• Downdetector
• Big Green Egg: The Original Kamado, since 1974
• Kamado Joe® | Ceramic Grills | Ceramic Smoker | Kamado Grill
• Slow Productivity: Cal Newport On How To Escape Burnout, Do Your Best Work & Achieve More By Doing Less – Rich Roll
• Nikita Bier on X: “Maybe we wouldn’t be so glued to our phones if they weren’t the most interesting thing in the world” / X
• StockX: Sneakers, Streetwear, Trading Cards, Handbags, Watches
• baps temple new jersey
• 50 Cent: Bulletproof
• Martha & Snoop
• Snoop Dogg Legal Action

• (00:00) - Worlds colliding
• (01:32) - How does Dax sound?
• (07:22) - Dax is still moving
• (11:24) - Adam learns something new today: grill edition
• (14:05) - Do you ever think about doing a different profession?
• (16:12) - Golf and data science
• (21:31) - Introducing Ken Wheeler
• (26:46) - Weather update
• (31:40) - The hotel experience
• (35:34) - Fishing in the Ozarks and hunting in New Jersey
• (43:06) - Visiting a Hindu temple
• (46:25) - Using ChatGPT voice to learn
• (49:22) - No respect for NSync

The SM7B is everywhere. Adam and Dax can't wait for their AI coworkers to arrive, but should you be concerned about your job with AI? And what does E/ACC mean? Adam asks Dax about his tweets and rules for Twitter. And the US healthcare system is broken with no fix in sight.

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• SM7B - Vocal Microphone - Shure USA
• Perplexity
• Dax on X: “you’ve all had co2 monitors for over a month now and i haven’t seen an improvement”
• Query Insights — PlanetScale Documentation
• Introducing the Data API for Amazon Aurora Serverless v2 and Amazon Aurora provisioned clusters | AWS Database Blog
• AI description of this episode.

• (00:00) - Do it at the beginning
• (00:29) - Mics and mic technique
• (05:32) - AI developer coworkers
• (18:09) - What does the best programming language look like in the future?
• (24:39) - Are we too optimistic about AI's future?
• (29:28) - AI is great for cleaning up data
• (33:17) - You don't have to be human with AI
• (38:16) - What does E/ACC mean?
• (40:39) - The White House says we should write Rust
• (42:07) - Adam asks Dax about his tweets
• (44:00) - Dax's Twitter avatar rule
• (46:24) - What's PlanetScale Insights?
• (53:18) - The state of health care in America
• (01:02:13) - Interest rates going down - or up?
• (01:03:39) - Meta ask: leave us a rating please!
• (01:08:03) - Would you get Neuralink?

Adam and Dax recognize they love monotony and physicality in work, and so are making plans for a post software career, Adam needs your help picking out a good movie to watch, why are web ad companies programming so poorly, how can we save our companies from AI, and how do you cope with being connected to everything everywhere all at once?

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• How to support the Zack DeRose family

• (00:00) - Adding a hazmat suit to Adam's wishlist
• (00:30) - Loving monotony in life and work
• (07:50) - Are software developers like film producers?
• (10:45) - Help Adam find a good movie to watch
• (15:57) - Finding weird reasons things work in the data
• (22:10) - Why are ads programmed so poorly?
• (25:15) - Will we always be a software programmer?
• (33:36) - How can I save my business from AI?
• (37:58) - Are we called software engineers? Developers?
• (44:49) - AI + databases as the future
• (51:14) - Coping with being connected to everything all at once at the same time

Adam's brain gets thrown off course, software rot vs serverless life, subscription payments vs one time payment myths, framework devs vs app devs, Adam figures out what Supabase is, Dax reviews an Apple Vision Pro and has thoughts, all while we're headed towards an AI utopia.

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• Tailwind
• Once
• Plex
• GitHub - benvinegar/counterscale: Scalable web analytics you run yourself on Cloudflare
• Astro
• Bulk Cloud Email Service - Amazon Simple Email Service - AWS
• Connect, Protect and Build Everywhere | Cloudflare
• Vercel: Build and deploy the best Web experiences with The Frontend Cloud – Vercel
• Supabase | The Open Source Firebase Alternative
• Firebase | Google’s Mobile and Web App Development Platform
• Fabrice Bellard
• Jonny Kim
• The Free Software Media System | Jellyfin
• Zuckerberg says Quest 3 is ‘the better product’ vs. Apple’s Vision Pro - The Verge
• Mr. Robot
• ‎Gemini - chat to supercharge your ideas
• React Miami

• (00:00) - Chris will definitely cut this out
• (00:40) - Getting thrown off your week by issues
• (03:39) - Software rot vs serverless life
• (07:59) - Subscriptions vs boxed version
• (16:49) - Framework devs vs app devs
• (23:27) - Why can't cloud providers bake in dollar limits?
• (27:27) - Marker 7
• (33:42) - What do you do if you're getting ddos'd?
• (38:40) - Cloudflare's origin story
• (39:49) - What's Supabase? What's Firebase?
• (42:42) - Reengineering Plex
• (44:48) - Take a visit to Fabrice Bellard's Wikipedia
• (50:43) - Dax's review of Apple Vision Pro
• (01:08:41) - Heading towards an AI utopia
• (01:19:35) - Adam's weight is not a static number and is always fluctuating

Can you control your body with your mind? What about your stomach and food? Adam's got more questions about Dax's tweets, SST is changing to Bun, Adam's tired of all the things but can't stop all the things, Dax is trying to move, and we all have a graph partitioning problem.

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• Serial: Season One
• The Clearing
• John Carmack on X
• Stardew Valley
• Most Measured Man
• Blueprint Bryan Johnson
• Exposing Svelte
• Paul Rudd Interview
• Bobbi Althoff
• Effortless Finance
• Bun JavaScript Runtime
• Dax and Adam’s Podcast Guest Suggestions

Topics:

• (00:00) - Adam's not sick
• (00:34) - The power of your mind
• (04:03) - The psychology of food
• (06:49) - True crime podcasting
• (11:31) - Does the amount of people on earth feel more positive or negative?
• (15:25) - The developer family tree
• (18:22) - Do we need more haters?
• (27:26) - Who is Dax subtweeting?
• (33:05) - Why SST is using Bun
• (34:48) - SST live Lambda change
• (38:02) - What about our guests?
• (39:40) - Are you tired of everything?
• (46:04) - What about drugs?
• (49:19) - Dax is trying to move - you'll never guess where
• (57:41) - Our online persona vs reality
• (01:06:49) - Adam's graph partitioning problem

Why don't food companies sponsor podcasts? How rich does Adam need to get to build his own compound? Adam debates skipping on Svelte Melt and going all in on Solid with Dax. And a new segment arrives. Dax explains a tweet to Adam: Corporate Mumbo Jumbo edition.

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• Microsoft/fast: The adaptive interface system for modern web experiences.
• jQuery
• Zag - Rapidly build UI components without sweating over the logic. - Zag
• Alpine.js
• Lit
• Radix UI
• Introduction – Kobalte
• Svelte • Cybernetically enhanced web apps
• Melt UI
• solidjs.com
• Modular Forms: The modular and type-safe form library
• Zod | Documentation
• Moving away from CDK

• (00:00) - Web standards voice guy
• (00:36) - Food companies should be sponsoring tech podcasts
• (05:34) - New money vs old money
• (09:00) - Bundle sizes but not really bundle sizes
• (12:54) - Why is the web standards process so slow?
• (20:13) - Web compponents, React, and why?
• (26:19) - Should Adam skip Svelte and go to Solid?
• (44:25) - Moving away from CDK
• (51:09) - Dax explains a tweet to Adam: corporate mumbo jumbo edition
• (01:03:53) - How's your memory doing?
• (01:12:38) - How do you listen to podcasts?
• (01:14:02) - Dax raps about React

Adam wants to know more about Dax's AI app for movies. Is LinkedIn working for anyone these days? Are Adam and Dax role models? How YC adjacent are you? And what does Clerk do to earn all that investment money?

