Kodsnack 595 - Maintain curiosity, with Woody Zuill and Martin Lassbo

Fredrik paid a visit to Hogia and got the opportunity to talk to Woody Zuill and Martin Lassbo about mob programming, innovation, and keeping an open and curious mind.

Mob programming is still new.

Every time you say “that can’t work”, you tend to be proven wrong eventually. Try it, for a year or two. You can’t evaluate things after trying it for just an hour or two, some things take much longer.

But do steer and adjust often.

How frequently do you want to steer? Short iterations are valuable in that they give us more opportunities to steer work in a good direction.

Standardization stifles innovation. Sometimes you do want it, but it depends on which space you’re in.

We had a process, but we still succeeded!

Where did the thought I have originate? All your thoughts started somewhere else. The things we most believe can hide our biggest mistakes.

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• Hogia
• Woody Zuill
• Martin Lassbo
• Mob programming
• Episode 218 (in Swedish) covers working in a mob in depth
• Other episodes with Woody
• Support us on Ko-fi!
• Øredev
• Woody’s Øredev talk 2018,
• Beginner’s mind
• Pair programming
• Turn up the good
• Cynefin - the decision framework you can never spell after hearing the word spoken
• Systems thinking - looking at systems as a whole, rather than in parts
• Kahnemann
• Thinking, fast and slow
• The drunkard’s walk by Leonard Mlodinow
• Rational irrationality
• Survivorship bias
• Confirmation bias * Desirability bias
• Max Planck
• Russell Ackoff
• Deming
• Chaos theory
• Feynman - you are the easiest person to fool
• Dave Farley

• There’s always a lot to talk about
• The continuation
• My best thinking time
• The beginner’s mind
• We just work together
• Maintain curiosity
• Steer towards better
• Turn up the good
• Getting a thing we thought we wanted
• How frequently could we steer?
• We think we know what we want
• Not a systems thinker
• Talent plus luck
• A higher level than the work itself
• A little more talent and a lot more luck
• I’ll misquote it but I’m close
• Re-think the things we already believe
• Stay open-minded
• Something else could eat us
• A student of the biases
• Walk down a different path