Coming up in this episode

• The Browser Watch Leftovers
• The History of GNOME
• And Why Gnome is the best desktop
• And a little holiday break

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Riding the Lightning
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond
48:01 How'd GNOME Go?
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE
1:26:18 Stinger

Watch the Video!
https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro

Mini Browser Watch

• October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages
• November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages

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• The email in 1997 to start it all
• Development snapshot 0.13 announcement
• GNOME 1.0 release
• GUADEC
• GNOME OG website
• GNOME revamped website
• HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME as their default desktops.
• GNOME Foundation
• GNOME 2.0 release
• Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8
• GNOME no longer part of GNU
• GNOME was no longer an acronym.
• Gnome 3.0 arrives
• Linus Torvalds noted
• Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that
• Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME.
• Again, the target of litigation
• Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights
• Gnome 40
• The Gnome 40 announcement
• The Gnome 45 announcement
• Original GNOME introduction (~99)
• The Evolution of the GNOME Project
• Using GNOME gmc (GNOME Midnight Commander)
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes
• "A Brief History of GNOME" Video
• GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes

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Next Time

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• Leo makes me a LUSsh 🍻
• Official standings for a browser
• We strum some reverberations
• Focus on the HQ
• Focus on the sounds
• Forecast the future

Watch the video!
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Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:05 Go to lus.sh
8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu?
14:20 * Forced Snaps
21:24 * Ads in the Terminal
27:00 * Telemetry?!
29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom?
32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint
34:43 Browser Watch
34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak
39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS
42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free
47:53 Reverb Focus
48:05 * Ian
53:13 * Dan!
58:26 * TeamLinux01
1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ
1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5
1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History
1:26:54 Stinger

lus.sh

• .sh is a common Shell Script file extension
• .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother
• .sh is also the first two letters in "short"

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Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu?

• TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way.

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Browser Watch!

Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial

• Vivaldi Flatpak on Flathub
• OMGUbuntu coverage

Vivaldi is also on iOS

• Vivaldi is on iOS
• It has great features
• The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS
• Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS

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Reverb Focus

Ian comments on YouTube about Ed

• You can see the comments on this video

Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma

• You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube Or TILvids

TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey

• Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense.

Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ

• Main Website - Steamdeck HQ
• Steamdeck HQ YouTube channel
• Steamdeck HQ on Mastodon

Gentoo Focus

• Last time on LUS Streaming Live
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Next Time

We plan to explore and provide the history of Gnome Desktop Environment.

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• A little Musing on CDE
• A few answers from the man himself
• The history of XFce
• How it went
• And a new journey

0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Ask Olivier
20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996)
22:08 Enter XFce (1997)
24:47 The XForms Problem (1998)
25:56 The Third (1999)
29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015)
32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023)
36:22 More Questions!
45:50 How'd Xfce Go?
1:02:25 Next Time
1:09:45 Stinger

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The History of Xfce

• Olivier Fourdan posted a question to a few newsgroups that got things started.
• XForms toolkit
• An early release announcement - 2.3.0
• Changelog for 2.4.0 which shows changes all the way back to the beginning.
• XFce 2.4 User Guide
• XFce 3.2 User Guide
• 2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan
• 2001 Interview
• XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003
• xfce goes all lowercase
• 2007 Interview
• 2009 Linux Journal Interview
• 2009 Slashgear Interview
• 2017 Interview with Sean Davis
• Xfce 4.4 - 4.18

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Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Gnome Desktop Environment.

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• Buntober?
• We Keep the IPs safe
• Cryptic greetings
• Some feedback
• and we get double focused

We do video, too!
https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q

407 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:48 Ubuntu Attacks!
17:20 Google Protection?
31:36 Encrypted Client Hello
46:33 Reverb
1:17:15 Gentoo Focus
1:26:42 Stinger

We're both on Ubuntu 23.10.... WHAT?!

• Ubuntu Desktop
• Ubuntu Flavors
• 23.10 Release Announcement
• Leo is all aboard on the Wayland hotness on the main Ubuntu desktop and Dan is trying out Xubuntu to pair with our Xfce journey.

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Google is protecting our IPs

• Google Chrome's IP Protection

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Cryptic Greetings

• Encrypted Client Hello
• HTTPS - RFC 2818
• Server Name Indication
• Firefox 119 release notes

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Reverb Focus

Stewie on the Gentoo Checkin in episode 405

• A decent overview about Swap Space

Dominic on Telegram

• Why does everything look like Windows? Windows, Icons, Menus and Panels aka WIMP is popular and familiar.

Nate on Telegram

• Nate is running Plasma in a Wayland session on openSUSE Tumbleweed on his Framework Laptop with success.

John A. on Lemmy

• John recommends keeping our Lemmy instance limited to Patrons.

Community Focus - Craft Computing

• Craft Computing YouTube
• Craft Computing Patreon
• Craft Computing on X
• Craft Computing subreddit

Gentoo Focus

• Last time on LUS Streaming Live
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Next Time

We plan to explore and provide the history of XFCE.