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• React Miami
• React Conf 2024
• CascadiaJS - a JS conf for the PacNW
• ❍ Movies
• Dax on X: "we’re re-enacting the plot to silicon valley with LLMs
• Clerk, the authentication startup, lands $30M and inks a strategic deal with Stripe | TechCrunch
• WorkOS — Your app, Enterprise Ready.
• AuthKit by WorkOS
• Radix UI

• (00:00) - Clacking and snapping
• (00:42) - First rule of cold plunging
• (02:15) - 2 guys, 1 microphone?
• (04:09) - How about React Miami?
• (06:49) - Dax is now an viral AI expert
• (11:13) - Being afraid of Hacker News
• (14:36) - Is LinkedIn working?
• (16:58) - Do you feel like a role model?
• (24:18) - Are our careers unique or can others do it too?
• (45:31) - Are we in a good or bad tech cycle?
• (50:34) - Being YC adjacent
• (54:06) - Clerk raised a bunch of money
• (01:08:39) - How Adam pronounces Radix makes us uncomfortable

What's with the current discourse around React and RFCs? Adam's worried about his consumerism, and the possible significance of rituals in everyday life. Dax has started reading actual books again, and wonders about the productivity boost of maintaining a clean working environment.

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00:43 Two Twitch Things
04:34 The Lamborghini SUV is a scam
06:38 Does Adam have a problem with consumerism?
14:12 Do you have any spiritual or meditation in life?
20:23 Reacting about React
31:22 Musk's macadamia nut beef
32:55 Brian Johnson study
34:32 Will Adam ever eat a steak again?
41:18 Manifesting a productivity boost
42:42 Dax is reading actual books again

Adam's lifestyle choices and sleep patterns, technical issues with CloudFlare, AWS and AI, real-time, push-based updates, the challenges faced by dev tool companies and the importance of scalability, the difficulty of learning AWS, and the role of SST in curtailing some of these complexities.

00:57 Let's talk about sleep
09:23 Do you use a password manager?
10:48 Adam's Fancy Bed
14:34 Dax's sandbag workout
16:31 Tech layoffs
20:23 The AWS Exodus
23:57 Salaries in tech
24:53 Will Dax ever run out of tweets to tweet?
28:14 How's your CO2?
30:45 There's always money in the banana stand
33:16 Using Cloudflare
44:53 Everyone is stuck on ternarys
48:36 Is it stress or is it the cold plunges?
54:24 React Miami
01:01:08 Is the real time space heating up?
01:10:16 Adam's teaching

An episode recorded in the weird space in the first week of the new year. Dax downgrades to 1 grape instead of 12, Adam almost died (again), Home Assistant and Homebridge and Homekit, SST dreaming, React Miami party plans at Dax's house, and the ulimate question: Does Adam have a face for recording courses?

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Links:

• homelab.
• Apache Hadoop
• Dream Machine Pro - Ubiquiti Store Canada
• Synology Inc.
• Tailscale · Best VPN Service for Secure Networks
• Home Assistant
• Homebridge
• React Miami
• Bryan Johnson’s Quest For Immortality | TIME
• Emmett Shear on X
• Devon Eriksen on X
• Serial: Season One
• Lore

• (00:00) - We are beloved
• (00:42) - Where are we streaming these days?
• (01:52) - Back to work but kind of not
• (04:48) - 1 grape instead of 12
• (07:28) - Adam almost died. Again.
• (09:30) - Setting up a home server aka homelabs
• (25:38) - Filming with an iPhone 15 Pro
• (29:02) - Home Assistant, Homebridge, HomeKit - Oh My!
• (33:42) - Adam's wishlist for SST
• (37:16) - Being comfortable with a group setting
• (40:40) - Looking forward to React Miami
• (46:38) - Iburpofen vs advil and living forever
• (53:41) - Inheritance, capitalism, and taxes
• (01:01:47) - 10,000 episodes to get good at podcasting
• (01:04:43) - Does Adam have a face for making courses?

What's happening with the new version of SST, Ion? Twitter has changed with monetization, Dax's thoughts on the triangle company, the debate between single-page applications (SPAs) and server-rendered apps, Adam's fascination with Fascinating, and an important weather update from Florida.

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Links:

• Dax on X about Ion
• SST
• Terraform by HashiCorp
• Pulumi
• Fey
• Fascinating (@fasc1nate)

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Did I put you in a weird spot?
• (00:31) - Florida weather update
• (03:22) - What is SST doing with Ion?
• (08:08) - Getting distracted by the internet because of cloud formation
• (10:28) - Using NextJS construct + Ion?
• (11:24) - Being busy... on Twitter
• (12:14) - Dax slamming the triangle company
• (18:01) - Native vs SPA
• (28:40) - Fascinating on Twitter
• (34:51) - DHH and one time payments

Dax convinces Adam that the Kombucha he bought is exclusive so Adam is forced to buy it.

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Links:

• Radiate Kombucha

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Kombucha influencers

Moving tech Twitter to LinkedIn, cleaning up Contacts.app, the hype and dread cycle of AI announcements, why Adam hates weekends, why are LLMs so dorky, and the idea of creating a 100% AI Tomorrow podcast.

Oh and we're taking a break until January, 2024!

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Links:

• Adam Elmore on LinkedIn
• Dax ⠀ on LinkedIn
• Mercury | Banking for Startups
• Show HN: The HN Recap – AI generated daily HN podcast

Topics discussed:

• (00:32) - Tech Twitter moving to LinkedIn
• (08:37) - Wesley Faulkner and LinkedIn
• (14:24) - Have you cleaned up your Contacts app lately?
• (15:48) - Credit card strategies
• (24:08) - The dread over AI
• (33:15) - Diversity of life
• (34:43) - We're taking a break
• (37:43) - Spending the holidays on LinkedIn
• (42:53) - Adam hates weekends
• (47:07) - Losing weight and being hungry
• (48:44) - Why are LLMs so verbose and dorky?
• (55:07) - Creating 100% AI content
• (01:01:06) - Goodbye until Tomorrow

Adam's wondering why people hate Aurora Serverless? What's happening with AWS rumors and Preinvent / Reinvent? Dax thinks Pulumi is the best infrastructure as code tool. And Adam wonders if he can stop being a jerk on Twitter.

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Links:

• Features • GitHub Actions
• Using Aurora Serverless v2 - Amazon Aurora
• Let’s Encrypt
• Low-Latency Content Delivery Network (CDN) - Amazon CloudFront - Amazon Web Services
• RedwoodJS: The App Framework for Startups | RedwoodJS.com
• AdonisJS - A fully featured web framework for Node.js
• Pulumi - Universal Infrastructure as Code | Pulumi
• Terraform by HashiCorp
• Open Source Development Framework - AWS Cloud Development Kit - AWS

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - What's in a name?
• (00:30) - Dax makes his own LUTS and Adam's still cold
• (03:26) - Why do people hate Aurora Serverless V2
• (10:31) - Preinvent, Reinvent, and AWS Rumors
• (12:26) - Whats up with Open Search Serverless?
• (29:18) - Lowering the bar for developer experience
• (39:43) - SST update tease
• (41:07) - Issues with Amazon CDK
• (42:39) - Why is Pulumi is the best infastructure as code tool?
• (51:00) - Do you lose the ability to roll back safely?
• (52:37) - Being a jerk on Twitter
• (59:02) - Hitting a milestone and stopping
• (01:00:51) - Is AI really the next big thing?

Serverless is going paid and Dax has thoughts, Adam really wants his GitHub username, why can you say illegal things on social media, Dax VC'd and learned a new word, Adam's obsessed with air purifiers, how can we Benjamin Button ourselves, and Adam is going to teach a AWS course.

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Links:

• Shop Oura Ring
• WHOOP | Unlock Your Potential
• Serverless: Zero-Friction Serverless Apps On AWS Lambda & Beyond.
• SST
• Terraform by HashiCorp
• Replicache
• solidjs.com
• Tailwind CSS - Rapidly build modern websites without ever leaving your HTML.
• Joel Hooks

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Nice
• (00:33) - Is Adam the only one staring at the sun?
• (06:42) - Serverless is a paid thing now
• (17:56) - Is open source sustainability an actual issue?
• (21:03) - Cold plunge in fall weather
• (23:10) - Adam's GitHub username
• (28:16) - Why can you say illegal things on social media?
• (32:29) - Are lawyers losing their job to ChatGPT?
• (34:02) - Dax VC'd
• (40:36) - Dax learns a new VC word
• (41:43) - Being obsessed with air purifiers
• (44:41) - Doing inside tracker
• (46:22) - Getting old and still working
• (48:36) - Adam is going to teach

Dax and Adam read through Kent C. Dodds' article on Why He Won't Use Next.js and give their thoughts on the web platform, independence, Next.js eating React, collaboration, experimenting on users, too much magic, and complexity.

