067 - Complexity very very bad with Carson Gross

In this episode Bartek is joined by Carson Gross, the developer behind HTMX, intercooler.js and grugbrain.dev. They discuss HTMX and its underlying philosophy, as well as the current and future state of the project. And, of course, being a Grug brained developer, good memes, and Carsons upcoming book about hypermedia.

Länkar

• Montana
• David Lynch
• Jodorowsky's Dune
• Frank Zappa on Montana
• Carson Gross
• htmx
• Montana State University
• intercooler.js - the predecessor to htmx
• jQuery
• Django
• HOWL - Hypermedia on whaterver you like
• J2EE
• Rails
• Laravel
• Blazor
• HATEOAS - Hypermedia as the engine of application state
• Hotwire
• REST
• Roy Fielding's dissartation which coined the term REST
• Hypercard
• Hyperscript
• The Visual Basic 6 debugger
• ADC - one connector between screen and computer
• Hypermedia Systems - the book project Carson is involved in
• Flask
• Hyperview
• Github Accelerator
• htmx on Github
• Alpine.js
• Daniel Stenberg, creator of curl
• The Grug brained developer
• Idiomorph
• The who will win meme
• htmx.org/essays
• htmx.org/talk
• htmx.org/discord
• OCaml
• Jetbrains-Khalid's tutorial on using htmx with .NET
• Github sponsors of htmx
• htmx on Twitter

Citat

• Your English is probably better than my Swedish
• My journey with htmx
• A very specific pain point
• You now have two stacks
• Just send HTML down the line
• The fear of looking dumb
• Too simple to possibly be the right idea
• Expected to return hypermedia
• A philosophy for your library
• The first resurgence of hypermedia
• Drag the program counter around
• A caveman with a keyboard
• What I've learned as a computer programmer

• (00:19) - Intro
• (03:01) - Bartek's way to htmx
• (05:29) - Pet theories about web development in the 2010's
• (10:18) - HATEOAS
• (18:36) - Good old ideas worth rediscovering
• (21:34) - Carson's book project
• (25:18) - Making a living while building open source projects
• (29:28) - The Grug brained developer
• (34:43) - What's next for htmx?
• (41:28) - Carson's favourite htmx meme
• (42:56) - Where can people lear more?