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Coming up in this episode

• We do a little upgrade
• Firefox fixes a tooltip
• The History of W, V, X and CDE
• How it went
• And a new old desktop to explore

0:00 Cold Open
1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded!
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly
22:22 CDE History: Intro
24:04 CDE History: X
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK
29:25 CDE History: COSE
31:28 CDE History: CDE & Others
34:24 CDE History: The Opening
36:14 CDE History: The Releases
43:02 How'd CDE Go?
1:16:00 Next Time
1:21:29 Stinger

Watch the video!
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Banter

• The LUS Lemmy instance got an update.
  • The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be prepared for.
  • One of the issues Dan had is likely fixed now.
• The Bug that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!
• Dan installed Firefox from the .tar.gz download.
  • Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the /opt directory.

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The History of The Common Desktop Environment (CDE)

• The Andrew Project
• W was a windowing system that was originally written for the V operating system.
• In 1984, Robert Scheifler wrote.
• X is our “reaction” to W
• Ultrix Window Manager, or uwm
• Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager, or twm
• Open Look Specification
• The OSF narrows the search for a User Interface.
• HP and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.
• Sun went on to build OpenWindows, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace SunView.
• COSE
• In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, merged, and in 96, merged again with X/Open into The Open Group.
• Motif and CDE became one
• KDE enters the scene.
• May of 2000 when Motif was released as OpenMotif.
• LessTif, because Less is Mo, published an initial statement
• August 6th, 2012, CDE was relicensed under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.
• After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on March 1st, 2014.
• The final release, at least as of this recording, 2.5.1, dropped in October of 2022.

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Next Time

Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Xfce Desktop Environment

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Coming up in this episode

• You are so far aWAY from me
• We are watching out for the browsers
• A little reverb focus
• Community and GenTOO

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:40 The Wayland Soapbox
20:33 Browser Watch
46:27 Reverb Focus
1:12:02 Community Focus
1:14:46 Gentoo Focus
1:29:30 Next Time: CDE History!
1:31:50 Stinger

Watch the Video!
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Social Soapbox - Wayland

• Nate Graham's blog post - So let's talk about this Wayland thing
• The Wayland Protocol
• Wayland from the Arch Wiki
• Wayland from the Gentoo Wiki

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Browser Watch

• Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance
• Deciding for ourselves: 98% of people want a browser choice screen, Mozilla study finds
• It's time to ditch Chrome and fall in love with Firefox again.

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Reverb Focus

Stewie - Why GRUB?

• Gentoo Wiki - GRUB
• GRUB2 Gentoo Quick Start

Dai - Telemetry

• Fedora considers adding telemetry
• Fedora Wiki on the proposal
• Endless OS's optional telemetry

Ganome - Gentoo

• Switching to the Gnome Profile doesn't install Gnome but it is an important step.
• emerge --ask gnome-base/gnome is what installs the desktop.

Rene

• Wi-Fi Sheep
• RISC OS Developments Ltd
• RISC OS Open
• RISC OS Info
• RISC OS at Distrowatch
• Plan9 Foundation
• leepsvideo YouTube channel
• EasyOS

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Community Focus - Jorge Castro

• Jorge Castro
• Universal Blue
• Jorge at GitHub

Gentoo Focus

• Last time on LUS Streaming Live
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• Gentoo MAKEOPTS jobs

Next Time

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• The prying eyes wanna know 👀
• The History of Silverblue
• What's immutable anyway?
• and how we layered a few packages

0:00 Cold Open
1:44 Telemetry Trouble
27:45 Silverblue 2012
30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014
33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017
34:50 Silverblue 2018
38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021
39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023
41:47 An Immutability Primer?
1:01:39 How'd Silverblue Go?
1:28:42 Next Time: Topics & CDE
1:33:04 Stinger

The video version!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU

Banter

• Fedora considers adding telemetry
• Fedora Wiki on the proposal
• Endless OS's optional telemetry
• Discussion thread

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The History of Fedora Silverblue

• Multiple Bootable Roots
• From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree
• Gnome Continuous
• Walters described OSTree as "a magic formula."
• March 20, 2013 - Docker is born
• CoreOS sees its first public release in October of 2013.
• Red Hat official inclusion of Docker with RHEL 6.5
• April 2014 - Project Atomic
• The actual distro building was left to the actual distro projects.
• Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20
• CENTOS and RHEL partner which began the journey to Atomic Host.
• A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO becomes available based on Rawhide.
• August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds were available.
• December 2014 - Fedora 21 releases with Atomic Host images.
• March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host released.
• July 2015 - Package layering was introduced.
• Atomic Hosts came and went, including bi-weekly releases
• 2016 - XDG-App was renamed Flatpak.
• 2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was acquired by Red Hat in January. It became, Red Hat CoreOS.
• The Fedora flavor would live on as... Team Silverblue.
• The domain name and handles around the web were available
• It was almost called Silverleaf
• October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 was released with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine noted.
• The Fedora Council made the decision to tighten things up regarding naming.
• 2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant were released
• 2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, Fedora Kinoite appears.
• 2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, Fedora Sericea appears.

