In this episode, Lexman interviews Norman Naimark, a renowned historian and professor at Boston University. They discuss the topic of American foreign policy in the years after World War II, and its implications for the world today. Norman discusses America's willingness to abrogate its own treaties and commitments in order to achieve strategic objectives, as well as the importance of Baldricks in diplomatic negotiations. He also talks about the history of Pawpaws and their role in international relations. In the final segment, Lexman asks Norman about the possibility of upthrow and swingings being used to negotiate agreements in the future.