Oh and something's off with the X.

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Links:

• Linear – A better way to build products
• Dax on X: “the rest of us have literally no hope” / X
• Next.js Conf
• How About Tomorrow? | Next.js Conf 2022 Recap
• Why I Won’t Use Next.js | Epic Web Dev by Kent C. Dodds
• solidjs.com
• Index - OpenNext
• Scale & Ship Faster with a Composable Web Architecture | Netlify
• Remix - Build Better Websites
• Refactoring UI
• Custom fonts without compromise using Next.js and next/font – Vercel
• MooTools
• Domainr · fast, free, domain name search, short URLs, new gTLDs, whois
• Buy a domain name - Register cheap domain names from $0.99 - Namecheap
• Live streaming with Riverside

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Meeting Trash
• (00:30) - X feels off
• (03:28) - Design, easter eggs, and clothing style
• (08:05) - NextJS Conf is our origin story
• (10:07) - Why Kent C Dodds Won't Use Next.js
• (16:41) - Whatever you use is probably fine
• (19:21) - The web platform
• (24:10) - Independance
• (34:10) - NextJS is eating React
• (36:04) - Collaboration has gone down
• (40:22) - Experimenting on my users
• (45:16) - Too much magic
• (52:45) - Complexity
• (55:39) - Stability
• (56:34) - Capabilities
• (58:05) - Twitter's logo as a unicode character
• (01:01:40) - Back to the conclusion
• (01:05:07) - Tech conference fomo
• (01:08:00) - Is Dax an F1 fan?

Adam went to TwitchCon, apparently people still smoke, dogs are the ultimate hedonist, React taint conversations open up a whole new world, and who are we if we're not defined by our categories on Twitch livestreams?

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Links:

• TwitchCon
• Ludwig Ahgren
• AWS re:Invent 2023 | Amazon Web Services
• Ricky Gervais | If You Spoil A Cat #shorts
• trash on X: adam currently holds the title of most handsome dude in tech
• Urban Dictionary: taint
• Next.js Conf
• Clerk | Authentication and User Management
• Guillermo Rauch’s blog
• Steve Jobs | Book by Walter Isaacson | Official Publisher Page | Simon & Schuster

Topics discussed:

• (00:31) - TwitchCon was smoking
• (09:10) - Sessions as panels instead of talks
• (10:29) - What else was at TwitchCon
• (16:34) - Dogs as the ultimate hedonist
• (18:36) - React Taint
• (28:15) - Can you have enemies in tech?
• (32:51) - Are we playing a caricature in tech, or is it just the friends we make along the way?

Is Dax really not going to TwitchCon? Why hasn't video calling gotten better? Vercel makes an AI image generator mess. Are politicians really necessary? Does Florida have the worst drivers? And how is Adam so buff?

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Links:

• TwitchCon
• Age of Empires | Multiplayer Game Programming: An Overview of Networked Games
• React Miami
• Nico on X: “Part 2, it gets worse 💀💀 Apparently, @OpenDevLog was threatened by a Vercel employee because his domain name was too similar to the employee’s personal project. He threatened to get lawyers involved if the name wasn’t changed
• lil uzi perf on X: “When you think about it, politicians are an antiquated technology, really only useful back when there wasn’t instant communication so we had to send a representative” / X
• Fidel Castro
• Adam's workout body tweet
• Rogue Echo Bike V3.0

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Transitioning from the previous episode...
• (00:37) - Is Dax really sure he's not going to TwitchCon?
• (02:06) - Learning about programming in video games
• (05:45) - Will video ever not stop freezing?
• (10:48) - Being motivated to fix bugs
• (12:49) - Vercel AI image generator mess
• (18:31) - Startup Marketing advice from Dax
• (20:28) - Buying decisions influenced by bad behaviour
• (24:43) - Are our opinions in the majority or minority?
• (27:12) - Are politicians necessary?
• (35:17) - Could Adam be a politician?
• (37:20) - Getting pulled over by the police
• (44:34) - Does self driving eliminate driving tickets?
• (46:00) - Does Florida have the worst drivers?
• (49:06) - Social accountability for fitness

Dax woke up to a crappy situation, Adam's got a home theater problem and may have been kicked off the committee of entertainment, and Dax talks about how and what Bumi might pivot to become, and the lessons they've learned from the experience.

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Links:

• Moonbow
• Bumi (@withbumi) / X
• Rocket Money
• Linear – A better way to build products
• Screens - Stewart
• JBL SCL-6 Speakers
• Letterboxd • Social film discovery.
• The Banshees of Inisherin (2022)

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - This is Me Trying
• (01:02) - Waking up to a lovely smell
• (05:11) - Sleeping as a superpower
• (07:00) - Learning new natural phenomenons
• (10:27) - Learning from Bumi about building for others
• (18:14) - What Bumi could become instead
• (27:16) - Serverless apps on maintenance mode
• (34:27) - Home theater woes
• (41:03) - Being moved to the committee of entertainment
• (48:50) - Deciding on what movies to watch

Adam streamed! Live! On Twitch! What's happened to Slack? Cloud based vs on prem servers. How do you define a hike? Dax contemplates building a Hackintosh. Getting addicted to the right things, and differentiating between personal success and wanting others to fail.

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Links:

• Learn With Jason / LWJ on Twitch
• Slack bought by Salesforce
• @AdamNotDev on Instagram
• Midjourney

Topics discussed:

• (00:36) - Adam streamed
• (00:50) - Can you hear me now?
• (02:38) - Slacking on Slack
• (07:07) - Working where there's an IT department
• (11:10) - Will Adam ever build something in PHP?
• (12:08) - iPhone Log Mode
• (13:56) - Will Adam stream more?
• (16:05) - Forgetting how to write
• (19:47) - What do you want to be when you grow up?
• (23:58) - Do you hike?
• (29:30) - Loving to program again
• (32:05) - Hackintosh
• (34:51) - Being addicted to the right things
• (41:04) - Wanting to do well vs wanting someone else to lose
• (44:22) - Designing logos in Midjourney
• (53:33) - Are we living in the golden age of humanity?
• (54:45) - Cold plunges are cold

Adam and Dax discuss the importance of seasonal weather awareness and the concept of farm-to-table food. They delve into the idea of luxury goods debate between buying new or used items. Breakfast routines are talked about, followed by a lighthearted discussion on bananas. They also mention a Dev Rel 2.0 course, and contemplate the desire to not be retired while still wanting to be retired. The conversation shifts to homes, apartments, and mortgages, before concluding with a discussion on body weight and weightlifting. The episode ends with Adam and Dax pondering the possibility of streaming again in the future.

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Links:

• 6 Seasons
• $100 worth of groceries
• Whirlypop
• Theo's devrel course
• Rucksacks

Topics discussed:

• (00:29) - Seasonal weather awareness and farm to table food
• (06:39) - What do we grow?
• (09:50) - Luxury goods that are good
• (12:06) - Buying new vs buying used
• (14:14) - Getting into popcorn
• (18:49) - Breakfast routines
• (23:41) - Do you like bananas?
• (26:41) - Being a tech contrarian
• (30:22) - Jujitsu eyes
• (33:12) - Dev Rel 2.0 course
• (40:14) - Not wanting to be retired but wanting to be retired
• (44:55) - Homes, apartments, and mortgages
• (48:02) - Body weight and weight lifting
• (56:00) - Are we going to stream again?

In this episode Adam and Dax talk about the contrasting vibes between the real world and the computer world, the ethics of recording everything one sees or hears, followed by an exploration of the dynamics of finding things in a relationship. Cloudflare and AWS are mentioned, leading to a conversation about the perceived foolishness of being an investor and the potential future of being a venture capitalist. Climate change is checked in on, followed by a personal update on Adam's experience with shingles. They reflect on the impact of the COVID era, before pondering the naming of cities and towns with original names. The episode concludes with a contemplation on the simplicity and beauty of a dirt road.

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Links:

• Rewind
• 📺 Introducing Rewind Pendant
• Black Mirror
• Twitch Con

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Hunter gathering
• (00:30) - Rewind
• (05:01) - Real world vs computer world clean vibes
• (07:05) - The ethics of recording everything you see or hear
• (13:19) - Dynamics of finding things in a relationship
• (17:06) - Cloudflare + AWS
• (22:25) - Being an investor is the dumbest job
• (27:14) - Being a VC is in Adam's future
• (29:34) - Checking in on climate change
• (37:54) - Adam's shingles
• (40:54) - The COVID era
• (47:20) - Naming cities and towns with original names
• (50:35) - The simplicity of a dirt road

Melkey's back to talk with Dax about routine changes, getting COVID, finding balance between life and work, how SST makes money, could SST get bought, determining if you can work at a startup, the fact that nobody cares about your work, comparison as the thief of joy, and success being up to you.