Further Reading

• Fedora Silverblue Technical information
• rpm-ostree documentation
• Vanilla OS documentation
• ABRoot
• blendOS documentation
• libostree
• Sodalite
• Bazzite
• Universal Blue

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Next Time

Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro isn't a distro, what? We plan to explore and provide the history of CDE or Common Desktop Environment.

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Coming up in this episode

• Immutability is confusing
• Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I)
• Reverb Focus
• Hardware Focus
• And Gentoo Focus

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Immutability Is Confusing
21:25 Going the Wrong WEI
40:55 Reverb Focus
45:56 Community Focus
51:09 Gentoo Focus
1:29:25 Next Time
1:31:02 Stinger

The video version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk

Banter

• Fedora Silverblue Technical information
• rpm-ostree documentation
• Vanilla OS documentation
• ABRoot
• blendOS documentation

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Web Environment Integrity

• 2015 - AMP
• 2019 - Google proposed Web Bundles
• 2021 - Google weakened the power of extensions
• May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to drop the idea.
• April 24, 2023 - The original Google WEI proposal post
• July 24, 2023 - Mozilla's rebuke
• July 25, 2023 - Vivaldi's rebuke
• August 1, 2023 - Brave's rebuke
• August 8, 2023 - The EFF rebuke

More Announcements

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Reverb Focus, all about the feedback.

Lily

https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/

Hackerdefo

I have created a few useful (hopefully) gists related to Debian
sources.list files and Debian download links. Here are links to those gists,

• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab
• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f
• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d
• https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/124a37ca927018f8b52a72e316d160fa
• My Blog -> https://hakerdefo.github.io
• My Projects -> https://github.com/hakerdefo

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Gentoo Focus

• use https://packages.gentoo.org
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• An NVMe for me
• The Shure Next To You
• Of course, the History of Debian
• Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS

0:00 Cold Open
1:04 A Few Good Deals
16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning
18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994
22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998
26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 & Y2k
31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009
36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020
42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027
45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts
1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue & Topics
1:18:03 Stinger

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The History of Debian

• Before Debian there was Softlanding Linux.
• August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock's announcement that started it all.
• January 1994, Ian releases the Debian Manifesto.
• April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and needed a break.
• March 1996, Ian steps down as Debian Project Leader. Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job.
• The FSF pulls sponsorship but later the FSF "resumed cordial relations".
• June 17, 1996, Debian 1.1 is released with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was named Buzz, after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the Debian releases.
• February 1, 1997, A board of directors had been elected for Software in the Public Interest.
• February 20, 1997, Debian shows its intent to ratify a constitution.
• July 1, 1997, Debian is really launched into space this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, sending video and other data back home.
• December 2, 1998, Debian ratifies a Constitution.
• At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity.
• Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997
• January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, expired again.
• February 4, 1999, a Logo contest announcement!
• May 3, 1999, the submissions were in. Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be too Linux-specific.
• June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today won the vote.
• July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was hinted at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially a thing and the specifications are out there boasting a more modular design.
• Debian weathered the Y2k storm with no major problems.
• In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD ahead of the official release.
• Debian 3.0 was delayed because of broken boot floppies.
• 2002, the first net installation images were available.
• 2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, would be replaced by the free-software version, Iceweasel.
• 2013, the trailing 0 on the major release is dropped. Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc.
• Also in 2013, multi-arch support is added.
• 2020, Jonathan Carter was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader.
• June 10, 2023, Debian 12 is released, codenamed Bookworm.

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Debian Quick links

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• Debian at Wikipedia
• Debian History page
• Debian releases
• The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project
• List of Debian Project Leaders

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• The Red Hat Recap
• Browser Watch...ing!
• Some feedback, and a focus

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401 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:16 The Gentoo Checkin
11:33 We Have a Lemmy!
19:24 Red Hat Recap
46:09 Browser Watch
1:05:21 Feedback
1:23:05 Community Focus: Linux Matters
1:27:03 App Focus: Jerboa & Memmy
1:34:48 Next Time: Debian
1:37:09 Stinger

Banter

• Gentoo check in - Use the Handbook! The wiki is just great in general.
• Lemmy
• The Linux User Space Lemmy instance
• feddit's community browser
• Another Lemmy explorer

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RH takes their source and goes home

2019

• July - IBM completed its acquisition of Red Hat. Jim Whitehurst said at the time.

