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IE181 Dr. Zach Bush: on Death, Dying, and Rebirth: Secrets to Graceful Life Transitions (Hospice, Death's Mysteries, and Rebirth)

55 min • 11 juli 2021

In this week’s episode, Amrit interviews Dr. Zach Bush, a triple board-certified physician in internal medicine, endocrinology and metabolism, and hospice care. Dr. Bush is an internationally recognized educator and thought leader on the microbiome as it relates to health, disease, and food systems and is the founder and director of The M Clinic, an integrative health center in Virginia, and founder Seraphic Group and the non-profit Farmer’s Footprint, both created to develop root-cause solutions for human and ecological health.


Amrit and Dr. Zach dive deep into the human experience of life and death, three births and the importance of aligning with nature at all levels. They have a mind-blowing conversation about radical acceptance that will take you all the way to feeling completely and utterly accepted!


Dr. Zach believes there are three births. Life is an incessant course of transitions. You are born, then turn into an adolescent and finally into an adult. Each transformation provides all the physical, mental, and emotional growth you need to survive. Death is just one of the transition points. It is the movement between this existence and the next.


He is fascinated about nature and how it works. He goes way back to the origin of our own pure self; the first conception and the womb as a protected place where the embryo, with it’s own energetic centre of consciousness, can grow sheltered from the mother’s immune system, the world, and the traumas that humanity has gone through in its history. 


As soon as the child goes through the vaginal canal, the second conception and seeding takes place. The child inherits the entire microbiome of the mother. Microbiome is this vast ecosystem that is very much the soil that will nurture that life into existence. It is the foundation of human life, consciousness and health. 


The third birth is death. He talks about death in the most uplifting and beautiful way ever imagined. Death is not the end, and he learned this through his own experience way back in the ICU. In fact, this is when Dr. Zach decided to focus on nature and palliative care. He used to try to take control over life so death would not happen through technology and medicine. But, when he took the patients off life support mechanisms and let the family be with them and realized the most amazing exchanges of human intelligence and human consciousness would occur; he decided his medical approach had to change. 


We have become so separated from nature, that we see death as the end. But if you recognize it as a part of nature, it becomes a transition period between one form of existence and another. 


“Once we come to view all of life as a transition and understand we are here on Earth to transform, we can better appreciate the spiritual journey encompassing the natural processes of living and dying”


Dr. Zach shares a sad, yet beautiful and uplifting story so you can expand your thoughts about death and radical acceptance.


This is a story that happened back in the ICU. Zach brought two patients back from death. These patients didn't know each other, came from different backgrounds and had a different temper. One of them was fun and had lots of people come to visit him when he was hospitalized, the other was bitter and had just one person visit him the whole time he was in hospital. Yet both of them experienced the same feeling of absolute acceptance after death and neither of them wanted to be brought back. After death, the social guy who had always been accepted, felt even more acceptance, and the bitter guy said it was the first time he had ever been accepted.  


Death is a transformation moment and an extension that goes beyond the limits of the body we carry. The moment we step out of this shell, we discover the universe. A Universe that embraces and completely accepts us by who we are. He states every soul on this planet is enough at every single point of their existence. 


“We should surrender what we think we know if we are going to realize our full potential before we die. We need to wake up. It could get really good around here”


Furthermore they talk about the comfort in convenience of technology, the importance of farming as a collective, and his regenerative agricultural practices as a solution to the human and environmental impacts of chemicals. 


We have created and are in control of huge chemical farms which destroy soil, water systems, oceans, human and animal health, and everything on this planet. Zach believes we can transform this planet into a regenerative ecosystem as long as we work all together with mother nature. By doing this, he states farmers and consumers will witness richer soil and water, and an overflow of health. 


Dr. Zach Bush is on a mission. He wants to bring regenerative health to every living being. 


Industrial farming, chemical pesticides, the pharmaceutical industry and even errant Western medical practices have a tremendous impact on both human and planetary health. We, as consumers, are the solution. We all can do our own little bit.


This episode ends with the most touching and moving conversation. Zach shares the time he connected with an Australian aboriginal; a conversation you need to listen to, it goes beyond these written words. 


About Dr. Zach Bush:

Zach Bush MD is a physician specializing in internal medicine, endocrinology and hospice care. He is an internationally recognized educator and thought leader on the microbiome as it relates to health, disease, and food systems. 


Dr Zach founded *Seraphic Group and the nonprofit Farmer’s Footprint to develop root-cause solutions for human and ecological health. His passion for education reaches across many disciplines, including topics such as the role of soil and water ecosystems in human genomics, immunity, and gut/brain health. 


His education has highlighted the need for a radical departure from chemical farming and pharmacy, and his ongoing efforts are providing a path for consumers, farmers, and mega-industries to work together for a healthy future for people and the planet.


Tune In: 

  • Welcome Dr. Zach Bush to Inspired Evolution!: (00:00:00)
  • About three births and transitioning through life: (03:47)
  • Bringing some of the patients back from death: (17:01)
  • Disconnection from our mothers paralel to disconnection from mother nature: (28:18)
  • Comfort and convenience a resistance to the natural order of things and solutions: (30:28)
  • What does it take to realize the importance of farming as a collective?: (34:46)
  • Australian indigeneous culture reflected on Zach’s work: (41:52)
  • Zach’s beautiful description about encounter with an Australian aboriginal: (44:52)


Mentioned resources:

  • “The fertilizer for living a rich life is to actually contemplate death” quote by philosopher Alan Watts, one of Amrit’s favourite philosophers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Watts - Mentioned in intro
  • “The Acceptance of Death and Meaning of Life” by Alan Watts:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KRgluYeps 
  • About Alan Watts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Watts 
  • The Rich Roll Podcast: “Zach Bush, M.D. on GMOs, Glyphosate & Healing the Gut”: https://www.richroll.com/podcast/zach-bush-353/ - Recommended by Amrit as a game changer! - Mentioned in timestamp (17:01) - Conversation and mind blowing story about acceptance.
  • About Rich Roll: https://www.richroll.com/bio/ 
  • Hospice philosophy: The philosophy of hospice is to recognize that quality of life, peace, and comfort at the end of life should be the focus of healthcare when curing a patient's disease is no longer possible.
  • Movie Interstellar:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_(film) - Mentioned in timestamp (34:46) - Conversation about the importance of farming; the film brings the importance of farming front-and-centre. 
  • Indigeneous culture and the importance of soil:  “For many Indigenous people, land relates to all aspects of existence - culture, spirituality, language, law, family and identity. ... That person is entrusted with the knowledge and responsibility to care for their land, providing a deep sense of identity, purpose and belonging” - Mentioned in timestamp (41:52) - Australian indigeneous culture’s affection for consciousness and medicine in the “bush” land, soil and mother nature reflected on Zach’s work.


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