32: I would reestablish the RULE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW: Gillian Burke (Xmas 2024)

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As 2024 draws to a close, If I Ruled the World flips the script. Producer Sam takes the reins, interviewing Gillian! Together, they reflect on a groundbreaking year of system-change conversations. From capitalism’s unraveling to the wisdom of nature and indigenous perspectives, Gillian shares her biggest takeaways, lessons learned, and hopes for the future.

And the moment you’ve all been waiting for… Gillian reveals what she would do if she ruled the world and why she believes re-establishing the global rule of law and rethinking efficiency are key to building a more just and sustainable future.

Key Moments:

The Year in Review

Gillian shares her top highlights, including insights from Simeon Rose (Faith in Nature), Leah Penniman (Soul Fire Farm), and Cory Doctorow

Penny Drop Moments

Lessons from our range of guests this year on centering nature in decision-making, challenging late-stage capitalism, and understanding indigenous perspectives.

System Change & the Rule of Law

Gillian’s manifesto for re-establishing the rule of international law, inspired by Jojo Mehta (Stop Ecocide International) and lessons from Gaza and the global stage.

Efficiency vs. Resilience

Why inefficiency, modelled by nature’s beaver dams, could hold the key to a more sustainable and adaptable future.

A Vision for 2025

Gillian’s plans for the future of the podcast, the global system, and her reflections on why truth and equity must lead the charge.

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Mentions & Resources

• Carbon Dividends
• Seth Godin - This is Strategy
• The Shock Doctrine - Naomi Klein
• The Social Dilemma (Netflix)

What would you do if you ruled the world?

If you have any insights or feedback on today’s episode or you have an idea for how the world could be a better place, drop me an email on [email protected]

A final thank you to our wonderful sponsors Triodos Bank UK for their generous support in making this show possible.

Credits:

Host: Gillian Burke

Production Company: Soundquake

Producer: Sam Hamilton-Turner

Editing: Jake-Lee Savage