2020

• December - CentOS Stream announced as the successor to CentOS Linux.
• an FAQ linked in the CentOS announcement about Stream

2021

• January - Red Hat announces more free RHEL.
• February - Brian Exelbierd noted on the Red Hat Developer site.
• March - Alma Linux 8.3 was released
• June - Rocky Linux followed with their 8.4 release

2022

• Red Hat was posting 15% revenue increases every quarter of the year.
• IBM, despite its projected 3900 person layoff was growing at similar rates.

2023

• April - Red Hat announement
• Ben Cotton and others were laid off.
• June - Red Hat announce that CentOS sources will no longer be on github
• Brian Exelbierd's post from February 2021 changed.
• Mike McGrath writes a clarification post
• Rocky Linux announces that they'll possibly be using the Universal Base Images
• July - Alma Linux no longer aims for bug-for-bug compatibility.

SUSE and Oracle

• Oracle's press release
• Oracle Linux
• SUSE's statement
• SUSE Liberty Linux
• SUSE Manager

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Browser Watch

• Firefox 115 brings hardware video decoding for Intel GPUs and more.
• Vivaldi 6.1 they found a way to use Bing Chat.
• Edge blocks notification spam, now!
• Opera is relaunching as Opera One.

Feedback

Sebastian

• SerenityOS
• Ladybird Browser
• Andreas Kling on YouTube

Rich

• Greenbone Open Source Vulnerability Management
• Leo recommends The Linux Commandline by Willian Shotts
• Dan recommends Learn Linux TV
• If there is something specific you want to know more about let us know.

Scout

• HP Elite Mini 800 PCs
• Lenovo M75q Mini PCs
• Dell OptiPlex Micro PCs
• The a11y project
• Orca is part of Gnome
• Other Gnome accessibility tools
• KDE accessibility tools

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• Website
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• RSS feed

App Focus Jerboa and Memmy

• Jerboa in the Google Play Store
• Jerboa in FDroid
• Jerboa GitHub repo
• Memmy in the Apple store
• Memmy GitHub repo

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1. The History of Raspbian Raspberry Pi OS
2. What we've been doing with Pi's
3. And we run something over the break

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0:00 Cold Open
1:36 SBC, One, Two, Three
17:24 Raspberry Pi History: The Early Days
19:55 2006 - 2012
22:22 2012 - 2014
26:26 2014 - 2017
33:28 2017 - 2020
37:05 2020 - 2023
43:12 Hot Pis and Hot Takes
1:07:41 Next Season: A Twofer
1:16:36 Stinger

Banter

• ZimaBoard
• NanoPi R4S
• NanoPi R2S
• IPFire
• OPNsense
• OpenWrt

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Raspberry Pi OS the History

• BBC Micro
• ZX Spectrum
• The very first Raspberry Pi prototypes
• Early alpha boards
• Paul Beech's logo
• Early hacking resulted in a functional Debian Squeeze installation
• The Raspberry Pi is official
• Arch Linux ARM supporting the Raspberry Pi is out in the wild
• Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix
• The first Raspbian SD Image was made available for testing
• Raspberry Pi's began hitting doorsteps
• Quake III runs on Raspberry Pi
• Debian Wheezy beta build hits the public net
• Raspbian was officially announced
• Turbo Mode is added
• The model B got upgraded
• The Model A is finally available
• Minecraft: Pi Edition is released
• The cameras and updates in Raspbian are released
• Wayland preview is announced
• NOOBS
• Pi NoIR camera is now available
• No Foolin'. A website revamp
• Raspberry Pi compute module is announced
• Compute module development kits were available in June.
• Raspberry Pi B+ is launched
• Hardware Attached on Top
• Model A+ is announced
• The Raspberry Pi 2 launched
• The Raspberry Pi becomes the best selling British computer
• Raspbian rebases on Jessie
• Raspberry Pi Zero lands
• Raspberry Pi 3 releases
• About 5% of website traffic was served up by a Pi 3 on launch day.
• A camera connector for the Pi zero
• Raspbian is now a fully supported platform for Docker!
• SUSE released a 64-bit SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for the Raspberry Pi.
• PIXEL is now available for any machine that can run Debian Jessie!
• Compute Module 3 is released
• Pi Zero W is added to the lineup
• Raspbian rebases on Stretch
• The release for PCs and Macs rebases too
• The setup wizard runs automatically on first start.
• Pi 3 Model A+ hits shelves
• Raspberry Pi 4 goes on sale
• With the Pi 4 an overhauled OS gets shipped
• Feb 2020 a new Raspbian release
• 12.3 MP high quality camera hits the streets
• 8GB version of the Raspberry Pi 4 is on sale
• Raspbian ==> Raspberry Pi OS
• Compute Module 4 lands
• Raspberry Pi 400. A Pi 4 built into a keyboard
• Dec 2020 Raspberry Pi OS release
• Raspberry Pi Pico
• Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W is now on sale
• The November 2021 release
• Raspberry Pi OS in 64-bit finally hits mirrors
• April 2021 release of RasPiOS
• Raspberry Pi Pico W at 6 dollars debuts
• September 2022 update
• Raspberry Pi Camera Module 3 is released

