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John and Wayne are joined once again by their wives, Leslie and Classy as they talk more about marriage. They focus specifically on ministry and leadership as couples and how to navigate especially challenging seasons. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Order your copy of John and Wayne's book, God and Race, at godandrace.com.