LISK: Long Island Serial Killer

Legal pundit, Tanya Acker, outlines what steps are being taken by Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney to build an airtight case against Rex Heuermann. Tanya speaks with host, Chris Mass, about what strategies will most likely be employed by the legal teams, nuances of the discovery process, challenges of selecting a jury and the strength of the case to ensure a conviction.

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Sheriff Errol Toulon Jr oversees the Suffolk County jail that currently holds Rex Heuermann as he awaits trial for the murders of 3 women who were part of the Gilgo 4 whose bodies were discovered more than a decade ago on Long Island. Host, Chris Mass, speaks with Sheriff Toulon about what Heuermann's day-to-day life looks like in jail along with the work being done by Suffolk County's Anti-Trafficking Task Force and its efforts to ensure that sex workers do not fall victim to predators.

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More from Joshua Zeman and Rachel Mills covered the Gilgo 4 murders in their series "The Killing Season" along with other notable cases involving the deaths of sex workers. They share their thoughts around the arrest of Rex Heuermann, the work of the Suffolk County Police Department and where the case is headed next with host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey.

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Joshua Zeman and Rachel Mills covered the Gilgo 4 murders in their series "The Killing Season" along with other notable cases involving the deaths of sex workers. They share their thoughts around the arrest of Rex Heuermann, the work of the Suffolk County Police Department and where the case is headed next with host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey.

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The recent news media has intensely focused on alleged murderer Rex Heuermann and his family following his arrest. However, remembering the lives of the women whose bodies were found on Gilgo Beach is just as important, if not more so. Host, Chris Mass, speaks with author Robert Kolker whose book "Lost Girls" helped propel the murders and subsequent investigation into the national spotlight. Kolker recollects his time spent getting to know the victims families, elaborating on who the victims were as individuals and other important details.

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Even after former Suffolk County Police Chief, James Burke, was gone, the investigation into the Gilgo 4 murders and others was hampered by other members of the department. Host, Chris Mass, speaks with Gus Garcia-Roberts, author of "Jimmy The King", about his research into how and why members of SCPD and the District Attorney's office prevented the use of valuable leads and other evidence from being used to track down Rex Heuermann.

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With the arrest of Rex Heuermann, attention has been focused on why law enforcement officials didn't make an arrest earlier. Suffolk County Police were in possession of information for nearly a decade that would help identify Heuermann, but a number of officials within the department refused to facilitate the use of the leads, both internally and by the FBI. Author Gus Garcia-Roberts, author of "Jimmy The King", a book about former Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke, speaks with host, Chris Mass, about how members of SCPD and the District Attorney's Office ultimately hindered the investigation.

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After the arrest of Rex Heuermann on July 14th, law enforcement officials descended on his Massapequa Park home to search for additional evidence. Sonar, probes and excavators were used to dig up the Heuermann's backyard while inside the house, a large number of materials were meticulously labeled and carted away. Host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, speak to a former homicide detective to find out what the process entails when gathering evidence in a case like this. Beyond that, what was the effect on Heuermann's family and where does this leave them now?

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The arrest of Rex Heuermann brought immense relief to those who knew the case and had been deeply affected by it. However, his arrest also prompted a whole new set of questions that the public wants answered. Where did Heuermann murder the women? Are there more bodies out there that authorities don't know about? What does law enforcement know that they haven't shared? Host, Chris Mass, speaks with a former homicide detective who adds his perspective on how different information helped triangulate Rex; how the alleged murderer may have carried out the killings; what's next in the criminal proceedings and a host of other topics.

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In order to arrest Rex Heuermann in connection with at least 3 of the murders in the "Gilgo 4" case, law enforcement officials first had to gather and analyze massive amounts of information. From gathering internet search records to comparing the location of cellphones and gathering DNA from a discarded slice of pizza, officials knew that they would need a mountain of evidence before they took Rex Heuermann into custody. Host, Chris Mass, speaks with a former homicide detective from the New York City area about what steps were most likely taken.

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Since four bodies were initially discovered on Gilgo Beach more than a decade ago, their killer has eluded law enforcement...until now. Rex Heuermann, from Massapequa Park, Long Island, was taken into custody on July 14th in connection with the death of three sex workers. He is also the primary suspect in the death of a fourth woman and perhaps many more. Host, Chris Mass, who chronicled the gruesome case in the first two seasons of "LISK: Long Island Serial Killer" speaks with Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, about what how the presumed LISK was identified, what we know about him as a person and where his prosecution will go from here.