Raspberry Pi OS links

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• The Forum
• Documentation
• Daily News
• Foundation

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1. Leo shows his moxy
2. Ubuntu falls flat
3. Watch the browsers
4. A Look back on our season
5. and Leo moves his files

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319 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:03 Proxy Moxie
16:42 Ansible In Your Pantsible
22:56 Ubuntu Falls Flat
41:57 Browser Watch!
1:03:55 Feedback
1:13:49 Season 3 Recap
1:26:17 Community Focus: Geerling Guy
1:28:13 App Focus: TermSCP & Filezilla
1:37:25 Next Time: Raspberry Pi OS
1:39:25 Stinger

Banter

• Proxmox
• Ansible

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Flattening out Ubuntu

• Ubuntu and the official flavors decide not to include Flatpak by default

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Browser Watch

• Total Cookie Protection
• Firefox Extension
• Firefox will get support for animated AV1 images and in a surprise move an official debian/ubuntu package in .deb format.
• Edge is testing a Crypto Wallet.
• Edge added DALL-E right into the browser!
• Brave adds a VPN option.
• Brave removes legacy Google sign-in Cookies.
• Chrome/Chromium will unload background tabs to save memory.
• Falkon is finally getting hardware acceleration!
• Gnome Web has a few tricks coming in version 44, as well.

Feedback

Senor Araton On compiling the Gentoo Kernel

• Installed a distribution-binary-kernel to get a running system.
• Leo wants to compile all the things.

John A. On Linux Books

• ownCloud

Bradly on the Ubuntu ShipIt Program

• Tried to convert as many as possible.

Bonus Bradly

• Also - Leo, make the switch to Proxmox. Dan is right.

R.L. on -O3

• Just FYI, the compiler option is -O3 (dash oh three), not -03 (dash zero 3) The O obviously stands for Optimize 😅.

Season 3 in review - Pick of the picks

• Community Focus - Dan - Veronica Explains
• Community Focus - Leo - Linux Saloon
• App Focus - Dan - Crowdsec
• App Focus - Leo - trash-cli
• Distro - Dan - CentOS Stream
• Distro - Leo - EndlessOS

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Community Focus - Geerling Guy

• Geerling Guy
• Jeff's YouTube
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App Focus Filezilla and termscp

• Filezilla
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Next Time

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Coming up in this episode

1. The Never Ending History
2. A Cassidy James Experience
3. And we go berry picking

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again
3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things
18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012
21:51 2013-2015
25:36 2016-2018
29:25 2019-2021
32:57 2022-2023
36:08 (A Short) How'd It Go?
42:33 A Cassidy James Experience
1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback
1:19:53 Stinger

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Banter

• Vivaldi 5.7 fixes Leo's scrolling woes.
• Dan installs Proxmox VE on a couple of HP mini pcs.

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EndlessOS the History

• Endless Mobile Inc.'s was founded.
• Computers started shipping in late June 2015.
• The Endless Mini.
• August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt Flatpak for apps and have it configured for use out of the box.
• October 2016 Netflix and Flash were broken.
• Jan 4, 2017 Endless Mission One and Mini released.
• Mission Mini Review
• Mission One Review
• March 2017 3.1.3 Released and now ISOs are now available.
• November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was then quickly withdrawn. 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue.
• April 1, 2020 Endless drops its for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit.
• November 2020 Hack and friends go fully open source!
• June 2021 The Endless Laptop.
• January 2023 5.0 Released.
• 4.0.14 delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible.
• March 7, 2023 Endless announces backing for Flathub

Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy's web page is here

Endless OS links

• Main web site
• The Forum
• The Wiki
• Endless OS Foundation
• The Early History
• The Release History
• The Early PC's
• All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0

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1. Plasma's Kind of Hot Right Now
2. Brush your passwords
3. Browser Watch!
4. A little feedback
5. And a little FOCUS

0:00 Cold Open
1:33 Akademy Awards
3:22 Plasma 5.27
24:33 Your Last Pass... Word
47:05 Browser Watch!
55:36 The Mailbag
1:05:35 Community Focus: Vashinator
1:08:08 App Focus: ClamAV
1:20:24 Next Time: EndlessOS History
1:22:25 Stinger

Watch this episode on Youtube
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Banter

• Akademy videos are online
• Plasma 5.27 is ❤
• Nick from The Linux Experiment did a video that goes over some highlights.
• Jupiter Broadcasting covered it in Linux Action News too.
• The question of why isn't KDE Plasma the main DE for a main distro comes around every once and a while.

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Password hygiene is all the rage

• LastPass Blog announcement of the security incident
• We talked a lot about password managers in episode 11.
• Mozilla's pitch.
• Brian Krebs has this to say.
• You can check your passwords against Have I Been Pwned.
• If you use Bitwarden/Vaultwarden, you can use the reports to check exposed, reused, and weak passwords.