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Links:

• ThePrimeagen
• Trash
• SST
• AWS CDK
• Tomorrow E43: An Interview with Tuomas Artman of Linear
• Post Malone
• Drizzle

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - npm downloads as a emotional chart
• (00:43) - Capturing all of it
• (01:09) - Routine changes and COVID
• (05:37) - Focusing on breaking even
• (07:44) - Finding balance between work and family
• (12:46) - How does SST make money?
• (18:54) - Why would you trust a smaller company instead of the incumbent?
• (22:52) - Could SST be bought by AWS?
• (26:56) - Determining if you can work wiith a startup
• (32:53) - Startups can make or break relationships
• (36:01) - Wanting to work at your best and be pushed
• (38:18) - Nobody cares about your work
• (42:42) - Comparison as inspiration or frustration
• (52:10) - Success is up to you
• (53:57) - Setting goals with intentionality

In this episode: Adam gets a cold, living in a character house versus the suburbs, the challenge of returning to something you had to give up, reasons behind Dax's love for cats, and where Cloudflare announcements sit alongside AWS, anthropic, and bedrock. Is it ok to root for Elon Musk's failure?  What's the state of politics in the US? The episode concludes with an examination of the enshittification of tech, and the idea of retiring to tweet.

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Links:

• Cloudflare + AI
• AWS Bedrock
• The Enshittification of Tech
• Nintendo

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Phoning it in
• (00:30) - Cold
• (02:08) - How long can you sleep?
• (03:32) - Living in a character house vs suburbs
• (11:00) - Getting back to something you have to stop
• (13:08) - Why does Dax have cats?
• (16:31) - Cloudflare announcements
• (22:12) - AWS, anthropic, and bedrock
• (27:29) - Rooting for Musk to fail?
• (33:04) - Where do we fit in politics?
• (42:32) - Enshittification of tech
• (50:55) - Retiring to tweet

Dax chats with Glauber Costa about his career path to this point, starting Turso, avoiding ending up in the tarpit of ideas, issues with naming the Edge, what Turso is up to, how users make life easier, and lessons learned in pricing.

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Links:

• Turso
• The Mom Test
• The Matrix
• Ooops I Did It Again

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - How do you pronounce SQL?
• (00:54) - Countries of origin
• (03:17) - Glauber's career path to this point
• (08:39) - Starting over in areas you're not familair with
• (14:50) - When did you start Turso?
• (19:42) - Ending up with a tarpit idea
• (24:12) - The issue with Edge run times
• (28:23) - What Turso launched this week
• (35:22) - What types of applications are most common?
• (41:55) - It gets easier with actual users
• (46:40) - Pricing lesson

Adam finds out the hard way that everyone is using morphine totally wrong, Adam and Dax debate upgrading their iPhones, Dax educates Adam on Svelte and Astro, and if Adam died who would Dax replace him with?

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Links:

• Elon Musk biography
• Steve Jobs biography
• Superhuman email
• Hey
• Jason Lengstorf / Twitch
• NextJS Conf
• Tomorrow Episode 001: NextJS Conference Recap
• Guillermo Rauch
• v0
• Svelte
• Svelte introduces Ruins
• Astro Nanostore
• Astro 3.0 blog post
• Tanstack
• Remix
• npm Trends

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Morphine thread
• (00:25) - Adam's health update
• (11:05) - Jujitsu competition update
• (13:28) - Modern medicine
• (20:04) - Elon Musk & Steve Jobs biography
• (21:49) - iPhone upgrade?
• (24:22) - Remembering to take pictures
• (26:33) - Controlling (or not) your inbox
• (30:23) - Ranking Adams on tech Twitter
• (31:22) - Bluesky and Threads
• (34:44) - v0 from Vercel
• (38:25) - The timelessness of some designs
• (41:35) - Svelte + animations
• (50:19) - Global state in an app without a framework
• (55:07) - What's up with solid start?
• (01:03:55) - If Adam had died, who would Dax replace him with?
• (01:06:49) - Picking up new fears

Is it better to burn out or to fade away as a content creator—or is Adam just a quiet quitter? Our thoughts on Bun's 1.0, bundling, pnpm, rebooting JavaScript, and is Vercel the dark side in the great Star Wars analogy of our dev world?

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Links:

• Bun 1.0
• Prettier
• Rome
• Rspack
• Vite
• Vercel
• Cloudflare
• Fly

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Where's Adam?
• (00:28) - What do we want out of creating content?
• (08:57) - Bun 1.0
• (19:16) - What about bundling?
• (24:30) - What about pnpm?
• (27:25) - Can JavaScript restart?
• (28:59) - Who's going to fix formating?
• (30:50) - What about TurboPack?
• (37:37) - What's the Vite business model?
• (40:14) - Vercel as the Dark Side

The fun of a DHH rant and the ensuing storm of reactions, planning vacations, how SST is looking at enterprise sales, TwitchCon plans, enjoying fall weather and tornado fears, and Adam watches a bad movie and doesn't enjoy it.

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Links:

• DHH on TypeScript
• TwitchCon
• Twitch Apps
• React Miami / @ReactMiamiConf
• Joplin 2011 tornado
• Happiness For Beginners
• Michael Pollan on Caffeine

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - It's the year of audio on Linux on the desktop
• (00:33) - DHH rants on TypeScript and revives Twitter
• (10:59) - Vacation + family plans
• (16:29) - SST and Enterprise sales
• (22:27) - Twitter Spaces, Twitch, and TwitchCon
• (26:10) - React Miami?
• (30:39) - Fall weather
• (33:29) - Tornado chasers and preppers
• (38:36) - Adam watched a movie
• (43:26) - Coming to terms with being a tech bro

Adam gives up his health insurance and gets injured shortly after: coincidence? Are we tech bros just because we care about things? Is Dax going to upgrade to Astro v3? And Dax introduces Adam to the dark web.

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Links:

• Adam's tweets about coffee
• Astro
• Tor
• Mark Rober YouTube
• If you drink coffee...

Topics discussed:

• (00:24) - Adam got choked
• (04:55) - The health insurance racket
• (12:05) - Are we tech bros?
• (21:54) - Upgrading to Astro v3
• (27:07) - Do we even use the web anymore?
• (29:40) - What are developers actually working on?
• (32:06) - How's the SST Console?
• (34:48) - Going down to the dark web
• (47:23) - Home security cameras
• (54:11) - Do you stand or sit in the bathroom?

Is unifying messaging apps a tarpit problem? And what can be done about the iMessage moat? Adam wants to try a temporary tattoo, but what should he get? Dax lets listeners in on his tweeting secret, and Astro's launch week just happened so why not talk open source economics!

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Links:

• Texts.com
• AirMessage
• Astro Launch Week
• Starlight
• Terriform

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Hi. It's Adam. Adam's the problem. It's Adam.
• (00:29) - Is unifying messaging apps a tarpit problem?
• (07:02) - The iMessage moat
• (09:17) - Learning new technology as you get older
• (14:36) - Do you tattoo?
• (19:59) - How would you handle losing someone close to you?
• (21:15) - What are our personality test results?
• (24:29) - Dax's tweet schedule
• (26:40) - Cul-de-sac facts
• (30:51) - Astro v3 Launch Week
• (33:19) - Open source economics
• (40:16) - Hashicorp follow up
• (44:35) - Adam's always ready to record
• (46:31) - Adam's tattoo plan
• (51:46) - America has three great cities...

Does writing long tweets help you game the algorithm? Has Dax lost faith in academic research? Has Adam unlocked the secret to good knee health by walking backwards? Has Terraform licensing changes ruined open source? Has AI destroyed Google search? Has radiation destroyed steel? These are a lot of questions that definitely get answered in this episode.

