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Today's guest is distinguished academic, medic, historian and legislator, Lord Leslie Turnberg.
Born in Salford in 1934 to Polish and Romanian immigrant parents, Leslie grew up to enjoy a successful career in medicine including presidency of the Royal College of Physicians.
He took his place in the House of Lords when Tony Blair was prime minister and now speaks with authority in the upper chamber on medicine, the NHS and Israel.
Agile of mind with a lifetime of experience and achievement, Leslie has applied his considerable intellect to becoming a historian.
To mark the centenary of the Balfour Declaration, he wrote a book on its place in today's Middle East.
In an extensive conversation, we discuss the history of Israel's formation, the key Zionist characters, those who helped them, today's Palestinians - and as a Labour peer, what he thinks of the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
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