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Browser Watch

• Gnome Web has a new UI for handling permissions.
  • We pitched Gnome Web a couple of episodes ago.
• Version 110, Firefox got the addition to import bookmarks, passwords and history from Opera, Opera GX, and Vivaldi.
• Vivaldi makes improvements to their Window Panel.
• Brave does HTTPS everywhere.
• Microsoft Edge adds Adobe Acrobat.

Feedback

"ee" "dee", gotcha 😉

• Turns out we were the joke instead of making one. Apologies.

Anonymous Listener suggests ownCloud

• ownCloud
• We'll check it out and report back.

Daniel M. says...

• Podman
• Daniel's document

Frank W. says...

• Brave is great and cheer from the Great White North, eh!
• Thanks Frank!

Eric M. on Youtube says...

• Pixar and other animation studios use RHEL for their workstations.
• In Podman, the pod comes from kubernetes. A pod is a group of containers that are in the same namespace.

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Community Focus - Vashinator

• Vash's YouTube channel.

App Focus ClamAV

• ClamAV

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Coming up in this episode

1. CentOS
2. ...
3. ...
4. Just CentOS

316 Audio Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends
9:42 CentOS History, 90's - 1996
11:46 96 - 2000
14:01 2000 - 2003
20:29 The Clone Wars
24:47 2004 - 2014
30:25 2014 - 2022
36:41 Our CentOS Experience
1:11:00 Next Time: Topics!
1:14:31 Stinger

Watch this episode on Youtube
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• Leo's font issue
• The bug
• HUGE Thanks to Carl George for technical help with this episode.

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CentOS Linux the History

• July 1994 The "preview" release for Red Hat Linux is released internally
• October 31 codenamed "Halloween" 0.9 is released.
• May 1995 "Mother's Day" 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding.
• March 1996 "Picasso" 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our Slackware episode to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. TL;DW
• September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with [their renamed gcc version](features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&mode=thread)
• May 2002 Enter Red Hat Enterprise Linux with version 2.1.
• Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami starts the Fedora Linux Project.
  • It aimed to bring together additional packages for Red Hat Linux.
  • It wasn't a distribution on its own. It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes.
• March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released.
• July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a more open and community focused development process.
• September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/).
  • Mailing list announcement
  • Transition info
• Also in September, enter cAos.
  • cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced couldn't really exist without each other.
• November 2003 Red Hat signals that it's getting out of the Boxed Linux business.
• What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 with Extras.
• December 2003 the first alpha of cAos.
• Three weeks later, CentOS 3.
• Another week later, CentOS 2 beta.
• Whitebox Linux first release candidate.
• David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, started getting the site together.
• Why Tao Linux?
• June 2006, David had to switch jobs.
• Scientific Linux
• Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,made it to mirrors.
• March 2004 CentOS 3.1 is released.
• Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 was the first proper release.
• February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. CentOS's response.
• March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. Coverage was picking up.
• Lance Davis announces that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project.
• May 2005 cAos 2 is announced, also based on RHEL 3.
• 2008 A new distribution, also called Caos.
• July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, had been missing for many months.
  • From the mailing list
  • From the Register
• October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever.
• January of 2014, Red Hat acquires.
• July 2014 CentOS 7.0 is released.
• 2019 Red Hat leaves Shadowman behind.
• September 2019 Red Hat announces CentOS Stream.
• Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream are released.
• January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their dev subscriptions work.
• December 2021 CentOS 9 Stream is released.

CentOS links

• Main Web Page
• About
• Blog
• Wiki
• Forums
• Mailing Lists
• Git Repositories
• Bug reporting
• IRC
• Planet
• List of CentOS releases

Other Links

• AlmaLinux
• Rocky Linux
• Red Hat Linux family tree

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1. A little podman
2. Manifest v3
3. Browsers
4. More Browsers?
5. And what do you know? More browsers

0:00 Cold Open
1:30 Giving Podman a Whirl
10:14 What's Wrong with a Few Boxes?
18:08 Browser Watch: Firefox 109
22:47 Browser Watch: Manifest v3 History
31:44 Browser Watch: A Little More Manifest v3
40:03 Browser Watch: The Chromium Scrolls
48:24 Browser Watch: A Fix to the Web
56:06 Feedback: Johnny and LinuxGameCast
58:51 Kid3 Turns 20
1:00:39 QR Codes for All!
1:05:22 Community Focus: ASUS NLC
1:09:41 App Focus: Gnome Web + Tangram
1:17:51 Next Time: CentOS
1:20:03 Stinger

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Firefox 109 brings manifest v3 support

• What are we talking about?

Maniwhat, now? Version who?

• 2018, Google proposes Manifest v3.
• July 2019, The EFF notes.
• Then in September of 2019, Firefox responded to the Manifest v3 announcement.
• April 2020, Vivaldi, with version 3.0, debuts its ad and tracker blocker as a means to bypass the manifest v3 issue altogether.
• Brave had always had an ad blocker, but beefed up its performance and ability in 2019.
• November 2020, Google finalizes and publishes Manifest v3.
• December 2021, The EFF reminds us.
• uBlock Origin Lite exists.