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Links:

• One Sec
• Atomic Habits
• Wim Hof breathing
• HasiCorp Licensing Changes
• Docker Desktop

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Adam loves the sound of his own voice
• (00:27) - OBS and Twitter Live
• (01:23) - Writing long tweets
• (08:06) - Life hacking with Adam and Allan
• (09:27) - Dax lost faith in academic research
• (14:06) - Breathing and meditiation
• (16:05) - Walking backwards update
• (21:20) - Terraform licensing changes
• (32:24) - Google AI search results
• (35:19) - Radiated steel thoughts
• (43:02) - Kombucha

How do we shop for things in 2023? And why do we love buying things? Adam confuses sous vide for a bidet and yet somehow doesn't get embarrassed in public. Do you get embarrassed in public? Dax explains living in NYC, while Adam debates gambling in Vegas. And tech returns with LLMs and AWS Bedrock.

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Links:

• IONIQ 5
• Home Assistant
• Sleep Like the Dead
• Sous vide
• Mark Sisson
• The Kneesovertoesguy
• AWS Bedrock
• Clownfish

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Being muted on Twitter
• (00:47) - Live on Twitter
• (03:58) - Using Home Assistant
• (08:26) - How do you shop for things?
• (11:02) - Why do we love buying things?
• (13:43) - Sous vide
• (16:20) - Adam doesn't feel 37
• (23:51) - Dealing with knee issues
• (26:08) - Do you get embarrassed in public?
• (29:38) - Living in New York
• (33:38) - Should Adam gamble in Vegas?
• (38:36) - LLM and AWS Bedrock

Dax and AJ Stuyvenberg talk about speed running hobbies, how dangerous skydiving is, working remote vs in office, the Trader Joe's model of queuing theory, being bad at something before you can be ok, and what keeps us going years into our work.

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Links:

• Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning
• AWS re:Invent 2023
• What I learned from Lego League
• DynamoDB
• Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
• An Interview with Tuomas Artman of Linear

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Adam's speedrun
• (00:26) - Lights, mics, and cigars
• (02:19) - AJ's hobbies
• (04:25) - How dangerous is skydiving?
• (11:26) - How is Adam speedrunning through AJ's hobbies?
• (15:17) - Working remote vs office
• (18:51) - What's AJ's work history?
• (32:45) - Trader Joe's Model of Queueing Theory
• (38:18) - Amazon S3's trick
• (43:09) - Being bad at something before you can be ok at something
• (46:31) - Three levels of fun theory
• (57:23) - What keeps you going?
• (01:09:15) - The most important thing to do to be successful is...

What is SST learning now that they have users? There's a lot of talk about Tailwind in this episode and Dax hates every minute of it. Are you going to TwitchCon 2023? Should Adam have vegan donuts at TwitchCon? And please shut up about Tailwind.

This is the first episode with an encore. It may also be the last episode with an encore.

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Links:

• Tailwind
• Radix
• TwitchCon
• React Miami 2023
• SST
• PlanetScale
• Uber Eats
• Slice Pizza Delivery

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Dax wants to know what you think about Tailwind
• (00:32) - Food and energy level updates
• (01:58) - Getting a massage thoughts
• (03:28) - How About Old Man Podcast
• (05:53) - How long have we been programming?
• (07:03) - Dax is Twitch partnered
• (08:21) - Can you be neutral about Tailwind?
• (14:34) - Who's not going to TwitchCon?
• (21:34) - SST has users!
• (27:20) - What's the outlook for startups in the post free money environment?
• (30:21) - Uber and food delivery
• (36:45) - Just shutup about Tailwind already
• (40:36) - Adam needs to pee and blow
• (42:27) - The encore

Dax needs your help finding a new hat, talking about Dax's controversial tweet on remote work, is most work fake, and why aren't medical records shared between doctors? Next up is episode 50!

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Links:

• Dax's tweet on working remote
• Basecamp's Remote
• Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - This is all fake
• (00:34) - What's in Dax's ear?
• (03:15) - Help Dax find a new hat
• (06:33) - Talking remote and Dax's tweet
• (12:51) - It's easy to have a belief when you don't have to pay any price for it
• (18:13) - Remote companies need someone super motivated
• (19:43) - Is most work fake?
• (23:10) - Can companies get big without being literally big?
• (26:37) - It feels like we never make progress
• (30:06) - Getting a good teacher in school
• (34:26) - Why aren't medical records shared?
• (36:53) - Motivated for episode 50

The one where Dax and Adam manage to piss off Marvel fans, Star Wars fans, Hayden Christensen fans, metric system fans, the rest of the world - but also talk about Rust, Go, and C#.

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Links:

• Rest in peace Bram Moolenaar, author of Vim and hero of many developers
• Neovim
• Christopher Nolan films
• Oppenheimer
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
• TMNT (2007)
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
• Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
• Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
• Star Wars films list
• Hayden Christensen
• Go
• Rust
• Rust Foundation so sorry for scaring the C out of you with trademark crackdown talk
• C#
• SST on GitHub

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Pee and pivot
• (00:29) - How did Bram create Vim?
• (05:02) - Oppenheimer
• (08:09) - TMNT, Marvel, and Star Wars
• (15:49) - Disney, Apple, and Sports
• (17:35) - Metric vs imperial
• (21:10) - Are Go and Rust comparable languages?
• (27:04) - What is the best language to use in serverless with Lambda?
• (29:38) - Why is nobody talking about C#?
• (36:46) - Dax's knee and Adam's jujitsu update

Tomorrow has some competition and Adam's fired up (not really), why are we wired for bad things, SST and Astro API questions, and what's up with Dax's dumb challenges?

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Links:

• Mostly Technical podcast
• Is Laravel the happiest developer community on the planet?
• GitHub Issue on SST

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Stressing Adam
• (00:32) - Competition for Tomorrow
• (03:41) - Why are we wired for bad things?
• (09:15) - Being busy is good
• (09:54) - Accidentally doing things on social media
• (14:33) - Dax's dumb dumb challenges
• (21:27) - Astro and SST API situation
• (32:56) - Tomorrow community building

Adam has secrets, and wonders if it's too late for him to be anonymous. The LK-99 dream might be over? Despite Adam's jujitsu injuries, they pale in comparison to Dax's skim board injury. Flight pricing is frustrating, and comparing spring in NYC vs the Ozarks.

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Links:

• LK99 dream is over?
• Making a toaster from scratch
• How to With John Wilson

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Talking Xirty
• (00:31) - Not talking about the things
• (01:30) - This is as official as it's going to get
• (03:14) - Appreciation for material science
• (08:40) - Taking a week off in Lake Tahoe
• (10:37) - Dax beach board update
• (16:59) - Jujitsu update
• (21:16) - Is it too late to become anonymous?
• (22:27) - Is it Twitter or X?
• (27:18) - Dax flight rants
• (31:14) - Getting hit by lightning
• (37:05) - Building the tallest building
• (39:57) - Comparing spring in NYC vs the Ozarks
• (42:40) - ...and then there's Florida
• (43:58) - What do people do with pumpkins?

Adam's got Astro + SST + Lambda on the brain, and Dax has too many meetings with humans. But humans have had a breakthrough in superconductor tech, so maybe humans aren't the worst? 

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Links:

• Astro
• AWS Lambda Response Streaming
• Astro Hybrid Rendering
• CloudFront routing
• Vercel
• Elizabeth Holmes
• Superconductor breakthrough
• Tony Hawk rides a hoverboard
• Malthusianism
• Amazon is working on LLM stuff too
• Fine-tune LLaMA 2 on Amazon SageMaker

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - The links don't change
• (00:56) - Astro, Lambda, and SST thoughts
• (04:46) - Route splitting explained
• (13:16) - How are meetings still happening?
• (16:56) - Which team is Dax's favorite?
• (20:31) - Is it difficult for a product company to contribute in an open source way?
• (24:27) - Is it difficult to manage an open source community?
• (25:49) - Is nepotism a bad word?
• (29:54) - Do people have free will?
• (34:50) - Superconductor Breakthrough
• (43:39) - Humans hate ourselves a lot
• (47:31) - Material advancements
• (50:35) - Amazon's 2 pizza team is ahead of all of this

Why is everyone wrong about everything - especially with Adam? Does an AI breakthrough mean utopia? Are we using Threads to post about X'ing Twitter? Dax has a new hobby, and Adam updates on his jujitsu hobby. Dax has some theories on Vercel and some SST Console roadmap updates.

