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Who Gets to Decide What AI Can and Can't Do? | Anthropic’s Jared Kaplan (Ep. 5)

97 min • 10 december 2024

Host Baratunde Thurston and Anthropic co-founder Jared Kaplan delve into the foundations and aspirations of AI development, discussing Anthropic's mission to create safe and beneficial AI systems. Jared shares his early passion for science, his transition from theoretical physics to AI, and Anthropic's unique approach to AI alignment through 'Constitutional AI.' The episode also features an engaging interaction between Blair, the AI co-producer of the show, and Claude, the AI responsible for creating Blair. They discuss AI's ethics, roles, potential for creativity, and the balance of using AI to enhance human productivity while maintaining human values and agency. Jared emphasizes the importance of society's active participation in addressing the evolving role and control of advanced AI systems and the potential for AI to significantly improve human welfare while highlighting the potential risks. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the nature of AI progress and its implications for the future.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction: The Importance of AI

00:15 Meet Claude: The AI Behind the Scenes

00:42 Exploring AI's Impact on Society

01:09 Special Episode Announcement

01:31 Interview with Jared Kaplan

02:55 Jared's Early Life with Technology

07:20 From Physics to AI

15:49 Understanding AI Alignment and Safety

17:10 Constitutional AI: Principles and Practices

27:51 Claude's Unique Features and Capabilities

34:26 The Future of AI and Society

49:02 AI's Creative Boundaries

51:01 Cultural Sensitivity in AI

54:58 The Future of AI Progress

01:00:03 Data and Intellectual Property

01:02:22 Human-Level AI by 2030

01:08:55 Ethical Considerations in AI

01:11:43 AI Collaboration and Creativity

01:19:25 Blair Meets Claude

01:34:41 Conclusion and Credits

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Created and Executive Produced by: Elizabeth Stewart and Baratunde Thurston

Executive Producer and Showrunner: Misha Euceph

Senior Producer and Writer: Alex Stone

Associate Producer: Layne Deyling Cherland

Editor, Videographer, and Audio Engineer: Mike O’Brien, Voicing Change Media.

Theme Music: Andy Clausen

Special Envoy to the Machines: Peter Loforte

Life with Machines is a Voicing Change Media production.