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Moar Browser Watch

Chromium answers Leo's prayers! In 109, Linux scrolling seems to have been fixed.

• He complained about it in Season 2 Episode 16.
• The Bug. ### A fix to the web
• Brave's been blocking the cookie consent banners.

Feedback

• Thanks Johnny (Aromatic Dev) for having the Linux Game Cast folks give us a shout.

A couple of other topics

• Kid3 turns 20
• qrencode
• DuckDuckGo instant answers can make QR codes too, just type qr code WHATEVER e.g. qr code https://linuxuserspace.show.

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Community Focus

• The ASUS NoteBook Linux Community
• Their GitLab

App Focus Gnome Web + Tangram

• Gnome Web
• Tangram

Next Time

The history of CentOS, a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show*

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Coming up in this episode

1. Helping one helps the other
2. A little off the beaten path
3. The history of GeckoLinux
4. And our experience
5. What will we think of next?

The Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc

0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere
5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour
10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla
19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005
21:04 2015
24:39 2016-2022
29:00 2022 - January 2023
34:49 Couple of Sam Things
45:14 How It Went
53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin
55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter
1:00:00 Next Time
1:07:21 Stinger

Banter

• Framasoft is the association behind both FreshRSS and Peertube
• Dan's been on EndeavourOS Cassini
• Leo's been trying out VanillaOS started by Mirko Brombin
• Dan's new favorite theme - Catppuccin Macchiato

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Gecko Linux the History

• GeckoLinux
• openSUSE
• November 13, 2015, the first release of GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced
• Explaining the version number
• In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie were added. In addition a BareBones edition. And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt get their first ISOs
• SUSE Studio Express
• Budgie put on ice for a while.
• Pantheon is added. AND the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions make a return.
• A vote for which default filesystem was held with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition was held.
• Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in LEAP
• Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux released after 15.4

Extra Information

• https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419
• https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458
• https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/
• https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567

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Coming up in this episode

1. Today I Learned
2. Let's get generous
3. Browser Watch!
4. So much feedback
5. Automated whack-a-mole

Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:47 We're on TILvids
14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive!
22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse
36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi
53:21 Feedback: furicle
53:52 Feedback: py
57:03 Feedback: georgh
1:02:18 Feedback: Anon
1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel
1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim
1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec
1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux
1:23:57 Stinger

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• What the heck is a TILvids?

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• Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS
• Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed
• Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora

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Browser Watch

Mozilla

• Adding accessibility
  • https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/
  • Cache the World!
• Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking

Vivaldi

• New web panel is enabled for Mastodon on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too.

More Feedback

History show possibilities.

• furicle on Mastodon

Have you tried BunsenLabs?

• py on Mastodon
• Leo has had an interest since "The end."

Emacs thoughts

• georgh on the History of Emacs clip
• Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video

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Community Focus

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App Focus

CrowdSec

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1. Opening up an Arcade!
2. A Community of Linux Distros
3. The grand tour!
4. Flatpak or Snap? How bout no.
5. We blend in with our desktop environment

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Linux Lite the History

• When people share knowledge, everyone benefits
• The 26th of October, 2012, Windows 8 was released and generally available.
• Linux Lite 1.0.0, based on Ubuntu 12.04, launched on the 26th of October, 2012 in defiance of Microsoft and Windows 8.
• 1.0.2 came 30 days later on November 25th, 2012
• 1.0.4 released on the 1st of February, 2013.
• In June, 2013, 1.0.6 dropped. This release also marked the opening of the Linux Lite Shop.
• February 12, 2014, 1.0.8 is released as the final release of the 1.x series
• June 2, 2014, Linux Lite 2.0, Beryl, is released.
• August 5, 2014, Lite Welcome is announced.
• September 15, 2014, Lite Cleaner, is released.
• December 1, 2014, Linux Lite 2.2 is ready for download.
• January 1, 2015, Lite Fonts is released.
• Lite Cleaner is renamed to Lite Tweaks.
• March 31, 2015, 2.4 is released.
• September 1, 2015, 2.6 is released.
• January 31, 2016 2.8 is released.
• May 31, 2016, 3.0, named Citrine, is released, and it's BIG.
• October 31, 2016, 3.2 is released.
• March 31, 2017, 3.4 is released.
• August 31, 2017, 3.6 is released.
• January 31, 2018, 3.8 is released.
• May 31, 2018, 4.0, Diamond, is released.
• October 31, 2018, 4.2 is released.
• March 31, 2019, 4.4 is released.
• August 31, 2019, 4.6 is released.
• January 14, 2020, 4.8 is released off of the normal schedule. It's because Windows 7 support ended this day.
• Interview by Abhishek Prakash
• May 31, 2020, 5.0, codenamed Emerald, is released.
• October 31, 2020, 5.2 is released.
• March 31, 2021, 5.4 is released.
• August 31, 2021, 5.6 is released.
• January 31, 2022, 5.8 is released.
• May 31, 2022, 6.0, codenamed Flourite, is released.
• October 31, 2022, 6.2 is released.
• EverydayLinuxUser interview
• An Interview with Linux Lite Project Manager Jerry Bezencon.
• 13 ways you can help desktop linux grow.