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Links:

• Why does Musk want an everything X app?
• Vercel
• Netlify
• SST Console
• Drizzle
• Astro

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - The leaf blower rule of podcast recording
• (00:38) - Why is everyone so wrong?
• (03:08) - AI breakthrough means utopia
• (08:13) - X Twitter
• (13:46) - Are we still Threading?
• (18:48) - You have to consume something to bring value to people
• (20:51) - Dax getting into a new hobby
• (25:17) - Jujitsu follow up
• (28:43) - Does putting in the time work?
• (33:22) - Theories on Vercel
• (38:50) - The SST Console roadmap

Dax has a conversation with Tuomas Artman of Linear about their mindset when starting Linear, how they developed the Linear Method, was being fast important from the beginning, what the difference is between collaboration and syncing, and what is Linear's tech stack.

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Links:

• Linear
• Superhuman
• Replicache
• GraphQL

Topics discussed:

• (00:21) - Introducing Tuomas Artman & Linear
• (01:38) - What was the mindset when you started Linear?
• (09:41) - Was the high level of polish intentional from the beginning?
• (13:59) - How did you develop the Linear Method?
• (17:46) - How does designing with big companies compare to a smaller company?
• (19:50) - Was being a fast app important from the beginning?
• (24:15) - Linear syncs a large portion of your data locally
• (29:20) - Defining a finite set of data to work with
• (34:16) - What's the difference between collaboration and syncing?
• (40:30) - Have you seen more companies take this design approach?
• (45:04) - What is Linear's tech stack?

Dax interviews Liz about her journey into tech and startups, how Dax and Liz met, working in a health startup in the pandemic, deciding to do your own thing, almost quitting, expectations of what it's like to be a founder, and dealing with potential embarrassment.

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Links:

• Whimsical
• Bumi
• Paul Graham: How to Not Die
• SST
• SST on YouTube

Topics discussed:

• (00:37) - Introducing Liz
• (03:19) - What did you think were options when you were growing up?
• (05:59) - Was it difficult to get into tech as a non-engineer?
• (08:15) - How Dax and Liz met
• (14:28) - Liz's master plan
• (17:55) - Working in a health startup in the pandemic
• (20:24) - Build vs buy struggle
• (24:16) - How did Liz decide to leave and start her own thing?
• (28:32) - The difference between Dax and Liz
• (31:58) - Almost quitting
• (37:01) - Expectations of what it would be like to be a founder
• (42:37) - Being surprised at how long it takes
• (48:28) - Dealing with the potential embarrassment

Adam has questions this episode: Why does Tailwind bring out the worst in people? Why don't more people just make nice fast apps like Linear? Why is Notion slow? Is sites vs apps a real debate? Is the developer experience getting better? And should Adam help Dax become the Benevolent Dictator of JavaScript that he was born to be?

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Links:

• Camlink
• Notion
• Linear
• Superhuman
• Replicache
• ESLint
• Brazilian jiu-jitsu
• Lex Fridman podcast
• Joe Rogan
• Adam.dev
• Marc Andreessen on Lex Fridman
• Ben Horowitz

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - You gotta go through Dax first
• (00:26) - Why does Tailwind bring out the worst in everyone?
• (01:55) - Cables and gear make the office vibe off
• (05:12) - Avoiding bloat like Notion
• (07:17) - Who takes care of planning and logistics in life?
• (08:16) - Talking Linear and local first
• (15:53) - Why aren't we all designing better apps?
• (21:32) - Request for startups to build
• (26:21) - Is sites vs apps a real thing?
• (29:19) - Is the developer experience getting better or more complex?
• (33:21) - Is doing the ESLint dance worth it?
• (35:30) - Dax the Benevolent Dictator
• (38:40) - Adam's a martial artist now
• (47:37) - Why are certain podcasters controversial?

Trash is here but before he arrives, Adam and Dax cover some important ground like Lotion vs Sand, drinking energy drinks, and driving until your brain shuts off. Trash joins the call and wonders about renting vs owning, if the Ozarks are real or just on Netflix, being rich adjacent in Miami, and what he's working on these days. And the there of them wonder about the state of TypeScript in 2023.

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Links:

• Tesla recalls
• 8 Mile movie
• TypeScript
• Drizzle
• PlanetScale
• Prisma
• Zod
• Reason
• OCaml
• Rebase.tv

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - OnlyFans.dev/Trash
• (00:32) - Lotion or sand?
• (02:33) - Energy dosing
• (05:39) - Driving until your brain goes numb
• (09:20) - Driving tech for safer driving
• (13:08) - Introducing Trash and their vibe
• (14:16) - Did you start online as Trash?
• (16:48) - Renting vs owning
• (21:13) - Are the Ozarks real or just on Netflix?
• (23:17) - Rich adjacent in Miami
• (25:03) - Creating content in 2023
• (30:04) - What is Trash working on?
• (37:08) - Who's helping you build this?
• (38:51) - What's the tech stack you're using?
• (44:06) - Struggles with Prisma
• (50:32) - TypeScript thoughts
• (54:34) - Why choose TypeScript in 2023?
• (01:02:30) - What happened to Rebase?
• (01:03:43) - How has developing with a community gone?
• (01:13:11) - Being aware of who's watching or listening
• (01:18:29) - Is this really hard work?

Dax trimmed his beard and Adam doesn't like it. Who looks better with an old face filter? Were there any great software designs in the 90's? And should Adam be worried about hookworms while he's touching grass to stay away from toxic positivity?

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Links:

• The longest Adam's beard has been
• Old filter Adam
• Old filter Dax
• Dax's old filter Adam
• This Australian Bartender Found an ATM Glitch and Blew $1.6 Million

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Dax stabs Adam in the back
• (00:32) - Beard length competition
• (03:53) - Getting old via filters or hair color
• (09:14) - Adam's prompt engineering rant
• (14:16) - Overconfidence in your ability
• (22:30) - Do we have great tools, but build like cavemen?
• (26:12) - History of the web
• (27:42) - What do old people do?
• (29:15) - Cholesterol facts dispusted
• (32:24) - ATM Fraud and technology decisions
• (37:22) - Is daylight savings going away?
• (40:19) - Fake names are weird
• (43:15) - Dax's hookworm theory
• (44:53) - Grounding yourself
• (49:11) - Being bummed that something doesn't happen
• (52:03) - Naming things after rich people

New format we're trying! Stick around for a conversation with Melkey at the end of the preamble with Adam and Dax who chat about meeting humans for coffee (in a totally normal, human way), Adam's Threads experience compared with Dax's, wondering if we're socially anxious, and who should interview Liz?

Then Melkey stops by to chat about life working at Twitch, his dog, when people should have kids, and whether real life friends know what any of them do.

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Links:

• Threads
• Dax on Threads
• Adam on Threads
• Twitter Blue
• How to Win Friends and Influence People
• Linear
• Carrd by AJ

Topics:

• (00:00) - Chris will know what to do with this
• (00:31) - Adam talked with a human being
• (02:02) - Meta launches Threads
• (09:51) - It's fun when everyone's doing something together
• (14:22) - The overwhelm of multiple social platforms
• (16:49) - Are we socially anxious?
• (21:38) - Reviews and guest ideas
• (22:27) - Linear and software development
• (24:10) - Should Adam interview Liz?
• (25:02) - Do you ever hate holidays?
• (27:17) - We can only work at our office
• (29:43) - Should we have been anonymous?
• (32:19) - Dealing with cross region issues
• (34:08) - Melkey's Threads feed
• (37:35) - Melkey's life stories
• (40:13) - Working at Twitch
• (43:50) - What's a day like working at Twitch?
• (46:54) - Do you use Amazon services?
• (48:32) - Honey Dew Prince of Darkness
• (51:31) - Learning about the long haired doxin
• (54:26) - Kids and tech life
• (56:13) - Do your friends know what you do?

Is Adam washed out - in comparison to Dax? Do Adam or Dax worry about data privacy these days? What should Dax do about his weird neighbor - or is he the weird neighbor? And recognizing when your tech stack isn't the source of your power.

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Links:

• Raspberry Pi
• Ubiquiti Camera
• Men in Black
• LevelsIO
• Outliers

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - Ozarks better watch out
• (00:32) - Is Adam washed out - by comparison?
• (01:30) - Do you worry about data privacy?
• (09:31) - GDPR, capitalism, Europe, and privacy triggers
• (15:50) - Dax's neighbors
• (29:01) - Adam's sauna and ice baths
• (30:48) - Data privacy clarification
• (34:13) - Being willing to change your mind vs knowing a little bit
• (36:22) - Being successful in spite of your tech stack
• (43:49) - Twitter is fun
• (51:03) - Fireworks edition

Adam and Dax are definitely not going to talk about React drama or devrel. Instead, they're sticking to questions about dinosaurs and interest rates and how they impact the economy. (The interest rates. Not so much the dinosaurs.)