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Check out the new 3-part series "The Fall Line" that dives into the cold case of Chairo Garibay Ferreyra. In 2005, the 20-year old woman disappeared in Olivehurst, CA, and only after a 5-week search did authorities make a grim discovery. No arrest has ever been made.

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BONUS: Bear Brodsky lived with Amber Costello, the last known victim of LISK, and Dave Schaller in the house on America Avenue in Babylon, Long Island. Bear talks about their struggles with drug addiction, Amber's caring personality, the dangers of doing incalls and outcalls. Bear also looks at a series of photographs of men who are tied to the LISK case and recalls which ones look familiar as people who may have visited Amber at the house. Hosted by Chris Mass. Part 2 of 2.

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BONUS: Bear Brodsky lived with LISK victim, Amber Costello, and Dave Schaller on America Avenue in Babylon, Long Island. After Bear met Amber in a rehab program, she invited him to move into the house she shared with Dave. Bear recalls stories of Amber's generous and loving nature along with their shared struggles with addiction. Bear also talks about Amber's entry into sex work, how she navigated the dangers of both incall and outcall service, and how they maintained their drug habits. Finally, he recalls his memories of learning about Amber's disappearance and the fallout afterwards. Hosted by Chris Mass. Part 1 of 2.

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The Suffolk County Police Department released Shannan Gilbert's 911 call she after more than 12 years. The call and the ensuing search for Shannan would lead police to the discovery of "The Gilgo 4" and 6 more bodies whose deaths have been attributed to the Long Island Serial Killer. Host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, play excerpts of the call and offer contextual insights into the investigation.

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The Long Island-area homicide detective from Season 2 chats with Senior Producer Shannon McGarvey about what it actually takes for law enforcement to process mountains of backlogged DNA, solve cold cases, and the best way for the public to submit tips. 

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Long Island radio personality and politico, Frank MacKay, speak with Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, about the Suffolk County Police Department's attempts to impede the LISK investigation along with a host of topics involving the sordid business of Suffolk County politics. Part 2 of 2.

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Long Island radio personality and politico, Frank MacKay, speak with Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, about the Suffolk County Police Department's attempts to impede the LISK investigation along with a host of topics involving the sordid business of Suffolk County politics. Part 1 of 2.

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BONUS: LISK podcast Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, speaks with the anonymous creator of GilgoCase.com, who talks about the genesis of their site, web sleuthing, online best practices, and more. 

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Suffolk County PD won't confirm the presence of DNA evidence yet any genetic material could undoubtedly help solve the LISK case. Since the first victims were discovered on Gilgo Beach a decade ago, there have been vast advancements in the cataloguing and use of DNA. So, why has genetic sequencing not provided any definitive leads on LISK's identity? Learn from experts Cece Moore and Dr Libby Johnson who are advancing the use of DNA as evidence and where it fits into the LISK case. Hosted by Chris Mass. Part 2 of 2.

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Even though the Suffolk County Police Department identified behavioral and physical traits of LISK, why has there been virtually zero progress in finding the killer for over a decade? Despite knowing these indicators, along with gruesome information provided by medical examiners, SCPD either knowingly or unwittingly hasn't been able to advance the case. Learn what techniques from 10 years ago were being utilized and how investigative tools have shifted to the present time. Hosted by Chris Mass. Part 1 of 2.

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A combination of new techniques, tried and true methodologies and competent investigation are at the core of identifying LISK's character profile. A panel of criminologists describe what specific behavior, exhibited through what we know from the LISK case, says about the killer as a person. Or could LISK potentially be more than one person? Is the nature in which bodies were dumped off Ocean Parkway simply a coincidence? Host, Chris Mass, dives into these questions and more.

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Host Chris Mass speaks with the Oak Beach Drifter, an anonymous figure, who lived with Joe Brewer. The OBD recalls Brewer's questionable behavior and lifestyle choices along with Brewer's claim of an "Ace up his sleeve" if the situation ever called for it. Plus, Chris speaks with renowned criminologist, Dr Kim Rossmo, and forensic psychologist, Dr Jacqueline Sebire, about the power and limitations of even the most advanced case-solving methodologies and how those relate to updates in the LISK case.

