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Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

61 min • 25 februari 2025

My guest today is Chris Pedregal. Chris is the founder and CEO of Granola, an AI-powered notepad that transcribes your meetings and enhances your meeting notes. Chris shares fascinating insights on how humans have historically developed tools to extend our cognitive capabilities - from writing and mathematical notation to data visualization - and how AI represents the next frontier in this evolution. We explore competitive dynamics between model providers and application builders, and Chris shares his vision for AI tools that make us "more human and better humans" rather than replacing human altogether. Our conversation covers the product philosophy behind Granola, the challenges of building in the fast-moving AI space, and how small teams are creating outsized impact in this new paradigm. Please enjoy my conversation with Chris Pedregal.



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Show Notes:


(00:00:00) Learn About Ramp, Ridgeline, & AlphaSense

(00:05:41) Historical Examples of Tools for Thought

(00:06:55) The Impact of AI on Tools for Thought

(00:09:08) Introducing Granola: AI-Powered Notetaking

(00:10:10) Granola's Unique Approach to AI Notetaking

(00:13:33) User Experiences and Future Vision

(00:15:40) Privacy and Social Norms in AI Recording

(00:20:47) Building Granola: Challenges and Innovations

(00:34:55) AI Startups and Granola's Early Adoption

(00:35:40) Unexpected Feedback from High-Profile CEOs

(00:39:53) Building Better and Faster in a Competitive Space

(00:42:09) The Future of AI-Powered Workspaces

(00:54:00) Challenges and Opportunities in AI and Education

(00:56:03) The Evolution of App Development

(00:58:01) The Potential of Small Teams in Big Businesses

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