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Links:

• OBS
• Riverside
• Ping.gg
• Prettier
• Astro
• VHTML
• Fly.io raises money
• Prehistoric Planet on Apple TV
• Dinosaurs reimagined
• Stripe

Topics discussed:

• (00:00) - I'm kind of a big deal around here
• (00:32) - Ping and Twitch
• (01:29) - Prettier and Astro
• (06:52) - Why Dax is bored of the React drama
• (10:16) - Adam's choose your own adventure topics
• (11:56) - Is Tech Twitter in a slump?
• (13:32) - Did they run out of things to build and moved to the server?
• (15:08) - What is HTMX?
• (16:56) - Fly's fly fundraising announcement
• (20:16) - Dinosaurs
• (29:41) - Fake Startup Simulator
• (31:36) - Do we talk about things outside of tech?
• (35:14) - The impact of fiscal policy is yet to be felt
• (40:10) - Stripe made good docs, and made a bazillion dollars

Dax and Adam put life's biggest questions to ThePrimeagen: Why does he hate ESM? How tall is he? Do people around him know he's ThePrimeagen? Why has work culture changed around feedback? Can you still squat? Can we cringe? And what is your biggest fear in life?

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Links:

• Astro
• OCaml
• Wheel of Time
• Cat's in the Cradle

Topics discussed:

• (00:33) - Introducing our special guest: Dax Rad
• (01:21) - Introducing The Primeagen
• (02:52) - Quotes from Primeagen coworker
• (05:15) - Why do you hate ESM?
• (08:01) - Height check
• (11:30) - Do people know you're ThePrimeagen?
• (14:45) - Have you noticed an industry culture change?
• (17:41) - When do you drink your preworkout?
• (19:38) - Tech business life was too easy
• (25:50) - Thinking with depth about anime
• (30:34) - Making sure you can squat
• (34:17) - What are you learning about in tech these days?
• (40:34) - ThePrimeagen doesn't do cringe
• (44:42) - Adam's biggest fear in life
• (47:05) - ThePrimeagen's biggest fear
• (55:43) - Do you listen to your own podcast?

José Valim, the creator of Elixir, joins Dax to tell us the story behind how it was born and what makes it great.

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• (00:00) - Intro
• (00:30) - José gets into streaming
• (02:34) - Dax's experience with Elixir
• (04:08) - The beginning
• (12:25) - Functional Programming
• (26:00) - Modules and functions
• (33:12) - Standard Library
• (42:19) - Should tooling be built in?
• (48:52) - Elixir ecosystem
• (01:00:19) - Patterns
• (01:02:02) - Typesafety
• (01:13:03) - Takeaway

How does Dax get his news? Should Adam start reading Hacker News? And Adam and Dax talk religion, spirituality, The Last Airbender, and how kids impact your mortality.

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Links:

• THE FEYNMAN SERIES - Beauty
• Richard Feynman’s Love Letter to His Wife Sixteen Months After Her Death
• Esther Perel - Your Guide to Relational Intelligence

Topics Discussed:

• (00:00) - Next up: religion!
• (00:40) - Does Dax consume the news?
• (08:17) - Dax's problem with Hacker News
• (11:59) - Complex vs complicated
• (15:44) - What about religon?
• (24:21) - Adam's going to say some things
• (30:52) - The Last Airbender
• (33:35) - Where do you land on spirtuality?
• (38:15) - Do you ever think about why?
• (43:16) - Mortality and kids

Adam & Dax discuss a lot of things; arguably too many things. Among those things: the story of Elixir, what we do when life gets too easy, game dev dreams, dev conferences, bridge collapses, and monotony.

• (00:27) - Talking to people on Twitch
• (01:34) - The story of Elixr
• (03:54) - Adam has adjusted
• (06:52) - Is life too easy?
• (08:49) - Dax's rich person goals?
• (11:35) - Adam's game dream
• (20:28) - Dax Theft Auto
• (24:36) - Adam's rich person goals
• (27:13) - Working + partners + hobbies
• (30:29) - Dev Conferences
• (35:03) - Bridges collapsing and Miami flooding
• (37:18) - Dax's head floating in space
• (46:18) - Monotony

Adam & Dax discuss lawns, weed—all the forms of grass, really. They also dip into some political topics, so brace yourself.

• (00:26) - What's the fork foot rule?
• (01:08) - Adam felt an emotion
• (04:04) - Supplementing recommendations
• (12:24) - Melting down for the views
• (13:40) - Twitter Circles
• (15:23) - Society sucks and is dumb: Grass edition
• (24:34) - Can you be yourself?
• (27:03) - Society and the norms around family and parenting
• (35:58) - Getting polarized or being measured
• (37:11) - Why not talk about immigration?
• (45:29) - Does USA do too much in the world?
• (52:07) - Adam wants to enter his villian era

Adam & Dax discuss what media they consume for entertainment, among other things.

• (00:31) - I'm Kiwi
• (02:39) - Lärabars and Jared Leto
• (05:53) - Adam learns something shocking about Dax
• (07:48) - What does Dax watch?
• (10:26) - What is the draw of anime?
• (14:29) - Our movie diet
• (18:59) - Love you, bye
• (19:45) - Uh oh. People.
• (22:26) - Cerebral movies
• (25:30) - Miami Heat sads
• (26:24) - Dax's electric longboard
• (31:41) - Adam's Reddit brain fart

Adam & Dax discuss using Linux and Neovim, being vegan, and other annoying personality traits they share.

• (00:00) - Coward
• (00:00) - Timestamp: 158760000
• (00:27) - Stream Deck thoughts
• (01:39) - Linux and Neovim
• (10:09) - JavaScript doesn't suck, you suck
• (16:08) - Developer education and courses
• (22:44) - Having too many options
• (31:51) - Why do we make more money as we get older?

Adam & Dax discuss the recent Twitch developments and the challenges with running a live streaming service. They also talk about reading books and living forever.

• (00:36) - AWS.fm
• (01:34) - Topless Twitter photos
• (03:06) - Gym thoughts
• (06:19) - Twitch's unforced error
• (10:50) - Go lower down the stack
• (12:37) - Nothing lasts forever
• (14:09) - Dax has read 10 books
• (22:06) - Would you live forever?
• (24:50) - Reddit API pricing

Adam & Dax discuss the realities of tech conferences as well as Apple's Vision Pro headset.

• (00:00) - But AI, Dax?
• (00:31) - Low energy vs depressed?
• (01:58) - Post conference thoughts
• (03:51) - Dax's theory on tech conferences
• (11:46) - Experience brings the ability to relax
• (12:49) - Apple Vision Pro thoughts
• (27:05) - Would you want to develop for it?
• (28:14) - A vision for AR in society

Adam & Dax spend way too much time discussing sun exposure, then dive into local-first patterns with Replicache and more.

• (00:37) - Comparing sun burns
• (05:14) - Replicache
• (09:00) - Linear is an example of local first app
• (09:42) - What UX wins do you get using Replicache?
• (13:16) - What is it like to write code?
• (16:34) - SPA vs not a SPA
• (19:06) - Why isn't Replicache more popular?

Adam & Dax discuss dogs, Sam Altman's congressional hearing (that neither of them watched), the current state of the venture capital markets, and more.

• (00:00) - Ruff start
• (00:33) - Is Adam a dog person?
• (01:55) - Adam's dog story
• (04:43) - Dax's dog story
• (07:11) - Sam Altman's congressional hearing
• (09:14) - Why Y Combinator?
• (11:59) - Is VC drying up?
• (16:31) - How could they regulate AI?
• (21:38) - Could the US get to civil war?

Adam & Dax discuss their Twitter usage and when it's ok to rewrite an app completely.

• (00:00) - 20,000 vs 10,000
• (00:34) - Why is Adam twice as important as Dax?
• (02:11) - Why Dax had to stop using Twitter
• (06:16) - Imposing a personal character limit
• (07:48) - How much time do you spend looking at a tweet?
• (08:33) - What is Adam working on these days?
• (12:13) - How do you roll out a new version of the app?
• (13:47) - To rewrite or not rewrite
• (16:51) - Stale water revalidate

Adam & Dax discuss their upcoming vacations, alcohol & coffee, social media platforms, Dax becoming an Apple fanboy, and why nobody has invented the Jetsons shower.