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Coming up in this episode

1. Internet woes, part deux.
2. Knocking them over, one at a time...
3. Angry Birdsite?
4. Knock knock. What's the password?
5. We get the explanation.

The Video
https://youtu.be/4MStcMU9py4

0:00 Cold Open
1:30 ISP Woes
7:37 The Linux User Space Curse
17:32 The Fediverse is Booming
34:32 Managing Your Passwords
52:07 A Little More Feedback
1:02:37 Veronica Explains
1:07:03 Pass
1:18:54 Stinger

Banter

• Leo has Internet woes.
• Dan's Curse!
  • The Ransomware Files closes up shop

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Fediverse is booming and Twitter is imploding.

• Micro services are bloat
  • One of those microservices just happened to be 2FA...
• Fired in a Tweet?
  • Forbes coverage
• Mastodon reaches 1M active monthly users.
  • But really... It is more like 4.6M and 5700 instances total and climbing.
• Raspberry Pi creates its own Mastodon instance.
• Vivaldi follows their lead.

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Feedback

Password managers

• u/curtistucker wrote us on Reddit
• pass
• KeePass
• Bitwarden
• Vaultwarden
• QtPass

Curtis thanks for the feedback! You have a great setup going there.

On Linux User Space

• Paul wrote us on Mastodon
• It was a great thread. Bottom line is, use what you like, no shame in doing so. Even if it isn't Linux we hope you enjoy and find some value in what we are doing here.

On "Where does the non-distro history go next?"

• Johnny, one of our fantastic patrons, gave a thumbs up to our mention of desktop environments and how often these histories would come out.
• He said "Hi, I vote for quality over quantity. I also vote for Leo's favorite, the history of XFCE! :D"

On the Community that hasn't been Toxic?

Youtube/Sigma: Nice content
LUS: Why thank you!
Youtube/Sigma: because I actually think it's super underrated
LUS: Now you're making us blush 😊 This is the type of thing that gives us the energy to keep going.

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Community Focus

• Veronica Explains on YouTube
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• Veronica Explains on her website

App Focus

pass

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1. Releasing it when it's ready
2. Exploitation Remotely
3. Exploitation Locally
4. Name Changes and Mergers
5. And Kali as we see it today

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/_ITBw2c3XaQ

0:00 Cold Open
1:04 Releasing When It's Ready
12:16 WHoppix vs. Auditor
14:40 WHAX, a Merger and Backtrack
17:50 Backtrack 4, 5 and Kali
23:09 Kali 2 Rolls Right Along
28:30 2020 to the Present
34:51 Kali as a Daily Driver?
1:03:25 Next Time: A Few Things

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Kali Linux the History

• remote-exploit.org
• mutsonline
• whitehat.co.il - "This site aims to create a repository of tools and information for Penetration testers and ethical hackers."
• Max Moser releases from his company's website, moser-informatik.ch
• Whoppix based on Knoppix is released with thanks from muts
• muts announces that Whoppix has evolved into a new project - WHAX
• Max Moser's Auditor Security Collection had structure and stability
• The merger of WHAX and Auditor Security Collection was put to the community
• The two projects finished the merger and became Backtrack and were based on Slax.
• Offensive-Security.org was born and is the company backing Backtrack. Essentially a spinoff of Moser's remote-exploit.org
• Backtrack 2 is released
• Backtrack 3 is released
• Backtrack 4 was released
• Backtrack 5 dropped the Slax base and is now based on Ubuntu
• Backtrack 5 R3 was released and was the last release of Backtrack ever.
• The Kali Teaser
• Kali 1.0
• Bleeding Edge Kali
• Using the Linux Deploy app in Android, Kali could be installed
• Kali gets a self destruct button
• Kali soars among the cloud. Amazon's cloud, anyway.
• Metapackages are introduced
• EFI boot capabilities are added
• Kali NetHunter was released
• Official Docker images
• Kali gets another rebase
• Windows Subsystem for Linux
• Wireguard VPN support is official
• Support for Vagrant
• Raspberry Pi 4 support
• Revamp of the metapackages
• Running Kali as non-root user
• Kali Linux is spotted in the TV show Mr. Robot
• kids.kali.org was launched! Yes, it was for April fools.
• Unkaputtbar
• 2022.2 brought Hollywood-Activate
• 2022.3 is the latest release at the time of the recording

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• Kali Blog
• About Kali Linux page
• Kali for Arm
• Kali NetHunter

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