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The grim discovery of bodies along Ocean Parkway then leaves investigators with the task of trying to figure out the victims identities. DNA provides the most concrete results but collecting and analyzing DNA has been and still is a time-consuming process that requires cooperation and even luck. And in the case of Suffolk County Police, common scientific sense appears to show their presumptions about at least one death are most likely false. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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While the Suffolk County Police Department (SCPD) was searching for missing sex worker, Shannan Gilbert, it was suddenly faced with the deaths of four more women - the Gilgo 4 - whose dismembered remains were discovered alongside Long Island's Ocean Parkway. Along the way the SCPD committed a series of blunders and procedural missteps, some of which are questionable, which resulted in a botched investigation. Listen as host Chris Mass speaks with people who have unique insight into where mistakes were made. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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A meticulously compiled file containing photos, maps and other records points to one person as a highly credible LISK suspect. Listen as a local law enforcement official explains which relevant details make this suspect worth investigating further and what he plans to do about it. Meanwhile others who were close to the investigation from Day ONE explain why the Suffolk County Police Department either willfully or negligently failed to conduct its search for bodies, clues and leads in a manner befitting one of the country's most well-paid police forces. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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In Season 2 of "LISK: Long Island Serial Killer - The Search for Answers", host Chris Mass peels back the layers of what is fact and what is fiction in the LISK case. In hearing from family and friends of victims, criminologists, DNA experts, law enforcement and others, listeners will have misconceptions corrected, lingering questions answered and learn what new methods are moving the case forward. New episodes available starting July 14th. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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Host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, respond to listeners questions about the LISK case. From the recent discovery of a new potential LISK victim to various theories about LISK's methodologies, they share information and insights gathered over the years. Special thanks to everyone who sent in their questions about this yet-to-be solved string of murders. (Part 2 of 2)

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Host, Chris Mass, and Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, respond to listeners questions about the LISK case. From the recent discovery of a new potential LISK victim to various theories about LISK's methodologies, they share information and insights gathered over the years. Special thanks to everyone who sent in their questions about this yet-to-be solved string of murders. (Part 1 of 2)

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Chris Mass, speaks with Jami Rice, host of the "Murderish" podcast, about the LISK victims, recent new evidence, their own theories about what happened and other updates related to the case. Inspired by the book "Lost Girls", "LISK: Long Island Serial Killer" examines the lives of the victims prior to their deaths. For more information, go to www.liskpodcast.com.

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Preview of Season 2 interviews along with other updates from "LISK: Long Island Serial Killer". Between researching new leads and breaks in the LISK Case along with conducting interviews, the Mopac Audio production team shares conversation snippets that will ultimately go into the next season. Thank you for your support and for keeping attention on this unsolved string of murders.

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Valerie Mack was named as the true identity of the LISK victim previously known as Jane Doe #6. Suffolk County police, in conjunction with the FBI, announced that through the use of DNA and genetic genealogy, they had determined Mack's identity. Join Senior Producer, Shannon McGarvey, as she lays out what is known about Valerie Mack's life and her place amongst the larger group of LISK victims.

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Suffolk County Police announced on May 22nd that they had identified the remains of Jane Doe #6 through DNA. Josh Zeman and Rachel Mills, the producing team behind "The Killing Season", speak with host, Chris Mass, about the potential of DNA technology, their work investigating LISK, theories on who LISK is and a number of other gripping topics. For more information on "LISK: Long Island Serial Killer", visit www.liskpodcast.com

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Attorney John Ray and host, Chris Mass, continue their conversation. Ray has been the attorney for Shannan Gilbert's family and shares a trove of legal and investigative information. From the LISK investigation to persons-of-interest and possible Suffolk County Police corruption, Chris and John Ray discuss a number of relevant topics in the second of two bonus episodes.

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On the 10 year anniversary of Shannan Gilbert's disappearance, attorney John Ray speaks with host, Chris Mass. Ray has been the Gilbert Family attorney for years and shares a trove of both legal and investigative information. Starting with Shannan's disappearance up through the ongoing legal battle over the release of Shannan's panicked 911 call, Chris and John Ray discuss a number of relevant topics in the first of two episodes. Hosted by Chris Mass

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Host, Chris Mass, answers listener questions along with LISK Podcast senior producer, Shannon McGarvey. Topics range from the connections between LISK victims disappearances to possible LISK conspiracy theories.

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Maureen Brainard-Barnes' sister, Missy Cann, spoke with Chris about the timeline of Maureen's disappearance, the involvement of Suffolk County Police Department, how the families helped change the perception of missing sex workers, her own grief and a number of other topics.

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The 911 call Shannan Gilbert placed on the night she disappeared was finally released to Gilbert Family attorney, John Ray, on May 14, 2020. Host, Chris Mass, spoke to the attorney the same day. John Ray details how the actual recording contradicts many assertions made by Suffolk County Police.