• (00:00) - Dax + Apple = 💜
• (00:26) - Who's the online jerk here?
• (02:37) - Vacation time
• (05:53) - Drinking thoughts
• (08:20) - What about coffee?
• (10:36) - What dopamine hits are you in to?
• (13:04) - If you're just working, are you missing out?
• (17:00) - If you could pick one social media home, what would you pick?
• (22:30) - Dax buys an iPhone
• (26:08) - Adam's Jetson's shower thoughts

Adam & Dax discuss how each generation views friendship, how SST finally cracked open source marketing, and some serverless topics.

• (00:00) - Cold open
• (00:28) - Making YouTube videos is hard
• (03:03) - Age gets blurry online
• (05:06) - Friends
• (10:01) - SST updates
• (15:19) - SST update #2
• (17:38) - Creating a Lambda warmer

Adam & Dax discuss how PHP & Laravel are taking over the narrative.

• (00:33) - That sounds like something a scammer would say
• (02:50) - Dax has read all the Laravel docs
• (04:33) - What is the performance story?
• (06:40) - What about type safety and diversity?
• (08:44) - Helping build a thumbnail generator
• (12:37) - How well did Dax's algorithm work?
• (14:27) - Is serverless perfect for indie hacking?
• (17:48) - Dark matter devs
• (22:18) - Do you want to do the work or just talk about the idea of it?

Adam & Dax discuss Dax's recent efforts in benchmarking Vercel against OpenNext and then bring on Aaron Francis to discuss type systems and what good hustle looks like.

• (00:00) - Cold opens are cold
• (00:27) - Benchmarking stuff
• (05:38) - Vercel's response
• (08:04) - Adam is now a Laravel developer
• (09:38) - ...or maybe Svelte?
• (11:13) - Why Laravel?
• (13:06) - Why is PHP so chill and Javascript not?
• (19:35) - What makes it difficult in Javascript?
• (22:07) - Why doesn't someone use types?
• (23:12) - Does PHP have types?
• (29:01) - The benefits of waiting
• (32:42) - Is this Aaron's first role in devrel?
• (33:38) - What is your goal in your job?
• (39:11) - Devrels for hire
• (41:28) - What's your perfect Saturday?
• (45:27) - Once more for Laravel

Adam & Dax discuss... nothing at all, really.

• (00:30) - Adam's gonna Florida
• (01:20) - Driving alone vs driving with someone
• (04:48) - Hating things that people love
• (08:16) - Adam's drawn to people who are mean to him
• (10:17) - Dax goes to relationship therapy with Adam
• (13:20) - Reclaiming the word dramatic
• (14:32) - Do you eat peanut better and jelly sandwiches?
• (18:09) - Adam's relationship with food
• (21:47) - Struggle of putting on weight
• (23:34) - Miami Only Fans Towers
• (24:25) - Adam's house update
• (27:28) - Saunas and steam rooms

Adam & Dax discuss how they got into open source and interview a surprise guest.

• (00:33) - How'd Dax get into open source?
• (05:39) - Should everything be open source?
• (08:44) - Should you get into open source to start your career?
• (14:09) - What are the downsides of getting involved in open source?
• (17:00) - Is monetizing open source projects bad?
• (22:49) - Open source helps careers in a variety of ways
• (25:05) - What was Adam's experience with open source software?
• (29:34) - What was Teej's open source journey?
• (37:22) - Did open source grow on you and change your views?

Adam & Dax discuss Vercel, the culture around it, and the pros and cons of using it.

• (00:50) - Therapy for Adam
• (01:53) - Hating something people love
• (05:26) - I can say things because people use my thing
• (07:43) - What are some of the reasons not to build everything on Vercel?
• (10:30) - Vercel pricing
• (11:44) - Understanding what you're off loading
• (16:31) - Understanding vendor priorites and challenges
• (18:25) - Support during growth
• (20:31) - Hiring React team brings more scrutiny
• (24:17) - Comparing it to Astro
• (26:07) - What is Astro's business model?
• (28:24) - Companies have cultures
• (30:30) - Be aware of the vortex you might be sucked into

Adam & Dax discuss their startup founding experiences and lessons learned.

• (00:51) - Adam's start up journey
• (02:56) - Dax's startup journey
• (07:17) - Not giving up for enough time
• (10:19) - Adam and Dax's similar startup stories
• (14:57) - At what stage in your career is a startup a logical pursuit?
• (18:01) - Is location important for your startup?
• (20:10) - How does equity dilution impact engineers?
• (24:46) - Did you cold call for sales?
• (25:57) - How should you handle employees and hiring at a startup?
• (27:43) - How do you know your product is ready for development?
• (29:56) - How do I convince my cofounder it's time to abandon?

Adam & Dax discuss more AI craziness and whether anyone will catch OpenAI.

• (00:32) - What's happened in AI since we last talked?
• (04:19) - How does AI not take jobs?
• (11:11) - What's coming after serverless?
• (12:49) - Dax explains Jersey Shore to Adam
• (14:06) - Is human intelligence going down?
• (16:49) - How do you feel about ChatGPT now?
• (20:37) - More opportunities at a different scale
• (21:41) - Web3 shifted to AI

Adam & Dax discuss their latest project: a Discord server for developers who stream programming, and those that like to watch them.

• (00:00) - Watch.dev
• (01:53) - What is Dev Streaming?
• (04:28) - Getting in to streaming
• (07:27) - It doesn't have to be your full day
• (09:07) - Find your thing
• (11:18) - Not getting as much done due to streaming
• (13:11) - Watching people code has value
• (14:45) - Are you anxious about people watching you code?
• (16:19) - Do you prepare for streaming or just go live?
• (17:47) - Learning about the tech behind streaming
• (20:40) - Having a creative outlet that's just fun

Adam & Dax discuss the SVB collapse and how the government stepped in to prevent catastrophe.

• (00:41) - What happened at Silicon Valley Bank?
• (03:09) - What could've the impact been?
• (08:13) - Why are people upset about bailing out a bank?
• (11:26) - Individual bank accounts weren't affected
• (12:44) - VC chatter
• (16:22) - Simon Wardley's Twitter thread
• (19:07) - Hearing the end of the 2008 crash
• (19:57) - How do you stay on top of things?

Adam & Dax discuss their most recent fights on Twitter and the forces that are driving increased anger on the internet.

• (00:00) - Not a fighter... but on Twitter
• (01:16) - What the conflict was about
• (03:52) - Looking for people to agree
• (08:08) - Parameters around productive conversation online
• (12:32) - Is that just the nature of Twitter?
• (16:35) - Fake Twitter fights
• (17:29) - Communities that do it well

Adam & Dax discuss signals and what the future looks like for React.

• (00:24) - What are signals?
• (02:07) - React vs Solid and signals?
• (05:35) - You think you know something, but you need to unlearn your React brain
• (07:07) - What is different?
• (10:22) - Derived state and effects
• (11:59) - Tradeoffs in choosing Solid over React
• (15:57) - Does bundle size matter?
• (17:57) - Big picture implications?
• (22:31) - Sites vs apps decision

Adam & Dax discuss their recent side project: Rebase.tv, a live game show for developers.

• (00:33) - We're making something together
• (01:57) - Making a landing page
• (05:52) - AWS issues we've had
• (08:51) - Quality over speed
• (11:22) - Drop the things that are nagging you
• (14:32) - What would you do if you didn't have a side project?
• (16:36) - Is it unique to be passionate about software development?
• (19:30) - Where does software development land outside of developers?
• (22:45) - Rebase.tv

Adam & Dax discuss the recent tsunami of AI advancements. Also, Adam might be an AI bro.

• (00:35) - Adam's AI hype
• (03:36) - AI tools are available to non-experts now
• (07:05) - Is it stealing from artists?
• (10:18) - What AI tools are you using?
• (14:12) - Astro's langchain for docs
• (16:53) - When is something AI?
• (21:47) - AI music generation
• (23:46) - Can we automate the bad jobs?
• (30:00) - Is there hope?

Adam & Dax discuss the release of SST v2.

• (00:01) - SST 2 is out
• (01:05) - Was there any doubt in what you were building?
• (05:58) - What's new in SST?
• (08:17) - Adam's experience with SST
• (13:00) - Who's building on SST?
• (17:33) - Deploy Next.js into an AWS account
• (23:38) - Podcast hibernation