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“Goodhart Typology via Structure, Function, and Randomness Distributions” by JustinShovelain, Mateusz Bagiński

32 min • 26 mars 2025

Audio note: this article contains 127 uses of latex notation, so the narration may be difficult to follow. There's a link to the original text in the episode description.

(Work done at Convergence Analysis. The ideas are due to Justin. Mateusz wrote the post. Thanks to Olga Babeeva for feedback on this post.)

In this post, we introduce the typology of structure, function, and randomness that builds on the framework introduced in the post Goodhart's Law Causal Diagrams. We aim to present a comprehensive categorization of the causes of Goodhart's problems.

But first, why do we care about this?

Goodhart's Law recap

The standard definition of Goodhart's Law is: "when a proxy for some value becomes the target of optimization pressure, the proxy will cease to be a good proxy.".

More specifically: we see a meaningful statistical relationship between the values of two random variables <span>_I_</span&gt [...]

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Outline:

(00:56) Goodharts Law recap

(01:47) Some motivation

(02:48) Introduction

(07:36) Ontology

(07:39) Causal diagrams (re-)introduced

(11:40) Intervention, target, and measure

(15:05) Goodhart failure

(16:23) Types of Goodhart failures

(16:27) Structural errors

(20:47) Functional errors

(25:48) Calibration errors

(28:02) Potential extensions and further directions

(28:54) Appendices

(28:57) Order-theoretic details

(30:11) Relationship to Scott Garrabrants Goodhart Taxonomy

The original text contained 10 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.

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First published:
March 25th, 2025

Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/TYgztDNXhobbqMpXh/goodhart-typology-via-structure-function-and-randomness

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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Images from the article:

Diagram showing connections between I, T, and multiple U nodes.
Flowchart showing three decision points leading to learning outcomes or success.
Three diagrams showing causal structure, functional dependencies, and random components.
Network diagram showing nodes A, B, C, F with arrow connections.
Simple diagram showing relationships between variables T, M, and their inputs

This appears to be a directed graph or network diagram showing mathematical/statistical relationships, with nodes labeled I, T, M, and various X variables with superscripts T and M connected by arrows indicating dependencies or flows.

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