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LISK-related theories and personal recollections from the author of "Lost Girls, Robert Kolker. Robert shares his thoughts on how LISK dumped the "Gilgo 4" bodies where they were eventually discovered. Robert also talks about getting to know some of the victims family members, including a notable lunch they had together in Manhattan.

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Amber Costello's housemate, Dave Schaller, talks about some of the grim advice he gave Amber and her sister, Kim, about getting into escort work. He also speaks about not doing more to stop Amber on the last night she was seen alive.

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BONUS: Jaclyn Gallucci was one of the first reporters to write about the missing sex workers on Long Island and look into who they were as individuals. Jaclyn talks about why it was important to call attention to the victims, not just as nameless sex workers, but as women with lives, families and dreams. Jaclyn also talks about her own process in uncovering the facts of the case.

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BONUS: Dottie Laster, a counselor on human trafficking, shares a deeply troubling tale of coercion. Dottie also recalls speaking with Melissa Barthelemy's family and confirming that she had been forced into prostitution.

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BONUS: Excerpts from an interview with Former Chief of Detectives Dominic Varrone where he talks about his work on the Katie Beers abduction case, his methodology as well as what he hopes will come of the LISK case.

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Robert Kolker speaks with Chris about a host of topics surrounding the LISK case. From Robert's opinions on how Shannan disappeared to the current status of the investigation and a host of other insights, he offers unique perspective as someone who wrote a best-selling book that was eventually made into the Netflix movie "Lost Girls". Hosted by Chris Mass.

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Nearly a year and a half after Shannan Gilbert disappeared from Oak Beach, and with the body count climbing to 10, the search teams suddenly shifted back to the gated community, and a startling series of discoveries was made. More than ever, the victims families and the public wanted answers and a killer found. A dubious shift in Suffolk County politics though hindered the investigation. And a newly installed Suffolk County Chief of Police threw the hunt for a killer into even further disarray. Inspired by the bestselling book "Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery" from Robert Kolker. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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When 27-year-old sex worker Amber Lynn Costello took a rare top-dollar outcall from her home in Babylon, Long Island, she was never seen alive again. Just over three months later, her body was among the four victims found along Gilgo Beach. This episodes follows the life of Amber Costello, from her childhood in North Carolina to her harrowing exploits in sex work, which eventually led to her death. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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When Maureen Brainard-Barnes and Megan Waterman's bodies were found on Gilgo Beach, it seemed that friends and family were the only ones who'd been looking for them. Authorities showed little concern for these missing women, presumably because they were sex workers. Only as part of the Gilgo Four did their names gain any real recognition. Why did it take their murders to make people take notice? This episode looks at the stories of two unique women who met similarly untimely fates. Based on the best-selling book "Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery" by Robert Kolker. Hosted by Chris Mass.

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Melissa Barthelemy was the first of the "Gilgo Four" bodies found along the remote shores of Long Island. The discoveries unleashed a media firestorm and brought to light the Long Island Serial Killer case. Before the sensationalism, Melissa was a young woman with a family and friends who loved her. This episode tells the story about Melissa and the series of seemingly arbitrary events that eventually led to her murder. Inspired by the New York Times best-selling book and Netflix movie, "Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery". Hosted by Chris Mass.

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Police uncover the bodies of the "Gilgo Four" while searching for Shannan Gilbert. But who was this woman whose disappearance blew the lid off one of the most baffling and active serial killer cases of our time? Episode two explores Shannan's backstory — her upbringing, her aspirations, and the unlikely way she found herself in the New York City underworld of escort work. Inspired by the New York Times best-selling book and Netflix movie, "Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery". Hosted by Chris Mass.

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24-year-old escort Shannan Gilbert disappeared in May, 2010, from the affluent Long Island community of Oak Beach without a trace. Months later, while police were conducting a routine training exercise in the neighboring Gilgo Beach area, officials discovered the skeletal remains of a woman — and then three more. Inspired by the New York Times best-selling book and Netflix movie, "Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery". Hosted by Chris Mass.

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The LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) investigation as told through rare interviews with friends, family, members, police officers and other people affected by the murders. Starting with the disappearance of Shannan Gilbert, Suffolk County Police eventually found the remains from nine more bodies, including those of four murdered sex workers who came to be known as the Gilgo 4. Inspired by the New York Times best-selling book Lost Girls, this 6-part series tells a story rife with murder, prostitution, corruption and dysfunction. Hosted by Chris Mass. LISK: Long Island Serial Killer premieres on March 11th.

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