What does it cost to achieve the traditional measures of success? What if your racial identity, your cultural heritage, or your family history was an obstacle to getting ahead? In this episode, two highly accomplished people talk about what success required of them. We move beyond the obvious necessities of hard work, talent, and perseverance and explore what people sometimes hide or give up, to exceed societal expectations. Brian Lowery’s guests on this episode are Julia Collins, Founder and CEO, Planet FWD + Moonshot Snacks, and Oscar Munoz, executive chairman and former CEO of United Airlines. For more about Brian and his work, visit knowwhatyousee.com.